# An invitation to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame to suck my ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 16, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577 "2004-03-16T03:42:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boo_Boo_Foo)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/21 "2004-03-16T22:29:08Z")
> [@Futile Gesture](#): > > As for the ‘rock is about rebellion’ argument. Sorry guys, but what do you think recorded, marketed and put the music in the shop for you to buy? Nothing but the same corporate institutions. They’ve always been selling you your ‘rebellion’, they’re just not hiding it anymore. Nah, that’s crap. When AC/DC recorded “It’s a Long Way to the Top”, they did so looooooooong before they ever left Australia for London, and looooooooooong before “Back in Black” or “Highway to Hell” was ever recorded. They made “Long Way” replete with all it’s cynicism and world weariness back in 1975 in a dusty Sydney studio for a grand total of $6,500 in studio costs. And it remains one of the greatest rock classics ever recorded. So they really meant what they were saying when they made that song. It was the real deal, and they were as poor and as broke as any struggling band in the music scene at the time. The tune was a sleeper hit here in Australia which made a little bit of money for Festival Records, a family owned local label, and then the song fell into the department of “lost classics” waiting to be rediscovered by later generations. In my opinion, that’s what the real spirit of making ballsy music is about. Just do it. Damn the costs or the consequences. Just get it out there, somehow. If it’s good enough, it’ll get discovered eventually. Most importantly of all, you don’t need no goddamned Hall of Fucking Fame to feel vindicated. As the original artist, you’re vindicated everytime some new teenager hears your tune and rocks their head. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/22 "2004-03-16T22:43:25Z")
FTR, I have nothing against Mr. Seger. In fact I like “Mainstreet”, which is generally overlooked. I just think that ELO should have been nominated by now. As for the other bands mentioned, I agree that Black Sabbath and AC/DC should be in as representatives of their genre. I think Jeff Lynne will eventually go in solo as a producer (whether or not you like his style). Since the time frame is 25 years, it will interesting to see who makes it from the 80’s. with artists from 1980 becoming eligible next year. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/23 "2004-03-16T22:45:22Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > Since the time frame is 25 years, it will interesting to see who makes it from the 80’s. with artists from 1980 becoming eligible next year. I can’t imagine any band out of the 80s other than U2 getting in. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/24 "2004-03-16T22:46:34Z")
Sorry, but I’m not spilling any tears over the bypassing of a band that wrote such an inane lyric, “Don’t bring me down, Groos”. For years I thought he was singing “Bruce” and really rolling the R, which in itself raised any number of questions. Then, asking about the song here, I learned that it’s “Groos”. Just a nonsense word to fill the note. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/25 "2004-03-16T22:58:10Z")
> [@](#): > > I can’t imagine any band out of the 80s other than U2 getting in. I’d say the Talking Heads, REM, and Van Halen (the bulk of whose memorable output was in the 80s) are all pretty obvious choices. Dr. J ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/26 "2004-03-16T23:16:40Z")
> [@Spectre of Pithecanthropus](#): > > Sorry, but I’m not spilling any tears over the bypassing of a band that wrote such an inane lyric, “Don’t bring me down, Groos”. > > For years I thought he was singing “Bruce” and really rolling the R, which in itself raised any number of questions. Then, asking about the song here, I learned that it’s “Groos”. Just a nonsense word to fill the note. Jeff was on VH1’s _Storytellers_ a couple of years ago and said that he did indeed make up “groos” as a filler word. He was informed by the studio engineer that the word was similar to the German word for “greetings” (Grüße). However, since everybody thought he was saying “Bruce”, he started singing “Bruce” in concert. I agree that it’s not one of ELO’s better tunes. In fact, _Discovery_, or “Disco-very” as it was often referred to, is way down my list of favorite ELO albums. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lodoen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b3f665/32.png) [@Jeff\_Lodoen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lodoen)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/27 "2004-03-16T23:18:49Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > I’d say the Talking Heads, REM, and Van Halen (the bulk of whose memorable output was in the 80s) are all pretty obvious choices. > > Dr. J Talking Heads were inducted in 2002. > [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > As for the other bands mentioned, I agree that Black Sabbath and AC/DC should be in as representatives of their genre. AC/DC in 2003. Black Sabbath (all of them?) has said they don’t want to be inducted. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/28 "2004-03-16T23:37:42Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > As for ELO, they should have turned down the FRUITY CRAPLOAD knob on their synthesizer once in a while. _ **GODDAMMIT** _ thats funny! * * * Fagjunk Theology: Not just for Sodomite Propagandists anymore! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/29 "2004-03-16T23:42:01Z")
