# An extremely detailed map of the 2016 election

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 27, 2018, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656 "2018-07-27T03:14:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/21 "2018-07-27T13:21:29Z")

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Trump 68%, Clinton 27%, which was a big gain for the GOP, as Romney only got 55%. Which was really the story of the election, I guess. White midwesterners, outside of the urban areas and fancier suburbs, flocking to Trump.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/22 "2018-07-27T13:39:06Z")

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I’m in a fairly white town that is Republican mostly but NJ Republican, (read moderate). The education level is very high. Trump won with 56% but I’ve seen Republicans take 75% so it was not a big win for Trump.

Interesting you can trace the Route 95 Corridor from Boston to DC so clearly in Blue with so much Red around it. It really did end up an Urban vs Rural election didn’t it.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/23 "2018-07-27T13:48:57Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> That map takes forever to load for me.
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> As an aside, does anyone have a text or spreadsheet file of county-level results across the country? I’ve a hypothesis I’d like to test, that the more Trump voters there are in a county, the more strongly that county went to Clinton.

I wonder if you can get the data the NY Times used.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/24 "2018-07-27T14:02:18Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> This map dispels the myth that says the rich voted for Trump and the poor voted for Clinton.
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> It appears that it’s the exact opposite — the rich voted for Clinton while the poor voted for Trump.

I’m not sure where you get that from. There’s a whole lot more poor people concentrated in the urban areas than spread across the Great Plains. Anyway, income level breakdowns [are easy to find](https://www.statista.com/statistics/631244/voter-turnout-of-the-exit-polls-of-the-2016-elections-by-income/) without making guesses based on the map.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/25 "2018-07-27T14:04:33Z")

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Is the map incomplete? [Northern Maine, and some parts east of Bangor, are empty](https://goo.gl/enxUmQ). I realize that northern Maine is extremely rural, but it isn’t completely devoid of people, is it?

(Yes, it does take some seconds to load)

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/26 "2018-07-27T14:10:44Z")

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Missed the edit window: [Wiki’s map of Maine’s congressional districts since 2013](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine%27s_congressional_districts#/media/File%3AMaine_Congressional_Districts%2C_113th_Congress.tif) shows voting districts up in those empty spots on the NY Times map.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/27 "2018-07-27T14:11:18Z")

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I already knew this, but I guess I need to change my username to “Bubble Boy”. 86th percentile for HRC.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/28 "2018-07-27T14:16:20Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> That map takes forever to load for me.
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> As an aside, does anyone have a text or spreadsheet file of county-level results across the country? I’ve a hypothesis I’d like to test, that the more Trump voters there are in a county, the more strongly that county went to Clinton.

Try[this.](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/8/1755454/-2008-2016-US-Presidential-Election-by-County-all-in-a-single-spreadsheet)

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/29 "2018-07-27T14:34:59Z")

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Cool, thanks. Rural, white Clinton voters appear in a few places: a ring around Madison, Wisconsin; much of Vermont; coastal Maine; the resort mountain area of Colorado; and parts of the Pacific states (northern coastal California and the Sierra foothills…).

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/30 "2018-07-27T14:41:08Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Cool, thanks. Rural, white Clinton voters appear in a few places: a ring around Madison, Wisconsin; much of Vermont\*; coastal Maine; the resort mountain area of Colorado; and parts of the Pacific states (northern coastal California and the Sierra foothills…).

\*Also western Massachussetts.

Other rural areas that favored Clinton are majority Native American or Black.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/31 "2018-07-27T14:49:32Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Possibly areas with a large native population although I don’t know how they vote in Alaska. Rural areas with high native population in the Southwest are one of the few places where you can see large swathes of blue.

I checked out my home town in southern MN, and it is red, but there is a blue precinct just north of it that is the Dakota Sioux reservation.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/32 "2018-07-27T14:53:02Z")

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> [@Lamoral](#):
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> Man, there’s a lot of red on that map.

And when the court hands down its “One acre, one vote” decision we’re in trouble.

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**Author:** ![Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tired_and_Cranky)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/33 "2018-07-27T15:00:47Z")

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82% Clinton and 10% Trump in my district.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/34 "2018-07-27T15:07:17Z")

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There are several places in the country where you could drive directly north to south (with at most a slight jog) and never leave a Trump precinct.

The closest you could come west to east would be to start in southern Oregon just north of Medford, drop down through Illinois, twist through Ohio and emerge in Delaware.

By careful driving you could stay Clinton if you started at the Canadian border in Vermont and make it as far south as Wilmington, DE, except for a Trump moat around New Milford, CT.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/35 "2018-07-27T15:08:15Z")

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Pretty much what I expected around here. Low population density and snobbery resulted in red districts. The interesting part is how close the vote was in many districts.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/36 "2018-07-27T15:19:47Z")

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I’m sitting in a business district at the moment. It went 29 to 26 for Trump. That’s 29 to 26 _votes_!  
It also appears that three people in this precinct didn’t vote for either.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/37 "2018-07-27T15:27:22Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> I’m not sure where you get that from. There’s a whole lot more poor people concentrated in the urban areas than spread across the Great Plains. Anyway, income level breakdowns [are easy to find](https://www.statista.com/statistics/631244/voter-turnout-of-the-exit-polls-of-the-2016-elections-by-income/) without making guesses based on the map.

Thanks for the link. After looking at the San Francisco Bay Area and Manhattan and other rich areas, I was thinking that the very rural precincts have lower incomes, and most of those are red.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/38 "2018-07-27T15:29:14Z")

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I checked out a number of areas, and the thing that interested me the most is that there are far more districts that went VERY high for Clinton - over 95 percent her way - than went over 95 percent for Trump. Areas in and around San Francisco, LA, DC, NY, etc. Sure, these areas are known to be liberal, but there are districts that went 99 percent Clinton. Admittedly, I didn’t check every precinct in the country, but even looking in ND, SD, TX, etc., I didn’t find very many places that went 97%+ for Trump, but lots that went 97%+ for Clinton. And many of those 97%+ Clinton places have a lot of people.

This adds credence to the “Bubble” theory that more liberals live in liberal bubbles than conservatives who live in conservative bubbles. If you live in a place that voted 99 percent Clinton, with local and national media that are liberal, there’s your bubble.

And to cut off an expected response: Yes, it’s Trump we’re talking about. A miserable person and lousy candidate. But he was running against Clinton, who is equally as miserable and lousy. And for the record, I didn’t vote for either of them. I am one of the “purity ponies” mentioned above. I couldn’t bring myself to vote for either of these cretins.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/39 "2018-07-27T15:29:35Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> As an aside, does anyone have a text or spreadsheet file of county-level results across the country? I’ve a hypothesis I’d like to test, that the more Trump voters there are in a county, the more strongly that county went to Clinton.

This might work:

> **[GitHub - tonmcg/US\_County\_Level\_Election\_Results\_08-20: United States General...](https://github.com/tonmcg/US_County_Level_Election_Results_08-20)**
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> United States General Election Presidential Results by County from 2008 to 2016 - tonmcg/US\_County\_Level\_Election\_Results\_08-20

If you want to skip some of the github rigmarole, I’ll email you a tarball of those files.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-extremely-detailed-map-of-the-2016-election/818656/40 "2018-07-27T15:49:35Z")

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The most depressing thing about this is that in my zip code, which has a population of around 80,000, only a little over 600 people voted for either candidate.

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