# An Appropriate Thread For Nothing But Net **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 13, 2001, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355 "2001-07-13T10:08:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/1 "2001-07-13T10:08:56Z")
**Euty** said can the hijacks, so let’s do just that and devote a thread just to you and your unbridled jerkiness. In the [“So am I being a friend or an asshole here?”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=77555) thread here in The Pit, **red\_dragon60** lamented about an underage female friend of his who was drinking and getting involved in risky situations. Out of the blue, your response was: > [@](#): > > I ain’t stalking 14 year olds my man. Where you got this notion he was stalking her, no one seems to know. I replied: > [@](#): > > Stalking her? Where the fuck did that come from? > > Jeez, sounds like there’s more than one person in this thread who should consider growing up. Your witty retort? > [@](#): > > **Chas, meet Esprix. Esprix, Nothing. Nothing, meet Red…** > > Out of this group, who is going to suggest sucking cocks _first_? WTF? So several people remarked how utterly inappropriate and homophobic that comment was. Your replies? Hardly stellar: > [@](#): > > **What are you horrified by Shayna?** > > The simple idea of men sucking each other, or the actual _reality_ of it?.. > > **Esprix, I’m not the homophobe here.** > > In fact I have many gay friends. > > Perhaps you should re-evaluate your friendships on this board… > > When you are invited into the melee we will acknowledge you… > > **[White Lightning], give me one instance where…** > > I’ve been any more of a jerk than anyone around here has been, and I will stand down! > > So, just do it asshole! It’s going to be a hard row to find, I guarantee. No need - **TubaDiva** called you on your jerkiness before **White** finished his post detailing the quantum assholisness you displayed just in that thread alone: > [@](#): > > **FORMAL WARNING TO "NOTHING BUT NET."** > > If all you’re doing is coming here to pick fights with people on this board, that’s not going to make you any friends. > > I don’t want to see any more of this bad attitude from you – in this thread or anywhere else. > > If I do, you will no longer have posting privileges here. > > You do not want to come fight with me, I promise you. So shape up. This is your first and last warning. Several people also asked you to clarify your “sucking cocks” comment, since you feigned innocence. Sadly, that explanation has not been forthcoming in that thread. So one would think that would have been the end of it. Sadly, t’wasn’t. In the [“Witness child abuse in almost real time”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=77880) thread (which didn’t exactly get glowing reviews), **Clark K** hijacked the thread by calling you an idiot for such an inane and ill-conceived thread. I agreed with him about your general idiocy, reminding you that we were still waiting for you in the first thread. (Should I have continued the hijack? **Euty** says no, so for that I’ll apologize.) Your reply? > [@](#): > > **Exprix, I can never answer that…** > > unless I know what is the question? > > So what is the question? I referenced you to the thread to which I included a link in my first post. Then - an answer! Or at least, a dodge: > [@](#): > > **Exprix, how do you I wasn’t talking about ME?** > > Hmmmm? Oh, the wit! The reparte! The stupidity! So that’s twice you misspelled my screen name, so I called you on it. But, uh-oh - I also called you a fuckface! Yes, imagine that - calling someone a fuckface for misspelling their screen name… _in the Pit!_ Oh, the horror. Truly, I made the baby Jesus cry, for no one has _ever_ called _anyone_ such a dirty name before in the Pit. (Oh, wait - this is where I put this: :rolleyes: ) But I also again attempted to reference you back to the original thread, where the “discussion” (as it was) should more properly be finished. But you’re not out of witty _bon mots_ yet, no sirree! We were treated to this gem: > [@](#): > > **OK, I’ve learned to spell your name, Esprix,** > > And your face has been fucked a lot more times than mine… > > Remember that ‘Don’t be a Jerk, stuff’, fuckface… The Bard himself defers to your gentle retort, sir! And the last words of a dying Pitizen? > [@](#): > > **C’mon Tuba, ban Esprix’s motherfucking ass** > > You want to prove your impartiality, and ban a jerk when he is a jerk? Prove something to me and do it! Just do it. Yes, that’s right - allay the blatant unfairness of the Evil Moderator Cabal. They are, after all, all conspiring against you. It would, of course, have _nothing_ to do with you being an out-and-out JERK to me - not once, but twice - with completely inappropriate, offensive and, well, jerky comments. {sigh} So **Euty** stepped in and told me to take it to an appropriate thread. I hope this is appropriate enough. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/2 "2001-07-13T10:15:25Z")
Certainly, I don’t recall one post yet from **Nothing But Rage** that _hasn’t_ been picking a fight with someone. Can anyone point me to _one_ useful contribution he’s made? Score! Game Over! pan ---
**Author:** ![Nothing\_But\_Net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e47c2d/32.png) [@Nothing\_But\_Net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nothing_But_Net)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/3 "2001-07-13T10:35:36Z")
Oh, God, don’t you have anything better to do? Sorry about the sucking cocks thing, I will admit that was out of line, can you forgive me? If you will treat me with decency I will do the same for you, OK? ---
**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/4 "2001-07-13T10:47:31Z")
I’ve had the thought before that some people make posts by repeatedly throwing a cat onto the keyboard, and (as an optional step) running the results through a spellchecker. I’m not completely sure why that thought rises up again now. It seems connected with the letters d, n, f, and a couple t’s, but it’s all very murky. I think I’ll sleep on it and see what resolves. ---
