# An apology to Ultress and the rest of the alleged brigade

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 11, 2003, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231 "2003-06-11T23:44:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/41 "2003-06-13T01:59:58Z")

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Jeanie, I am very sorry you lost your baby. VERY sorry. I am sending prayers your way…that you do well, and heal quickly emotionally and physically from this very tragic loss.

Sometimes I am very conflicted about this medium. You know, it is a place where you can “say” your words, and then you can “proof read” them before you “say” them. For me, this is almost always a good thing…but occasionally even when I proof read, I stick my foot in my mouth. It happens when I am stressed or upset over things OTHER than this message board, and I always try to apologize…as you have done here.

Sometimes I think that when I “stick my foot in my mouth” HERE, it is actually WORSE than when I do it in “face to face” life…because HERE…I "said " it, I proofed it, and then I said it anyway. Sometimes I am so VERY not proud of myself. BUT…all I can do is try to make it right. And I DO, as you did here.

I don’t know the truth here…I read the thread, and I do think that you were in part being judgmental toward a certain group of people. But I also think that you weren’t doing it with a mean-spirited intention, and I also think your thread was intended in fun. Honey, we have ALL been THERE. Haven’t we?

So…I don’t know you, but I want you to know that I really don’t think that anyone is banding together to thrash you. Truly. People may not agree with you, they might not like you. I have never been TOLD that anyone doesn’t like you, but really…NO ONE is universally liked. It is one of the sad facts of life. I am sure that there are many people here who wish I would fade into the sunset. I accept that. You cannot EVER be universally liked.

Even Mother Theresa had her critics. REALLY!

Please don’t allow this to stop you from being YOU…learn from it, in that maybe you should think about how you want to present yourself\*, but don’t EVER not be YOU.

\*I mean that I think your thread would have been better accepted if you had worded it more in line with what you MEANT…which is always difficult, but DOABLE!

Be Well.

My Love,

Cheri

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**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/42 "2003-06-13T02:29:21Z")

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**BBJ** , sorry for your loss.

FWIW, I thought your thread was terribly funny and clearly intended in good-spirited humour. I was sorry to see it derailed.

I don’t understand the “bubble-headed bimbo” comments. I’ve been around here for some time and haven’t read anything that made me believe you were anything but a genuine and intelligent woman. Others clearly feel a need to pass judgement, which says more about them than you.

All the best.

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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/43 "2003-06-13T02:40:24Z")

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By **Scotticher** : “I am sure that there are many people here who wish I would fade into the sunset.”

But…But… I already visualize you as _living_ in the sunset, Cheri! Out West and all. I mean, how can you fade into it if you’re already there?

**BBJ** , sorry for your loss. Your original thread was funny and descriptive. You can’t please all the people all the time, even considering this easy going bunch here at the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/44 "2003-06-13T02:58:16Z")

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Well…I appreciate the poetic license here, darling, and if you look at it THAT way, I DO live in the sunset. Sort of. Well, mostly it is obscured by the rain, but since we are using PL and all, it all works out. I guess. Unless you live in Hawaii or something.

Howsomever, when we DO get a sunset, it is more awesome than most of you will ever experience. Of course, this is just MHO, and I am quite decidedly prejudiced.

Guess I will reword it. [sub]I was trying to be kind to myself[/sub]  
\*“I am sure that there are many people here, on this board, who wish I would just shut up and go away. And let the door hit me on the tush on the way out, just so I’d get bruised.”

I wouldn’t blame them, either. \*

Okay, is that better?

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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/45 "2003-06-13T03:11:22Z")

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“Okay, is that better?”

Nah, I don’t want you to go away…or shut up either. And please let’s _don’t_ let a door bruise the glorious tush.

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/46 "2003-06-13T03:35:24Z")

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Thank you darling…

But I was just pointing out to Jeanie that lots of people don’t like LOTS of people. And I am almost certainly one of them who is not liked… ( I have NO doubt that there are people who roll their eyes and say "sheesh, I HATE that woman!)

**Shrugs** It happens.

People don’t believe I am sincere. People don’t believe I am honest. People think I SAY I am supporting others with prayer…and it is just a bunch of baloney.

I don’t blame anyone for being sceptical…and it doesn’t matter anyway. I will do what I can.

Me? Well, mostly, I like everyone. But then I am sort of impaired. 😃

[sub]but I love you TOO, JCoM![/sub]

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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/47 "2003-06-13T06:04:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by lezlers \*  
> **Aries** , don’t even try to reason with the almighty **Diane**. This is _her_ board see? And everyone therefore must follow _her_ rules, lest they be idiots.

Good fucking goblins, where is the 600x600 rolling eyed emoticon when you need it?

**Lez** you only have to insult by using the standard in the book, make it look like “someone thinks this his/her place.”