> [@Boo Boo Foo](#): > > They’re not MIT graduates… Actually, Tom Schotz is. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/30 "2004-03-16T23:52:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Talking Heads were inducted in 2002. Which only makes them that much more obvious. 🙂 Once you get to the late 80s, it’s hard to leave out Guns 'n Roses. Still, I think the years of 80s eligibility will be some good chances to induct the people left behind in previous years. The inductees obviously favor not only the names people know, but the music they hear on a regular basis. Most people in the know would agree that the Sex Pistols were incredibly influential, but when is the last time you listened to that album? Meanwhile, some of Bob Seger’s hits are damn near unavoidable. Dr. J ---
**Author:** ![vl\_mungo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@vl\_mungo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vl_mungo)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/31 "2004-03-16T23:53:20Z")
Bob Seger can lick my sack. The same goes for ELO and the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/32 "2004-03-16T23:54:36Z")
Oh, and have no fear, Journey will get in. If Journey gets in before Black Sabbath, that’s when we can give the whole venture up as hopeless. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/33 "2004-03-17T00:01:52Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > Oh, and have no fear, Journey will get in. If Journey gets in before Black Sabbath, that’s when we can give the whole venture up as hopeless. [shuddering Homer]Ewwwww…Journey[sH] ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/34 "2004-03-17T01:37:29Z")
> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#): > > Metallica’s cover sucked far less ass than your average Hilllary Duff single. Please tell me that Hillary Duff didn’t do a cover of _Turn the Page_. Please. I beg you. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/35 "2004-03-17T01:49:19Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > Please tell me that Hillary Duff didn’t do a cover of _Turn the Page_. > > Please. > > I beg you. I think that was just for comparison’s sake. I seriously doubt Hilary would do this song. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/36 "2004-03-17T02:10:37Z")
> [@gatopescado](#): > > Actually, Tom Schotz is. uh…_Scholz_…Tom _Scholz_ of Boston and the Rockman and all that other stuff. Minor nit. Oh - and while Mr. Blue Sky is a good song (and a wonderful Doper) - c’mon - ELO?! Honestly - who cares? The did Telephone Line and Medieval Woman - jeez, what crap. The fact that the Sabs have not been inducted is beyond stupid - even if they don’t want in themselves. They are essential to the music we listen to today - anything remotely heavy past, oh, 1978 or so is all about Black Sabbath. You can’t even remotely say that about ELO. Influence matters. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/37 "2004-03-17T02:12:54Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > I think that was just for comparison’s sake. I seriously doubt Hilary would do this song. One can only hope, although I must say that I would have seriously doubted that Britney Spears would do “Satisfaction” or “I Love Rock and Roll”. (I have never been less convinced that an artist did, in fact, love rock and roll.) In re the R&R Hall of Fame, they still haven’t inducted The Stooges, have they? The big ninnies. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/38 "2004-03-17T02:58:39Z")
Must…resist…urge…to…bring…up…ABBA… Seriously, knowing the way the RRHOF thinks, Air Supply will get in first. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lodoen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b3f665/32.png) [@Jeff\_Lodoen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lodoen)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/39 "2004-03-17T03:33:53Z")
Think Ringo ever gets in? (Beatles 1988: John 1994, Paul 1999, George 2004) Looks like 2009. I question some inductees alot: Bonnie Raitt, Gene Pitney, James Taylor, Joni Mitchell, Etta James, Bobby Darin… Huh, not that many. Let in some “corporate rock” at least its got rock in it. If ZZ Top, the Velcro Fly guys, can get in… ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/40 "2004-03-17T04:48:10Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > Meanwhile, some of Bob Seger’s hits are damn near unavoidable. > > Dr. J Which is a pity, really. Not totally dissing Seger’s output, just 99.999% of it. (Ever hear his cover of “The Little Drummer Boy”? Ick!) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577.md?page=3)