**Author:** ![darian00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@darian00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/darian00)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/5 "2001-07-13T11:00:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > **[snip]Truly, I made the baby Jesus cry [snip]…** Esprix, that has GOT to be just 'bout the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/6 "2001-07-13T11:18:13Z")
Good point kabbes, but I was expecting I AM THE LLOOOOOOOOVVVEEEEERRRROOOOOOCCCKKKK!!! ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/7 "2001-07-13T12:53:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kabbes \* > Certainly, I don’t recall one post yet from Nothing But Rage that _hasn’t_ been picking a fight with someone. Can anyone point me to _one_ useful contribution he’s made? > > **Score!** > > pan (bolding mine) My thought exactly, pan. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/8 "2001-07-13T13:16:08Z")
Ban ESPRIX? Um…is this guy for real? Is this a fucking joke? What a moron! ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/9 "2001-07-13T13:30:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by **kabbes** \* > Certainly, I don’t recall one post yet from **Nothing But Rage** that _hasn’t_ been picking a fight with someone. Can anyone point me to _one_ useful contribution he’s made? No. No one can. And believe me, when I say that, I say it conclusively. I’ve read every single one of his posts. I did it last night in response to his challenge to me to find an example of his ‘jerkiness,’ but the boards went screwy as I was finishing up so I saved it to a .txt file and went to sleep. Seems Esprix’s done what was necessary at this point. He’s asking for clemency now, though. He’s clearly in over his head at this point, the pileon can only get worse, and you know there’s really nothing he can say to make anything better. Can he be given a fresh start? **Nothing But Net** , I’d advise you to start making nice, and make it good. A more thorough apology would help as well. Trust me, you won’t last long around here with all these posters AND **TubaDiva** already pissed at you. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/10 "2001-07-13T13:52:58Z")
I just hate it when a good pit rant is thrown off course by the target coming in and acting semi-reasonable. At least we know trolls can’t keep it up. (the nice guy routine:)) ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/11 "2001-07-13T16:17:17Z")
> [@](#): > > Oh, God, don’t you have anything better to do? Oh, God, don’t _ **you** _? ::ahem:: “Pot? Kettle? Whatever. :rolleyes:” (It needed to be said.) ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/12 "2001-07-13T18:44:44Z")
Lo, the babe speaks. And it’s an apology… of sorts. Now, really, let’s read this again: > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Nothing But Net** _ > > **Oh, God, don’t you have anything better to do?** > > Sorry about the sucking cocks thing, I will admit that was out of line, can you forgive me? Hmmm. I dunno about you, but apologies that start off with, “Don’t you have anything better to do,” come off just a tad, oh, I don’t know… _insincere_, n’est-ce pas? And that was a pretty lame apology in and of itself. Try again, Slappy, and this time - _with feeling_. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > If you will treat me with decency I will do the same for you, OK? Well, if you’d actually read my detailed post, it was _you_ who treated _me_ with ill-respect in the first (and second) place. If you’d have treated _me_ with respect, perhaps you’d have gotten the same from me, eh? Esprix ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/13 "2001-07-13T23:05:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Nothing But Net \* > If you will treat me with decency I will do the same for you, OK? I’m sorry, but taking into consideration some of your previous posts, I don’t think you _deserve_ to be treated with decency. You seem to think it’s funny to act like an insolent asshole, pretending that it’s everyone else who’s being stupid. While we were talking about age in this thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=77555](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=77555) curiosity has gotten the best of me, how old, pray tell, are you? ---
**Author:** ![Nothing\_But\_Net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e47c2d/32.png) [@Nothing\_But\_Net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nothing_But_Net)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2001, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/14 "2001-07-14T22:55:51Z")
First of all, when I clicked up this thread, I didn’t expect to see a novella (hence the observation: don’t you have anything better to do?), which I felt was a masterful piece of editing, not to mention self-serving. You left out a number of intervening comments. Considering it was an attempt to make yourself look good at my expense, you probably succeeded. Personally, I would have just posted links to the threads in question, with minor explanation, and let everyone make up their own mind. Secondly, everything I have posted was never personal, it was just business. If you have seen the _Godfather_ movies you will understand what I mean by this. Third, although **TubaDiva** warned me (fairly, I admit) in this thread to be more civil, I thought it presumptuous of you to invoke her name in requesting a reponse from me. She didn’t request an explanation. I could have just as well said: **God** and I are awaiting your explanation, Esprix. BTW, **Tuba** and I have exchanged a couple of e-mails regarding the situation and she is OK with me for now. There, I have fulfilled the obligations of creating a list. So let’s get on to the nitty-gritty: In the [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=77555) that started all this, I only offered a potential theory as to what was going