# An Ethical Question...Tomatoes at the Supermarket

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ethical-question-tomatoes-at-the-supermarket/44946>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 11, 2000, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ethical-question-tomatoes-at-the-supermarket/44946 "2000-12-11T00:02:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ethical-question-tomatoes-at-the-supermarket/44946/21 "2000-12-13T15:23:50Z")

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OK, typo freaks- that’s “bussels”, not bussels. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Necros](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/necros/32/11086_2.png) [@Necros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Necros)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ethical-question-tomatoes-at-the-supermarket/44946/22 "2000-12-13T19:17:16Z")

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Thanks for clearing that up, **Zette**. 😕

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**Author:** ![Running\_with\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Running\_with\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Running_with_Scissors)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ethical-question-tomatoes-at-the-supermarket/44946/23 "2000-12-13T19:17:19Z")

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> OK, typo freaks- that’s “bussels”, not bussels.

Actually, it’s spelled **bussels** … 🙂

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> _Green Bean wrote:_  
> (and these grape tomatoes were on the small side…)

Actually, that may explain the discrepancy; small tomatoes will pack closer together and have less air between them. So possibly the packaging mechanism (or humanoid) “knows” that a pint of these tomatoes weighs a certain amount, but since these are smaller than normal…well, you can figure out the rest…

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ethical-question-tomatoes-at-the-supermarket/44946/24 "2000-12-13T19:31:04Z")

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Count me as one who has always been a litle confused by the old “a pint’s a pound the world around” bit.

If they are being sold by weight, as **Flashpoint** posits (BTW - a grand welcome to ye, madame) why would the sign say the price per pint?  
And **zette** , as you pass the seafood department, could you pick me up a bussel of mussels?

In the spirit of “the customer is always right,” I suggest the only responsible solution is to put one container in your cart, and another down your shorts.

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**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2000, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ethical-question-tomatoes-at-the-supermarket/44946/25 "2000-12-16T16:19:47Z")

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Damnit!!

bush·el1 (bshl)  
n. Abbr. bsh., bu., bu  
A unit of volume or capacity in the U.S. Customary System, used in dry measure and equal to 4 pecks, 2,150.42 cubic inches, or 35.24 liters.  
A unit of volume or capacity in the British Imperial System, used in dry and liquid measure and equal to 2,219.36 cubic inches or 36.37 liters. See Table at measurement.  
A container with the capacity of a bushel.  
Informal. A large amount; a great deal.

Sometimes my brain just hurts.

Zette

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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2000, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ethical-question-tomatoes-at-the-supermarket/44946/26 "2000-12-16T17:16:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by frogstein \*
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> > _Green Bean wrote:_  
> > (and these grape tomatoes were on the small side…)
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> Actually, that may explain the discrepancy; small tomatoes will pack closer together and have less air between them.

Woe…Got to be a little careful here. If you consider the packing of a bunch of identically-sized and shaped things and assume they are not squishable, then in fact the packing fraction is **independent** of their size. While the air gaps are smaller for the smaller objects, there are a larger number of these air gaps.

Now, you may be right though once one relaxes the “identically-sized” and “not squishable” assumptions. I.e., if the small objects have a broader (fractional) size distribution or if they are more squishable (again in a fractional sense relative to their size), then one might indeed find the smaller objects pack to a high volume fraction than the large one. But, I just want to make the point that it is by no means completely obvious if, and by how much, the packing fraction will increase with decreasing size of the tomatoes.

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