# An insufferable wedding announcent.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 23, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170 "2016-06-23T17:43:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_Hey_Paula)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/81 "2016-06-26T01:16:53Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> At Williams-Sonoma, they have ordered a madeleine plaque. One simply cannot read Proust to one another without homemade madeleines as accompaniment.
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> [http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/4277331/?wlitemid=4277331&wlid=bgxrpgb8dm&ggfrl=1](http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/4277331/?wlitemid=4277331&wlid=bgxrpgb8dm&ggfrl=1)

I would totally buy that for someone who liked baking. Except this couple. I don’t even know them and I hope they never own this item in their whole lives.

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**Author:** ![SandyHook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@SandyHook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SandyHook)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/82 "2016-06-26T02:05:26Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Utter twats.

Uh, shouldn’t that be twits?

As I think about it some more, depending on the exact level of insultatude that you had in mind, twats could be correct. But in my opinion twats are rather a good thing.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/83 "2016-06-26T02:09:26Z")

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> [@SandyHook](#):
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> Uh, shouldn’t that be twits?
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> As I think about it some more, depending on the exact level of insultatude that you had in mind, twats could be correct. But in my opinion twats are rather a good thing.

It’s an insult to Brits.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/84 "2016-06-26T03:03:05Z")

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If there is an ‘open bar’ I honestly suggest that after _ **that** _ announcement, that they multiply the expected liquor-per-person invited to have on hand by three.

Screw Jon Tapper… if you’re going to That wedding, you’ll need those glasses filled, to the top, and often.

> [@gigi](#):
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> She gently sparkles.

_“I don’t care if she burns.”_ - Ralph Kramden.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/85 "2016-06-26T04:34:42Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I would love to see one of those pamphlets.

Can’t help you there, but here’s a link to the wedding photos: [A Day Filled With More Than a Few of Their Favorite Things - The New York Times](http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2016/06/19/fashion/weddings/a-day-filled-with-more-than-a-few-of-their-favorite-things/s/19VOWS-slide-P7AP.html)

> [@davidm](#):
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> WTF does “ear-piercing loveliness” even mean? That’s like saying someone has a blinding voice.

It’s a hipster friend taking the piss. He’s making a crack about just how much fun it is to hang out with a guy who sings opera to himself as he walks down the street.

> [@davidm](#):
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> And maybe I’m being sexist (or something…) but who uses words like “loveliness” when referring to the groom?

Do you think she knows that he’s gay?

> [@SandyHook](#):
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> Uh, shouldn’t that be twits?
> 
> As I think about it some more, depending on the exact level of insultatude that you had in mind, twats could be correct. But in my opinion twats are rather a good thing.

She seems lovely, but twat fits him perfectly.

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**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/86 "2016-06-26T11:47:36Z")

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> [@Waymore](#):
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> This is spot on.

No it is not, but haters gotta hate.

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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/87 "2016-06-26T14:13:54Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> No it is not, but haters gotta hate.

I’m from Fort Wayne, and I’m leaning toward the “Carmel is insufferable” camp.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/88 "2016-06-26T15:13:27Z")

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> [@Pai325](#):
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> My wedding was coming up a few months away and I wanted to find a morning coat. I had purchased a waistcoat and morning trousers from Charles Tyrwhitt. I’ve gotten some good shirts from them, and they were the most affordable and easiest option I had found. For the coat, I headed to Keezer’s, a venerable Boston establishment that has specialized in used men’s formalwear for over 100 years. Since the bride was in Milwaukee, her maid of honor accompanied me to offer advice. As I was trying on different contemporary morning coats, a salesman suggested that he might have another option for me.
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> He returned with a vintage Chipp morning coat, trousers, and waistcoat. The coat was a little long, but with some minor adjustments, the whole outfit looked perfect. The coat has all the small details I could have wanted, my favorite being a small thread behind the buttonhole to hold the boutonniere, and a gorgeous cutaway. Since our wedding was not the most formal affair, I decided to forgo a detachable collar and wear a tie in lavender, the color for the day.
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> Everything looked good until the week of the wedding. I picked it up from the dry cleaner’s, only to find the small mother-of-pearl buttons on the front destroyed. The only place I thought could make a last-minute repair was The Andover Shop. Two days later, Charlie, Larry and their staff saved the day with new buttons. The wedding went off perfectly, and I was grateful to be able celebrate in traditional morning dress.

