# An End to Crime **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 19, 2002, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824 "2002-12-19T16:57:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824/41 "2002-12-20T04:50:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BZ00000 \* > \*\*This attitude right here is the problem. Remember this the next time you see the news and a child has been murdered STOP and think about things and see if you feel the same. > > And actually, you will have to toleratere a lot of crime. \*\* Let me get this straight, your saying that not using money will prevent murder. Uh huh :rolleyes: . As **Bryan Ekers** said there is not such thing as irremovable. People will find a way to get them out. All this monitering equipment and cash terminals your talking about, do you have any idea how much that would cost? You would need terminals everywhere. In every shop in the U.S. They would all need to be hooked up to a giant server. What if the server goes down? You can’t buy food? I think you were let back a little too soon **BZ00000**. ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824/42 "2002-12-20T05:19:43Z")
And \*\* BZ00000\*\* what about hackers? From your post it seems that you are living in a fantasy world where computers can a) monitor everyones actions b) sort billions of records\* and spot criminals and c) computers cannot be taken over by thieves. I will just tackle point C. Everything can be hacked. The governments computers are not secure. This is a well known fact. (If you don’t believe me just go to [www.cert.org](http://www.cert.org). ) So your solution to crime won’t work. All it would do is give the government the right to watch you masterbate or pick your nose whilr the thieves would learn to hack. BTW, if you have nothing to hide \*\* BZ00000\*\*, how many times a week do you masterbate? Would it be ok with you if the government broadcast your masterbation to the whole world? You have nothing to hide right? Slee ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824/43 "2002-12-20T05:24:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BZ00000 \* > \*\*This attitude right here is the problem. Remember this the next time you see the news and a child has been murdered STOP and think about things and see if you feel the same. > > And actually, you will have to toleratere a lot of crime. \*\* Hey, I’ll happily tolerate 1000 murdered children a day before I let anyone install a tracking device in my body against my will. Heck, make it 5000. But 20,000 is my limit. Well, maybe 50,000. Certainly no more than a million. ---
**Author:** ![coffeecat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coffeecat/32/3405_2.png) [@coffeecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffeecat)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824/44 "2002-12-20T12:04:52Z")
I have a gram scale to weigh my pet parrot and full-spectrum lights so he’ll feel like he’s in the tropics. It’s only a matter of time before the police’s shopping monitors find out, and they break down my door on suspicion of growing pot. I really can’t take the OP seriously, but \ may my child be someone who would die fighting such a tyranny.\ ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824/45 "2002-12-20T15:04:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \* > \*\*Hey, I’ll happily tolerate 1000 murdered children a day before I let anyone install a tracking device in my body against my will. > > Heck, make it 5000. > > But 20,000 is my limit. > > Well, maybe 50,000. > > Certainly no more than a million. \*\* Plus millions of cute widdle puppies. Sua And baby seals. Lots of baby seals. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824/46 "2002-12-20T15:51:33Z")
But not kittens, though. No way. ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824/47 "2002-12-20T19:59:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \* > \*\*But not kittens, though. > No way. \*\* :mad: I am sick and tired of you and the P.K.\* Police trying to decide which cute mammals can be slaughtered in defense of civil liberties. Your attitudes and braying pro-kitten rhetoric makes any rational and cordial debate on the merits of cute-mammal slaughtering impossible. I, for one, am sick of it. :mad: Sua Politically Kittenish ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824/48 "2002-12-21T02:53:55Z")
Awww, somebody needs a hug. ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824/49 "2002-12-21T17:46:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \* > \*\*Awww, somebody needs a hug. \*\* I’d take a hug from you, but first you gotta put down the damn cat! 😛 Sua ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824/50 "2002-12-21T22:54:37Z")
NEVER! I’ll take this cat to my grave! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824/51 "2002-12-21T23:00:34Z")
Or, alternately: NEVER! You can take my cat when you pry it from my cold, dead, shedded-fur-covered fingers! ---
**Author:** ![sperfur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9adbd/32.png) [@sperfur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sperfur)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824/52 "2002-12-22T14:27:07Z")
Ah, but do you not realize that once we are all implanted and monitored, the cats will be taking over the world? Can you not see that it is the cats that are behind the drive for implantation? Are you people blind? I’d better get offline before my cats see what I’m posting- ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824/53 "2002-12-22T17:27:25Z")
I always liked rabbits. Cats scratch, dogs smell but rabbits just bound around and sniff things. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-end-to-crime/143824.md?page=2)