# An interesting thought about science denialists **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940 "2011-09-11T14:30:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/201 "2011-09-14T13:50:58Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yes, except that he doesn’t get shouted down or dog piled the same way right wing insane posters do. I grant he’s not generally respected, but he is mostly tolerated, with a wry resignation. “There goes Der Trihs again…” I honestly don’t think there IS a right-wing poster as outright insane as Der Trihs, or I’d probably tolerate him/her too rather than shout him/her down. There’s a point past which people just aren’t worth engaging, and they cease to have any meaningful affiliation with the groups they are ostensibly sharing a side with. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/202 "2011-09-14T15:28:40Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > I honestly don’t think there IS a right-wing poster as outright insane as Der Trihs, or I’d probably tolerate him/her too rather than shout him/her down. There’s a point past which people just aren’t worth engaging, and they cease to have any meaningful affiliation with the groups they are ostensibly sharing a side with. **Starving Artist**. To him, the liberals are as evil as the conservatives are to **DT**. I’ve decided to just let him babble instead of engaging or even mocking him. Neither is worth the effort any more. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/203 "2011-09-14T22:28:33Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > **Starving Artist**. To him, the liberals are as evil as the conservatives are to **DT**. I’ve decided to just let him babble instead of engaging or even mocking him. Neither is worth the effort any more. You know, I also thought about him as the perfect example, but I thought that it could become the SA show so I thought better about not mentioning him, but since he was… Besides also supporting climate change denial he also supports third party people that follow birtherism and creationism because liberals make them fall into that. (Don’t ask) Regarding the last item, he really believes that a Google vomit is a great way to get support for his point. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/204 "2011-09-14T23:45:03Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > **Starving Artist**. To him, the liberals are as evil as the conservatives are to **DT**. I’ve decided to just let him babble instead of engaging or even mocking him. Neither is worth the effort any more. Good call on that. I have had him ignored so long that I forgot about him. (as an occasional City of Heroes player, it’s not prudent of me to do that to Trihs.) ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/205 "2011-09-15T04:52:28Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > **Starving Artist**. To him, the liberals are as evil as the conservatives are to **DT**. > [@Zeriel](#): > > Good call on that. This illustrates a big problem I have on this board: people just refuse to see what I’ve really said. I think liberals are selfish, immature, wrongheaded and have screwed up values, but I’ve never thought of them as evil and I’m confident you won’t find one post of mine where I’ve said they were. Remember: conservatives think liberals have bad ideas; liberals think conservatives are bad people. “Evil” is a word liberals like to throw around. There may have been a time when one of the board’s conservatives might have called liberals evil, but I can’t think of one if so. On the other hand, I’d have no trouble whatsoever making a wager that I could find 10,000 instances of conservatives as a group or as individuals being described as evil by posters on this board. Another difference between me and **Der Trihs** is that I’ve never wished death on tens of thousands of American service people, or stated that if I were granted super powers I would use them to accomplish that. **Der Trihs** is a loon of the highest order. Me, I just look around around at what forty years of what liberal permissiveness and liberal policies have wrought and shake my head in disgust. Pretty benign really, when compared to **Der Trihs’** lunatic assertions that anyone who believes in God is mentally ill, that conservatives want and actively seek to hurt and kill women and minorites, and that every U.S. service man or woman in Iraq, even computer jockeys and supply clerks, deserves to die. So you see there’s really no comparison, and the fact you two think there is speaks more to your problems with reading comprehension and ability to think straight than to anything I’ve ever said on this board. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/206 "2011-09-15T05:45:35Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > This illustrates a big problem I have on this board: people just refuse to see what I’ve really said. “A man sees what he wants to see, and disregards the rest” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/207 "2011-09-15T07:14:32Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > “A man sees what he wants to see, and disregards the rest” Yeah, interesting that he avoided the science denial part and concentrated only on the opinion that \*\*DerTris \*\*is insane, I even could agree on occasion with that assessment and actually \*\*Bosstone \*\*and \*\*Zeriel \*\*agree with him. As for not reaching for evil comparisons (Check that 3rd post): > **[Starving Artist: Totally Insane? Or Just Almost?