My God. It’s like a PG Wodehouse novel came to life.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/89 "2016-06-26T16:34:51Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> My God. It’s like a PG Wodehouse novel came to life.

Anyone else noticed that while they enjoy reading PG Wodehouse, they don’t seem to have stumbled on the fact that he wrote like, 100 books making fun of people like them?

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/90 "2016-06-26T17:41:15Z")

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> [@Pai325](#):
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> The groom talks about what he wore here:
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> [Ivy Style](http://www.ivy-style.com/their-favorite-things.html)
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> My wedding was coming up a few months away and I wanted to find a morning coat. I had purchased a waistcoat and morning trousers from Charles Tyrwhitt. I’ve gotten some good shirts from them, and they were the most affordable and easiest option I had found. For the coat, I headed to Keezer’s, a venerable Boston establishment that has specialized in used men’s formalwear for over 100 years. Since the bride was in Milwaukee, her maid of honor accompanied me to offer advice. As I was trying on different contemporary morning coats, a salesman suggested that he might have another option for me.
> 
> He returned with a vintage Chipp morning coat, trousers, and waistcoat. The coat was a little long, but with some minor adjustments, the whole outfit looked perfect. The coat has all the small details I could have wanted, my favorite being a small thread behind the buttonhole to hold the boutonniere, and a gorgeous cutaway. Since our wedding was not the most formal affair, I decided to forgo a detachable collar and wear a tie in lavender, the color for the day.
> 
> Everything looked good until the week of the wedding. I picked it up from the dry cleaner’s, only to find the small mother-of-pearl buttons on the front destroyed. The only place I thought could make a last-minute repair was The Andover Shop. Two days later, Charlie, Larry and their staff saved the day with new buttons. The wedding went off perfectly, and I was grateful to be able celebrate in traditional morning dress.

I retract my previous empathy. At least for him. She may be indeed an awesome person, but he undoubtedly breaks the Insufferably Pretentious Twat scale past 100.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/91 "2016-06-26T18:26:19Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> Anyone else noticed that while they enjoy reading PG Wodehouse, they don’t seem to have stumbled on the fact that he wrote like, 100 books making fun of people like them?

Yes. It’s more of a Northern Maryland/Annapolis thing than in my neck of the woods, but there are a great many new-money or usta’be-money folks who read Wodehouse like it’s “The Preppy Handbook.” (Also sarcastic, but don’t tell that to any of the people I went to High School with.)  
P.S. Their dinner plates are $110 each. Not per setting, per plate. I’m not sure these two are prepared to conduct housekeeping on an ecclesiastical salary. Not even on TWO ecclesiastical salaries. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/92 "2016-06-26T22:27:55Z")

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> [@Sattua](#):
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> I’m from Fort Wayne, and I’m leaning toward the “Carmel is insufferable” camp.

Answer me honestly… have you ever spent any time here or are you just jumping on the everyone in Indiana hates Carmel except for the people who live there bandwagon?

I have spent a lot of time in Fort Wayne… I won’t say anything else.

I’ve lived in seven cities in Indiana and I’ll take Carmel any day (Bloomington running a close second).

Come on down for the 4th of July and you can enjoy our parade where the big fire truck is one of the highlights, and also the celebrities like the news crew from one of Indy’s stations.

Anyway… it appears that the bride actually graduated from Westfield HS which is the next suburb north of Carmel and until fairly recently was a pretty rural farming community.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/93 "2016-06-27T00:03:21Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> Anyone else noticed that while they enjoy reading PG Wodehouse, they don’t seem to have stumbled on the fact that he wrote like, 100 books making fun of people like them?

_Over the next few days, they continued reading the book together. Near the conclusion, Mr. Peters said, there is a great description of anal sex. “We both got impatient so I thumbed to the end of the book, read it and fucked her up the jacksie,” he said._

Good old Wodehouse, never lets you down…

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/94 "2016-06-27T16:04:41Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> Do you think she knows that he’s gay?