Bullshit, no one here buys that crap. It’s old, is been done and frankly if you can’t come up with a better insult…go run to your mommy cuz this sandbox is too big for you. That’s an insult you would use, I am sure.

If you truly believe that statement you made in the least, I would like to see you, personally, eat money feces, the real thing. If you did, I would give you a hundred dollars (it’d be more if I could afford it, anyone willing to up the anty (sp)?) if I were to physically witness it in person so I can take pictures for all the board to see how strongly you felt about **Diane** and the fact she thinks she rules the board, I would be overjoyed.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/48 "2003-06-13T07:11:58Z")

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This has to be the biggest load of bullshit ever accumulated in one thread that I have ever seen…or, as **Redboss** said:

> [@](#):
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> This thread starts out wih a genuine apology, contains some expressed support but dribbles away into the same tired old tarts bitching at people who’ve been here less time than them.

Especially that last post by **techchick68**. For gawd’s sake Techie, it’s comments like that, that bung you seriously in the Bitch Brigade for all time. Be careful you don’t get stereotyped darls.

But, I did like your reference to ‘Money faeces’. Fer sure, I’d like to see THOSE…

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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/49 "2003-06-13T07:56:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by kambuckta \*  
> This has to be the biggest load of bullshit ever accumulated in one thread that I have ever seen…or, as **Redboss** said:
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> Especially that last post by **techchick68**. For gawd’s sake Techie, it’s comments like that, that bung you seriously in the Bitch Brigade for all time. Be careful you don’t get stereotyped darls.
> 
> But, I did like your reference to ‘Money faeces’. Fer sure, I’d like to see THOSE…

The problem you apparently experience is that my post was not towards the OP but for someone else in the thread entirely. You became lost and apparently didn’t understand that.

I didn’t direct that at the OP I directed it at **lezlers** who seems to like to step in where he/she is ill imformed. If you didn’t get that, I recommend a course in reading comprehension.

Oh as far as the “Bitch Brigade” is concerned? I have been a member for as long as I can remember. It doesn’t phase me a bit. This is small potatoes to what I have placed myself into or experienced here. No problems.

BTW, sweetie I have seen worse in Pit threads, this is a cake walk. Trust me.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/50 "2003-06-13T08:08:06Z")

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Ummm, errr, I think it’s your comprehension skills that are sadly lacking **techchick68**. Nowhere did I state (or even insinuate) that you had made those comments towards **BBJ**. What I _was_ remarking on was the bitchiness that had been expressed in this thread by others, and ESPECIALLY (note: the ‘especially’) the derision you heaped upon **lezlers** for daring to voice a dissenting opinion.

Now, are we clear hon? I can spell it out in simpler words if it makes it easier for you…😃

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/51 "2003-06-13T12:13:26Z")

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Two comments:

1. BBJ, please try returning. Alternately, try another similar Board to cool off on for a while, like Fathom or mine.

2. 

> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Scotticher \*  
> \*\*Thank you darling…
> 
> But I was just pointing out to Jeanie that lots of people don’t like LOTS of people. And I am almost certainly one of them who is not liked… ( I have NO doubt that there are people who roll their eyes and say "sheesh, I HATE that woman!)
> 
> **Shrugs** It happens.
> 
> People don’t believe I am sincere. People don’t believe I am honest. People think I SAY I am supporting others with prayer…and it is just a bunch of baloney.\*\*

I wish you would tell me who is picking on you. They’ve been doing it for a while, and you have never told your friends who is making you so unhappy. You have a _lot_ of very good friends that can make online life very miserable for some people who pick on you unfairly or out of malice and spite. Very, very miserable.

Una

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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/52 "2003-06-13T13:51:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by techchick68 \*  
> \*\*\<snip\>I would like to see you, personally, eat money feces, the real thing. If you did, I would give you a hundred dollars \</snip\> \*\*

Yep. Money in, money feces out. It’s biology, Baby!😃

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/53 "2003-06-13T14:29:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by techchick68 \*  
> \*\*Good fucking goblins, where is the 600x600 rolling eyed emoticon when you need it?
> 
> **Lez** you only have to insult by using the standard in the book, make it look like “someone thinks this his/her place.”
> 
> Bullshit, no one here buys that crap. It’s old, is been done and frankly if you can’t come up with a better insult…go run to your mommy cuz this sandbox is too big for you. That’s an insult you would use, I am sure.
> 
> If you truly believe that statement you made in the least, I would like to see you, personally, eat money feces, the real thing. If you did, I would give you a hundred dollars (it’d be more if I could afford it, anyone willing to up the anty (sp)?) if I were to physically witness it in person so I can take pictures for all the board to see how strongly you felt about **Diane** and the fact she thinks she rules the board, I would be overjoyed. \*\*

_Sigh_

You know what **tech**? You’re really starting to irritate me. You’re beginning to act WORSE than **Diane**. I thought we had reached an agreement on the other thread to leave well enough alone. You know, that thread where you told me to “keep my opinions to myself?” But then immediately followed up with “but if I don’t agree with what you say I’m going to voice my opinion?”