on. That could only be confirmed by **Red** or not himself. Mind you, this was before I knew the ages of the parties involved. I certainly don’t think a fourteen year old should be getting drunk and naked with adults, or anyone for that matter. But then **jester** singles me out with a hearty “Fuck Off”. No explanation, no nothing. The only thing I could think of he objected to was that my reply wasn’t ugly enough to be pit material. Believe me, I have seen much worse here. Aside to **jester** : if you tell someone to FO at least provide a reason for your disagreement. From thereon I saw that this was only going to progress into a bitch thread, and unfortunately it only got worse. I will admit I was being jerky here (and so far, the only one to admit so), but there was enough of it coming around from all sides. After **Tuba’s** warning I decided there was no more reason to even be involved. It wasn’t worth it. Then a couple of days later, I started the ‘child abuse’ thread. This is an issue I am passionate about. My OP was vague, but I was in a rush because I wanted to get the word out to as many people who still had an opportunuity to _see the program_. Hey, you could easily discern what I was talking about from the OP. You either saw the show, or you didn’t or couldn’t. I tried to provide a link ASAP, but I was referring to a TV show, not a website, and you knew what I was upset about, or you didn’t. It’s just like when I choose not to bother with Dungeons & Dragons threads or those about movies I haven’t seen, I have nothing to offer, don’t really care, so why bother? But you elected to carry on your vendetta in what I consider a totally serious situation. The thread was not ‘poorly recieved’ as you said, there were a lot of valid responses. **Euty** called this to your attention, and you opened this thread. So here we are. I’ve apologized. The level of jerkiness is not inversely proportional to your post count. I have been a jerk, and so have you, and probably everyone else on these boards at some time or another. If you didn’t appreciate my previous apology, so be it. But that’s all you going to get. If you want to follow me around the boards and harrass me, go ahead. I don’t care if you are my friend or not. But just get over it, will you? Nothing But Net ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2001, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/15 "2001-07-14T23:02:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Nothing But Net \* > \*\*Secondly, everything I have posted was never personal, it was just business. If you have seen the _Godfather_ movies you will understand what I mean by this. > \*\* I’ve gotta disagree with you here. I’ve seen the first two Godfather movies repeatedly, and I haven’t the faintest idea what you mean by this. (I mean, I catch the reference, but I don’t see the connection at all.) Anyway, NBN, I’ve read the threads in question. My unsolicited advice is to ignore all this, and just move on. I thought you were sort of jerky in those threads, but you’ve apologized. If you’re nice from now on, almost no one will remember this in a few weeks. If you’re not, well, then the problem will solve itself… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2001, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/16 "2001-07-15T00:46:03Z")
**Giraffe** : That comment puzzled me, too. My immediate reaction was that **NBN** wanted to catch **Esprix** at a toll booth and machine-gun him in slow motion, but that seemed unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Nothing\_But\_Net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e47c2d/32.png) [@Nothing\_But\_Net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nothing_But_Net)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2001, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/17 "2001-07-15T01:14:33Z")
don’t go on a personal level, but an ISSUE level. So far, it has been difficult to distiguish between them. You are all welcome to disagree on the issue level, in fact I haven’t really been able to tell the difference. And I still can’t do so, since I have been flamed on a personal level here far too much. Actually, so far I’ve enjoyed it, keep it coming. NBN ---
**Author:** ![Mercutio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Mercutio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mercutio)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2001, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/18 "2001-07-15T01:23:55Z")
**Esprix** , have you been told how much you rock today? Because, you do. ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2001, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/19 "2001-07-15T01:33:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Nothing But Net \* > \*\*don’t go on a personal level, but an ISSUE level. > > So far, it has been difficult to distiguish between them. > \*\* Ok, here’s the issue level – you disagree with someone’s comments about gun control, so you show where the logic is flawed and how they are being misled. Here’s a personal level – you disagree with someone’s comments about gun control, so you call them names and exclaim how they enjoy sex with various barnyard animals. In the first thread linked in the OP, the ISSUE had nothing to do with **Esprix** being gay, yet you brought up the question of who would talk about sucking cocks first. That’s getting personal when it isn’t part of the issue. Clear now? ---
**Author:** ![Nothing\_But\_Net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e47c2d/32.png) [@Nothing\_But\_Net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nothing_But_Net)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2001, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355/20 "2001-07-15T01:40:30Z")
An offhand remark made in the heat of battle defines me as an asshole forever, but a sincere apology makes no difference. You guys are fucked up! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-appropriate-thread-for-nothing-but-net/72355.md?page=2)