“The coat has all the small details I could have wanted, my favorite being a small thread behind the buttonhole to hold the boutonniere, and a gorgeous cutaway.”

“a gorgeous cutaway”? Is there any doubt?

> [@TruCelt](#):
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> P.S. Their dinner plates are $110 each. Not per setting, per plate.

Yes, because they had to pick something from Replacements Ltd, meaning it’s not available anymore. And to each their own, but the pattern they picked is so frou-frou!

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/95 "2016-06-27T16:19:50Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> …  
> Do you think she knows that he’s gay?  
> …

The possibility of his being gay (not that there’s anything wrong with that… seriously) is discussed in some of the comments below the article. One commenter has this to say:

[QUOTE=Cheesesteakhero]  
I manage weddings on this level at a fancy Virginia hotel and I can almost guarantee this is true, but also that they both know it. We do “this wedding” all the time. She is most likely gay as well, or damaged/asexual. He’s a narcissist/ sociopath who needs to marry and have an heir to get his hands on the family money and to stay in their good graces. She gets to keep her head in the books and the clouds and have a safe marriage with no yucky sex. They will have a kid right away, maybe two, and stay married for a good long while, cause, why not?  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/96 "2016-06-27T17:11:33Z")

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Ach, nevermind.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/97 "2016-06-27T21:46:16Z")

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He can’t be gay. He’s Catholic.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/98 "2016-06-27T22:02:44Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> Answer me honestly… have you ever spent any time here or are you just jumping on the everyone in Indiana hates Carmel except for the people who live there bandwagon?

I have spent plenty of time in Carmel. Time I will never get back. I also know lots of people from synagogue who live there. Some are nice, but they are to a person clueless about the fact that there are people in the world who make less than $40,000 a year. My husband and I have a combined income of about $48,000, and we live close enough to Speedway to find the race a large inconvenience. And _gasp_ in an apartment building. They think we are dirt-poor.

> [@](#):
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> I have spent a lot of time in Fort Wayne… I won’t say anything else.

I like Ft. Wayne.

> [@](#):
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> I’ve lived in seven cities in Indiana and I’ll take Carmel any day (Bloomington running a close second).

Lived in Bloomington for many, many years. I like it, but it has its own insufferable moments.

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**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/99 "2016-06-28T01:13:22Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> I have spent plenty of time in Carmel. Time I will never get back. I also know lots of people from synagogue who live there. Some are nice, but they are to a person clueless about the fact that there are people in the world who make less than $40,000 a year. My husband and I have a combined income of about $48,000, and we live close enough to Speedway to find the race a large inconvenience. And _gasp_ in an apartment building. They think we are dirt-poor.

I understand… we make considerably more but some people here don’t understand we are well above average. I will say that I’ve found many of those same people to be the most generous people I’ve ever met… a few raising literally millions for charity each year.

If you regret your time spent here please come up for PorchFest in Sept. Musicians playing on front porches. Bring a chair or a blanket and take it all in. Totally free. You can google it if you want.

> [@](#):
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> I like Ft. Wayne.

I don’t want to turn this into a Ft Wayne bashing thread, but I’ve traveled all over the country for youth sports, and there is only one place that I stayed that had the schedule for the shuttle to the strip bars posted at the front desk. Don’t make me tell you the story of the blood stained sheet I found in the morning after sleeping on it (also in Ft. Wayne… different hotel/trip… and not my blood) If you want to raise kids… looking at school ratings (scale of 1 to 10) Ft. Wayne’s lowest is a 1… Carmel’s is a 9.

> [@](#):
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> Lived in Bloomington for many, many years. I like it, but it has its own insufferable moments.

Yes, there are lots of hipsters there just like any college town, but you have to admit that the food and culture as well as the beauty of the campus ans surrounding lakes and forests are pretty damn nice.

Back on topic though… the couple being discussed are pompous asses.

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**Author:** ![Dickerman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@Dickerman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dickerman)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/100 "2016-06-28T02:45:35Z")

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What I’m finding insufferable are the mocking, belittling, innuendo-laden, disrespectful, meanspirited, and nasty comments directed towards this seemingly friendly and loving couple.

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