# An apology to Ultress and the rest of the alleged brigade **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 11, 2003, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231 "2003-06-11T23:44:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/81 "2003-06-14T06:15:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diane \* > \*\*Cheri, I have met you in person and I will vouch that you are indeed just as sweet in person as you are online. > > \*\* Well, I am not claiming to be sweet, darling, but the endorsement of me being who I actually AM is very welcome. Thank you! Happy, here you go. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=189591](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=189591) ---
**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/82 "2003-06-14T06:16:47Z")
Heh…but I have BAD TIMING, honey! ---
**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/83 "2003-06-14T06:18:39Z")
PS…who is Tyrone Wheatley? ---
**Author:** ![d\_redguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@d\_redguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d_redguy)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/84 "2003-06-14T06:20:01Z")
**BBJ** - I am sorry for your loss. I missed all the other stuff, which is fine. I imagine it might not reflect a part of you that you are most proud of. I can imagine why that part of you might have come out though. So no monkey feces from this guy. Just hugs. {{{BBJ}}} ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/85 "2003-06-14T06:20:03Z")
Oh, I dunno’ about that. It’s gettin’ late on a Friday night. There’s nobody else I’d rather hang out with. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/86 "2003-06-14T06:22:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scotticher \* > \*\*PS…who is Tyrone Wheatley? \*\* He used to play football for U. of Michigan. I don’t follow pro football, so I don’t know where he is now. He was pretty good at UM. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/87 "2003-06-14T06:29:26Z")
Thanks for the link Scotti and JCoM. And I believe Tyrone plays for Oakland now. ---
**Author:** ![hyperjes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@hyperjes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hyperjes)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/88 "2003-06-14T08:06:38Z")
**BBJ** , I’m very sorry that you lost your baby. Its terrible when that happens, no matter how early. Big hugs from me. As far as the above linked thread goes, I don’t see why some folks made such a big deal out of it. Sure, it wasn’t exactly genteel to use terms like “white trash,” but it isn’t like no one has heard the words before. It was also a fairly accurate way to describe what you were seeing, if only insofar as to conjure up a mental image. Not that it’s a nice thing to say, mind you. I don’t want anyone to think I’m endorsing nasty stereotypes. They are not nice. Your use of them, in that context, wasn’t anything to rip you apart over, though. That’s just as mean. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/89 "2003-06-14T18:11:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Your use of them, in that context, wasn’t anything to rip you apart over, though. I fail to see how anyone “ripped her apart”. Just a few scarcastic slaps on the wrist. ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/90 "2003-06-14T22:33:14Z")
**Esprix** > [@](#): > > …the way you keep harping on Diane and techchick, you’re starting to sound like BBJ and why she posted this apology thread in the first place. I’m curious, if Diane and techchick are rude and condescending towards **lezlers** , how is she harping by responding in kind? I mean, really, monkey feces? **Diane** > [@](#): > > Just a few scarcastic slaps on the wrist. I disagree-it got outright mean fast. You’ve mastered the quick retort and sarcastic put down, Diane and you can be really funny, but you just don’t know when to quit sometimes. You play to the cheap seats. **BBJ** , if you’re still following this, I’d like to add my condolences. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2003, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/91 "2003-06-15T00:46:53Z")
Thanks **jlzania** ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2003, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/92 "2003-06-15T13:49:08Z")
No worries, **lezlers** , I just calls 'em as I sees 'em. (Now shush or they’ll figure out that we’re really part of the nefarious low post clique) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2003, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/93 "2003-06-15T20:49:15Z")
The two of you forgot the high five. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2003, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/94 "2003-06-15T23:57:38Z")
Yeah, like you and **Ultress** with your little “football field” analogy after getting on **Aries** about her “late” response. You might want to take a quick peak at your own behavior before making snide remarks about others. ---
**Author:** ![Wabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wabbit)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/95 "2003-06-16T00:54:17Z")
Heh, all I have to say is that the original post (about the concert) was freakin hilarious. Just what I would expect at a Journey concert… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/96 "2003-06-16T13:15:48Z")
\*\* Diane\*\* > [@](#): > > The two of you forgot the high five. Shows how much you know- high fives are so passé. The low post clique has a secret handshake that we use instead. All kidding aside, **Diane** , I’m curious. Do you always insist on having the last word? Do you ever manage to accept an apology graciously? I find it rather interesting that you were apparently incapable of simply saying: “Gee, BBJ-awfully sorry to hear about your loss. I can understand how that might affect your better judgment.” Nope, instead you favored her with yet another lecture on appropriate behavior on the SDMB: **Diane:** > [@](#): > > … It is just assholish and you are going to get called on it by those who think so. If you don’t mind the backlash (and it certainly appears that you DO mind), think twice about what you are saying. If you want to be known as the bubbleheaded bigotted bimbo, that is okay too, just don’t act so shocked when you are treated as such. When **Aries28** pointed out that this hardly constituted the gracious cceptance of her apology, you were downright snarky with your time line quip. You totally failed to acknowledge the numerous other posters that called you on it either. You’re very quick to dismiss or deflect criticism with a trite remark. What gives? ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/97 "2003-06-16T13:17:29Z")
good fucking lord. apparently none of you can let this fucker die. more’s the pity. ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/98 "2003-06-16T13:52:16Z")
**wring** , I’m curious as to your reasoning. Why is it **now** appropriate to, as you say > [@](#): > > …this fucker die. I’m being sincere when I ask that. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/99 "2003-06-16T14:00:23Z")
at least 3 days ago, folks were posting stuff suggesting that y’all (and that means all of those sniping back and forth) drop it, move on, etc. and here it is again, the cockroach that wouldn’t die. referencing **Steve Wrights’** post from 6/13 > [@](#): > > You know, this thread started out as a good idea. BottledBlondJeanie flew off the handle, explained she was under stress, apologized: fine. Class act by BBJ, we should see more like it, I hope she recovers from her troubles. Apology was gracefully accepted by people involved … so why are we now talking about monkey feces? What’s the point? ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/100 "2003-06-16T14:19:27Z")
Thank you for your prompt reply, **wring**. Although I’m willing to concede that I may be flogging a dead horse here, a number of posters in this thread, myself included do not agree that the: > [@](#): > > …Apology was gracefully accepted by people involved That’s the main point of contention. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231.md?page=6)