A hole is not nothing. It’s a hole. There may be nothing in the hole, but the hole itself is a thing.
As you wander through this life
No matter what your goal
Keep your mind upon the bagel
And not upon the hole
May The Buddha smile upon you.
There is a very rigorously defined “empty set” in set theory, and it has some very specific properties.
Using loose, poetic language to call “nothing” a thing is just silly. The terms aren’t well-defined. It’s like pretending that “No one” is a person.
No one is faster than the fastest racer; no one is stronger than the strongest hero. No one is able to understand this kind of hokey conundrum. Quite a guy, that no-one.
What he said. It’s pointless word games; nothing that actually means anything. Which is funny, because when I say “nothing” in that context, you know what I’m talking about. You could rewrite that sentence to maintain the same meaning without the use of the word “nothing”. These terms only make any sense in specific contexts and with specific usages, and pulling them out of those usages for a philosophical discussion is like redefining “god” as “the universe” and then proving that “god” exists and acting as though one had accomplished anything.
the “nothing” is the hole in the bagel, obviously
“You can’t have everything. Where would you put it?” - George Carlin