# An insufferable wedding announcent.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 23, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170 "2016-06-23T17:43:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/101 "2016-06-28T17:30:50Z")

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> [@Dickerman](#):
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> …friendly and loving couple.

You forgot “narcissistic”, “self-important” and “head up their own arsed”.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/102 "2016-06-29T02:01:40Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> The possibility of his being gay (not that there’s anything wrong with that… seriously) . . .

Please understand, the gender/preference spectrum is something I wholly understand, and people finding their places on it can be a life-long exploration which I fully support.

What’s not OK is knowing that you are gay, and marrying someone of the opposite sex who does not know it. This happened to a friend of mine, and might well have happened to me had I not been informed by her experience.

So, yeah, it was a joke, but only mostly.  
One can’t help wondering though, with all the attention he gave to the jacket, why on earth he didn’t get a decent haircut before the ceremony?

☹  
OK, look, I’m sorry. Maybe it is mean spirited, but sometimes people need to be teased out of their naval contemplation, and this guy does seem to qualify. It’s not like we’re joining in the true nastiness happening on that NYT page.

But you’re right. I’m gonna stop now. I don’t even know these people, and they may very well be off on a lifetime of true service to their fellow human beings. So I’m gonna quit.  
But I can still read the new ones that other people post, right? 😛

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/103 "2016-06-29T02:43:20Z")

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> [@Dickerman](#):
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> What I’m finding insufferable are the mocking, belittling, innuendo-laden, disrespectful, meanspirited, and nasty comments directed towards this seemingly friendly and loving couple.

I’m sure they’re lovely people, and they probably throw great dinner parties and are likeable on a personal level.

That doesn’t make the article about them any less cringe-worthy, nor the worldview they display therein any less tone-deaf, elitist, and emblematic of one-percenter privilege.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/104 "2016-06-29T03:53:16Z")

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> sometimes people need to be teased out of their naval contemplation

But I _like_ boats.

😃

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/105 "2016-06-29T04:30:04Z")

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Screw the registry. Give them a 16 piece set of Corelleware.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/106 "2016-06-29T15:55:03Z")

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> [@Dickerman](#):
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> What I’m finding insufferable are the mocking, belittling, innuendo-laden, disrespectful, meanspirited, and nasty comments directed towards this seemingly friendly and loving couple.

Also insufferable is how a gun was held to your head forcing you to read them.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/107 "2016-06-29T19:01:46Z")

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Actually, I’m starting to feel a bit guilty about starting this thread. We’re publicly mocking two identifiable individuals who are hurting no one and, given how much Google likes this board, it’s very possible that this thread has or will soon come to their attention and that they’re reading it or soon will be.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/108 "2016-06-29T19:21:36Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Actually, I’m starting to feel a bit guilty about starting this thread. We’re publicly mocking two identifiable individuals who are hurting no one and, given how much Google likes this board, it’s very possible that this thread has or will soon come to their attention and that they’re reading it or soon will be.

Ain’t narcissism a bitch?

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/109 "2016-06-30T15:08:29Z")

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My favorite part of this thread came outta nowhere, folks. Whoda thunk someone could take attention away from the pretentiously twee hipster groom?

But congrats, **Spud**! Your posts defending Carmel have been a delightful surprise. They’ve also beautifully supported **RivkahChaya** ’s take on the city – for someone who had absolutely no impression of Carmel IN before this thread – even more effectively than the multiple posters who agreed with her.

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**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/110 "2016-07-07T00:51:47Z")

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I should have just let this die a peaceful sinking into the abyss, but I noticed another drive by insult from someone else who has never been here. Not a single person who has said something negative about the city I have called home for the last 21 years and where I raised my kids has admitted that they have ever been here.

People on this board like cites… so here is one that just came out last week:

> **[The 50 Safest Cities to Raise a Family in 2022 | SafeWise](https://www.safewise.com/blog/safest-cities-to-raise-a-child/)**
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> SafeWise is proud to help you find the safest cities to raise kids. Here are the 50 Safest Cities to Raise Children. See if your city made the list!

Spoiler Alert… Safest City to raise a child is my home town (that is in the nation) second is the suburb directly to the east of us.

Here is another cite from a day later:

> **[50 Worst Cities to Live In – 24/7 Wall St.](https://247wallst.com/special-report/2016/06/28/the-worst-cities-to-live-in/11/)**
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> Deciding on the right city to live in will always require some compromise. A city like New York may have a booming job market, but it is also one of the most expensive places in the country. Alternatively, while a dollar may go a long way in Houston,...

Don’t worry **zweisamkeit** your city wasn’t the worst in the nation… only the second worst.

I’ve actually spent quite a bit of time in Detroit and the surrounding areas and some live up to the stereotype and others are quite nice. I would have thought that someone who lives in a city that has such a negative reputation would understand the point of defending their home from negative comments from people who have never been there.

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**Author:** ![carlotta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@carlotta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlotta)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/111 "2016-07-07T14:32:05Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Actually, I’m starting to feel a bit guilty about starting this thread. We’re publicly mocking two identifiable individuals who are hurting no one and, given how much Google likes this board, it’s very possible that this thread has or will soon come to their attention and that they’re reading it or soon will be.