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=487610)** > > Can someone please explain this post to me? Kthx. Well, that is OK, I guess he can not help but to point out that liberals “could be called evil”, and after all those examples that exude of love from his part it would be stupid to call liberals evil, really no, check all those evil liberal examples! But no, he will not call liberals evil… :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/208 "2011-09-15T07:56:56Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > This illustrates a big problem I have on this board: people just refuse to see what I’ve really said. […] > I think liberals are selfish, immature, wrongheaded and have screwed up values, but I’ve never thought of them as evil and I’m confident you won’t find one post of mine where I’ve said they were. Oh good heavens no. All you’ve “really said”—constantly, over and over again—are things like the following: > [@Starving Artist on 06-20-2011](#): > > [when a liberal calls you a racist, what he really means is that you disagree with his politically-correct way of thinking](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13937263&postcount=277) […] It’s only in the world of liberalism that one gets called vile names for championing education over thug life […] > [@Starving Artist on 04-15-2011](#): > > [It’s obvious that liberals,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13693265&postcount=211)who rant and rail and behave as though any “insensitive” remark justifies job and career loss and almost total societal excommunication, remain utterly unmoved by the pain and suffering and lost lives that liberal permissiveness and the moral relativity they support have caused. It’s also obvious that this is a consequence of the extraordinary selfishness that is part and parcel of liberalism itself. Nothing matters so much to the liberal mind as the ability to do what you want, and consequences be damned. > [@Starving Artist on 03-09-2011](#): > > [I myself think liberals are trying to destroy America.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13553865&postcount=183) In fact, I think to a large degree they already have. > [@Starving Artist on 10-04-2010](#): > > [Millions of people have died in this country over the last forty years as a direct result of liberal permissiveness and policies](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12987052&postcount=129) > [@Starving Artist on 03-22-2010](#): > > [liberalism is an utterly dictatorial and inflexible and unyielding ideology and one which seeks to utterly crush its opponents](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12254299&postcount=898) > [@Starving Artist on 03-14-2010](#): > > [liberals and liberalism are a far greater threat to our happiness and the freedoms we’ve always enjoyed than any other threat out there](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12224326&postcount=120) > [@Starving Artist on 02-07-2010](#): > > [conservatives have much of what liberals want, which is earned income, and so they demonize conservatives in order to justify taking money from them](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12089314&postcount=163) > [@Starving Artist on 11-01-2009](#): > > [Liberals are responsible for a country full of criminals](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11728215&postcount=392) […] Liberals are responsible for the drug problem in this country > [@Starving Artist on 09-14-2008](#): > > [I’ll hold up millions of deaths over the last 40 years due to the permissive society you champion from drugs and drug-related crimes,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10197255&postcount=211) […] from people raped and killed by criminals and murderers set loose on society by liberal judges and correctional systems; from drive-by shootings in gang-related killings caused by gangs that have been allowed to flourish, grow and propogate by liberal resistance to having them outlawed because to do so would be ‘racist’; from AIDS…deaths that are directly attributable to widespread homosexual promiscuity condoned and even encouraged by liberals in the early eighties; by second and third term abortion of perfectly sentient little babies who, with a little care and stabilization in the hospital, could have survived and been taken home way prematurely just like a full-term baby, and who instead are subjected to some of the most horrific deaths imaginable by the very same people who wail that using drugs on torturing, raping murderers is cruel because, who knows, they might feel something before they die. […] > > **So yeah, I think if anybody in this country could be called evil it would be you guys, because millions upon millions of people in this country have suffered and died over the last 40 years because of you!** (Emphasis added.) Gee, **Starving Artist** , where could anyone possibly have got the idea that you regard liberals as “evil”? :rolleyes: Face it, **SA** , you can’t spend most of your posting history here vituperatively accusing liberals of having evil attitudes and committing evil actions, and then get all butthurt and self-pitying when other posters not unreasonably infer that what you intend to convey is that liberals are evil. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/209 "2011-09-15T08:24:11Z")
Nope, in none of those quotes save the last did I say anything about liberals being evel, and I only did in the last one to fend off accustions of evil on the part of conservatives, which I did by showing evidence by where one could call liberals evil as a counterbalance to accusatoins of evil aimed toward conservatives. It other words, it wasn’t really me calling liberals evil so much as it was an instance of "If you want to point to x, y, and z and examples of conservative evil, I can point to a, b, & c which shows you to be just as if not more evil. So we were comparing each others behavir with the other side (naturally) calling my side evil. So I "Oh, yeah, if you wanna talk evel how do you explain a, b & c. So really, that instnace was really little more than a tit for tat display of “your bad’s worse then mine” and it doesn’t really carry much importantce outside that particular argument. I can tell you that I have never in my private ruminations about life, thought of the word evil when thinking of liberals, and this is simply because I really and truly do no think of them as being evil people. I think some of what they do can cause evil result, which is what I was talking about in the quote you cite, but that does not mean I think of them as being evil people. It’s quite possible to create evil while trying to accomplish good, and I think that to the degree we see evil coming from the left, it’s mostly unintentional. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/210 "2011-09-15T08:45:32Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > I can tell you that I have never in my private ruminations about life, thought of the word evil when thinking of liberals, I’m not arguing with that claim. Rather, what I’m pointing out is that since, in your public ruminations about life, you obviously **have** thought of words such as “vile” and “selfishness” and “unmoved by suffering” and “trying to destroy America” and “dictatorial” and “threat to happiness and freedom” and “murderers set loose on society” and “horrific deaths” and “demonization” when thinking of liberals… …then it’s hardly unreasonable for other posters to interpret that as meaning that you think liberals are evil. Even if you carefully refrain from explicitly using that particular four-letter word in your fulminations against liberals, the insults that you do use definitely give that impression. You don’t come across as someone who doesn’t consider liberals evil: you come across as someone who does consider liberals evil but who for some reason is unwilling to call a spade a spade about it. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/211 "2011-09-15T11:36:58Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Nope, in none of those quotes save the last did I say anything about liberals being evil Yes, indeed. It’s like when you say “Conservatives slaughter babies because they enjoy it”, you’re not _saying_ that conservatives are evil. You’re just implying it. Really, really, really hard. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/212 "2011-09-15T11:38:37Z")
Internets, where everybody is a God among men. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/213 "2011-09-15T12:29:08Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Nope, in none of those quotes save the last did I say anything about liberals being evel, and I only did in the last one to fend off accustions of evil on the part of conservatives, which I did by showing evidence by where one could call liberals evil as a counterbalance to accusatoins of evil aimed toward conservatives. And then they’ll counterbalance by calling right-wingers evil, which leads to conservatives referring to liberals as Satan-spawn and… O the humanity. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/214 "2011-09-15T16:59:17Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I’m not arguing with that claim. Rather, what I’m pointing out is that since, in your public ruminations about life, you obviously **have** thought of words such as “vile” and “selfishness” and “unmoved by suffering” and “trying to destroy America” and “dictatorial” and “threat to happiness and freedom” and “murderers set loose on society” and “horrific deaths” and “demonization” when thinking of liberals… > > …then it’s hardly unreasonable for other posters to interpret that as meaning that you think liberals are evil. > > Even if you carefully refrain from explicitly using that particular four-letter word in your fulminations against liberals, the insults that you do use definitely give that impression. You don’t come across as someone who doesn’t consider liberals evil: you come across as someone who does consider liberals evil but who for some reason is unwilling to call a spade a spade about it. **Kimstu** I do applaud you for having taken the time and effort, but I think you are well beyond cockeyed optimism if you are looking for some kind of change or even some kind of semblance of recognition of a glimmer of a point from this particular person. I really do believe he made his way to the board due to a terrible misunderstanding of the name of the board. In terms of the point of this thread, I think that Starving Artist’s _best_ quality is his science denialism. It only goes downhill from there. Whenever I read an offering from Starving Artist, I can’t help but hear him in the voice of Count Ruger, from the Princess Bride: “As you know, the concept of the awful message board post is decades old. Really that’s all this is except that instead of simply sucking your time, I’m sucking life. My last post just sucked one year of your life away. I might one day post something that would go as high as five, but I really don’t know what that would do to you. So, let’s just start with what we have. What did this do to you? Tell me. And remember, this is for posterity so be honest. How do you feel?” ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/215 "2011-09-16T00:39:29Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I’m not arguing with that claim. Rather, what I’m pointing out is that since, in your public ruminations about life, you obviously **have** thought of words such as “vile” and “selfishness” and “unmoved by suffering” and “trying to destroy America” and “dictatorial” and “threat to happiness and freedom” and “murderers set loose on society” and “horrific deaths” and “demonization” when thinking of liberals… > > …then it’s hardly unreasonable for other posters to interpret that as meaning that you think liberals are evil. > > Even if you carefully refrain from explicitly using that particular four-letter word in your fulminations against liberals, the insults that you do use definitely give that impression. You don’t come across as someone who doesn’t consider liberals evil: you come across as someone who does consider liberals evil but who for some reason is unwilling to call a spade a spade about it. Among other things, I consider liberals to be immature, selfish and short-sighted and wrongheaded. Those are the qualities which I believe have lead to the things I’ve criticized them for. As I’ve said, I view them pretty much as willful 14-year-olds despite their actual chronological age. Liberals cause a lot of trouble because of those qualities but that doesn’t make them evil. “Evil”, to me, requires a conscious, sadistic desire to do harm, and I’ve never felt that liberals _want_ to cause all the harm they do. But they damn sure don’t seem to care much after the fact. I remember one thread where I was lamenting the millions of deaths that have occurred since the couterculture revolution due to drugs, gangs, revolving door prisons and so forth, and all the kids being improperly raised in single-parent-to-no-parent homes and therefore most likely doomed to lives of crime and poverty, and this middle aged woman I was arguing with stated flat out that it was all worthwhile because now she can open her own checking accout. To me this speaks volumes about the liberal mentality, which, while not necessarily “evil”, certainly doesn’t give the slightest good damn about the consequences of its actions. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/216 "2011-09-16T00:48:21Z")
I believe conservatives to be cruel, vapid and never right about anything. This is why I have been forced to criticize them. As I’ve said before, they really act like selfish old men, despite their age or sex. Conservatives seem to cause a lot of pain to others because of this, but I guess you could not actually call them “evil”. Conservatives are probably too stupid to actually have a conscious desire to do this. I remember once when I wrote in a thread about the millions of deaths caused by noted conservative policies, and this old fart I was arguing with was happy because at least the trains ran on time. To me, this speaks a lot about the conservative mentality, while not quite “evil”, certainly does not give a tinker’s damn for the consequences of its actions. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/217 "2011-09-16T01:18:21Z")
This thread is bad and you should feel bad. ---
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/218 "2011-09-16T21:15:10Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Among other things, I consider liberals to be immature, selfish and short-sighted and wrongheaded. See, you’re just a liberalphobe. It’s a new diagnosis that covers several neuroses previously thought to be distinct, like homophobia, Islamophobia, racism, hatred of the “Other”, and climate denialism. Don’t feel bad; it’s not a personal failing, just a medical condition, except you don’t go to a regular psychiatrist for treatment, you go to a Ph.D. in sociology. She’ll prescribe you a few Alice Walker novels, a seminar on lesbian archetypes in East German neo-representational cinema, and some vegan crispbread. Have you feeling left as rain in a jiffy. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/219 "2011-09-17T15:58:42Z")
Getting back to science denialism, did anyone catch Bill Maher this week [mocking Michele Bachmann’s warnings about the HPV vaccine](http://mrctv.org/videos/bill-maher-uses-texas-hpv-vaccine-issue-call-michele-bachmann-mentally-retarded)? This is the same [Bill Maher](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Maher) who told Larry King during a 2005 interview that a flu shot “is the worst thing you can do” and that it causes Alzheimer’s disease. _“On October 9, 2009, on his HBO show, Maher debated the effectiveness of flu vaccinations with Bill Frist and stated, “Why would you let them be the ones to stick a disease into your arm? I would never get a swine flu vaccine or any vaccine. I don’t trust the government, especially with my health.” Maher also expressed skepticism about the seriousness of the swine flu and whether completely healthy people could die from it.”_ Looks to me like Maher and Bachmann, while poles apart politically, are very close in their vaccine denialist views. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-thought-about-science-denialists/595940/220 "2011-09-19T14:00:37Z")
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