Sounds like a mighty big sense of entitlement to me.

Also your little threat about “don’t insult **Diane** if you don’t want to deal with the conseuquences.”

What are you? Some kind of SDMB mafia? Or do you just like to pretend you are? For the love of god, get OVER your damn self already! And how am I ill informed? I’ve read the same threads you have. How does that make me any _less_ informed than you?

I just don’t understand your overwhelming need to follow me into different threads with the “oh oh! Don’t insult THAT person! Oh, wait! You can’t give your opinion HERE!”

With all due respect, please find someone else to babysit.

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**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/54 "2003-06-13T15:27:50Z")

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First off, **BBJ**. I am really sorry to hear of your troubles. I hope things get better for you soon.

I have been following this soap opera of sorts and have generally made out the gist of the situation. That is, until I get too this:

> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by techchick68 \*  
> \*\*  
> If you truly believe that statement you made in the least, I would like to see you, personally, eat money feces, the real thing. If you did, I would give you a hundred dollars (it’d be more if I could afford it, anyone willing to up the anty (sp)?) if I were to physically witness it in person so I can take pictures for all the board to see how strongly you felt about **Diane** and the fact she thinks she rules the board, I would be overjoyed. \*\*

I genuinely don’t understand this.  
It doesn’t even make sense. I am assuming it’s supposed to be monkey feces, but why on earth anyone would have to eat shit to stand by a belief does not compute. I gather there’s an insult in there, somewhere, but overall, this makes absolutely no sense. Could someone with better “reading comprehnesion” skills explain this?

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**Author:** ![DeskMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DeskMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeskMonkey)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/55 "2003-06-13T15:38:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bad News Baboon \*  
> \*\*First off, **BBJ**. I am really sorry to hear of your troubles. I hope things get better for you soon.
> 
> I have been following this soap opera of sorts and have generally made out the gist of the situation. That is, until I get too this:
> 
> I genuinely don’t understand this.  
> It doesn’t even make sense. I am assuming it’s supposed to be monkey feces, but why on earth anyone would have to eat shit to stand by a belief does not compute. I gather there’s an insult in there, somewhere, but overall, this makes absolutely no sense. Could someone with better “reading comprehnesion” skills explain this? \*\*

I think it all depends on the monkey.

Don’t look at ME!

_runs away on knuckles_ eeeep eeeeeeeeep eeeeeeeeeeep!

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/56 "2003-06-13T15:45:10Z")

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MONKEY FECES! Now that makes more sense. I was wondering about money feces for awhile, and decided to not even respond due to the idioticness of the statement.

I envision **tech** as one of those little yappy dogs circling the dobermans (that would be **diane** and **ultress** ) trying to be badass by association or something.

:rolleyes:

Why don’t you quit while your ahead (if you even think you’re ahead) **tech**? You’re really starting to make yourself look like an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/57 "2003-06-13T15:54:06Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by lezlers \*  
> \*\*MONKEY FECES! Now that makes more sense. \*\*

well kinda.  
But I still don’t get it.

In my head, a sample conversation goes like this:

me: I really, really hate cheese doodle. I think they are the devil’s own handiwork.

person: oh yeah, well if you feel that strogly about it, I will pay you $100.00 to eat monkey shit to prove how much you hate them.

Where am I going wrong in this analogy?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/58 "2003-06-13T16:00:07Z")

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> [@](#):
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> But I was just pointing out to Jeanie that lots of people don’t like LOTS of people. And I am almost certainly one of them who is not liked… ( I have NO doubt that there are people who roll their eyes and say "sheesh, I HATE that woman!)

Oh god, I just HATE that **Scotticher** , she’s sooo annoying!!!

😉

Just kidding, of course, you know I love ya to pieces, **Scotti**.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/59 "2003-06-13T16:04:55Z")

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Well, no it doesn’t REALLY make that much more sense, but since the term “monkey feces” is commonly used around here as an insult, I’m guessing she just threw it out there in a mad attempt at protecting her own personal shining star, D.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/60 "2003-06-13T16:35:38Z")

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You know, this thread started out as a good idea. **BottledBlondJeanie** flew off the handle, explained she was under stress, apologized: fine. Class act by **BBJ** , we should see more like it, I hope she recovers from her troubles. Apology was gracefully accepted by people involved … so why are we now talking about monkey feces? What’s the point?

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