Thank you for this sort of apology. This thread seemed so unkind I finally had to go read the article for myself. Jesus you guys are a bunch of meanies. Honestly there didn’t seem anything douchey about them at all to me. They’re into early medieval Christianity and P.G. Wodehouse. I mean I guess there’s tip offs about his family being rich what with the house on Martha’s Vineyard and a family lodge in Stowe, but there’s nothing objectionable to me about that.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/112 "2016-07-07T14:54:08Z")

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The objectionable part is their enormous sense of themselves, coupled with precious affectations _and_ a lack of self-awareness. Any one of these is excusable; most people have had a touch at some point in their lives. But the combination of all three, literally announced to the world? The shade is earned.

The “love connection” aspect is not part of that. Good for them; love is wonderful and I hope they get better together. They’re not _terrible people,_ and I don’t wish them harm. Nor shall I have a flicker of remorse for rolling eyes and laughing at them.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/113 "2016-07-07T15:18:14Z")

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> [@carlotta](#):
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> Thank you for this sort of apology. This thread seemed so unkind I finally had to go read the article for myself. Jesus you guys are a bunch of meanies. Honestly there didn’t seem anything douchey about them at all to me. They’re into early medieval Christianity and P.G. Wodehouse. I mean I guess there’s tip offs about his family being rich what with the house on Martha’s Vineyard and a family lodge in Stowe, but there’s nothing objectionable to me about that.

Honestly, when I posted it I was nearly certain that it was a joke. If I had known it was real I might have refrained.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/114 "2016-07-07T17:29:53Z")

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Her dress is actually really pretty. (“gently sparkling” not withstanding) His suit though. (I’m surprised he didn’t add a top hat, white gloves and a walking stick)

> [@hogarth](#):
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> My favourite line: "He’s often seen in a bow tie or some kind of hat.”
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> That says it all.

NOT a baseball cap, though. That’s for the hoi polloi.

> [@Spud](#):
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> Answer me honestly… have you ever spent any time here or are you just jumping on the everyone in Indiana hates Carmel except for the people who live there bandwagon?
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> I have spent a lot of time in Fort Wayne… I won’t say anything else.
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> I’ve lived in seven cities in Indiana and I’ll take Carmel any day (Bloomington running a close second).
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> Come on down for the 4th of July and you can enjoy our parade where the big fire truck is one of the highlights, and also the celebrities like the news crew from one of Indy’s stations.
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> Anyway… it appears that the bride actually graduated from Westfield HS which is the next suburb north of Carmel and until fairly recently was a pretty rural farming community.

Lighten up, Francis.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/115 "2016-07-07T20:09:45Z")

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> [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](#):
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> I would totally buy that for someone who liked baking. Except this couple. I don’t even know them and I hope they never own this item in their whole lives.

Christ don’t get it there, get it from somewhere worlds cheaper like Amazon - though I think mine came from King Arthur FLour’s online shop/

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/116 "2016-07-07T20:15:38Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> He can’t be gay. He’s Catholic.

Some of the pics of him, he looks like the stereotypical lesbian (not that there’s anything wrong with that).

A sibling of a relative’s spouse (hope that’s ambiguous enough) made the NYT wedding announcements a couple of years ago. Although not mentioned, the bride is like 5th generation upper East Side, both her parents Wall Street heavy hitters. I’ll likely meet her this Thanksgiving 😃

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/117 "2016-07-07T22:29:35Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Actually, I’m starting to feel a bit guilty about starting this thread. We’re publicly mocking two identifiable individuals who are hurting no one and, given how much Google likes this board, it’s very possible that this thread has or will soon come to their attention and that they’re reading it or soon will be.

I don’t think you have anything to worry about. This story has been bouncing around the internet quite a bit. This may have been the tenth place I saw it. I have multiple friends sharing it on Facebook. I’m sure the Dope is at best a very small blip on the radar.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/118 "2016-07-08T01:07:40Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Actually, I’m starting to feel a bit guilty about starting this thread. We’re publicly mocking two identifiable individuals who are hurting no one and, given how much Google likes this board, it’s very possible that this thread has or will soon come to their attention and that they’re reading it or soon will be.

This site is only prominent on Google to people who spend a lot of time here. Google’s algorithm adjusts the priority of hits based on the user’s history.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/119 "2016-07-08T01:10:37Z")

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> [@carlotta](#):
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> Thank you for this sort of apology. This thread seemed so unkind I finally had to go read the article for myself. Jesus you guys are a bunch of meanies. Honestly there didn’t seem anything douchey about them at all to me. They’re into early medieval Christianity and P.G. Wodehouse. I mean I guess there’s tip offs about his family being rich what with the house on Martha’s Vineyard and a family lodge in Stowe, but there’s nothing objectionable to me about that.

Will no one think of the wealthy snobs? ☹

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-insufferable-wedding-announcent/758170/120 "2016-07-08T01:43:39Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> I should have just let this die a peaceful sinking into the abyss, but I noticed another drive by insult from someone else who has never been here. Not a single person who has said something negative about the city I have called home for the last 21 years and where I raised my kids has admitted that they have ever been here.

I have spent lots of time there. And it’s not really a city. Get over it. You live in Indianapolis.

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