# An invitation to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame to suck my ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 16, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577 "2004-03-16T03:42:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/41 "2004-03-17T11:41:47Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > The fact that the Sabs have not been inducted is beyond stupid - even if they don’t want in themselves. They are essential to the music we listen to today - anything remotely heavy past, oh, 1978 or so is all about Black Sabbath. You can’t even remotely say that about ELO. > > Influence matters. [ELO’s drummer](http://www.black-sabbath.com/personnel/bevan.html) took a stint at drumming for Black Sabbath. So I guess that means ELO influenced Black Sabbath. So you’re right, it matters, glad we could clear this up. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/42 "2004-03-17T11:45:39Z")
Eventually, everybody will get in. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/43 "2004-03-17T12:43:42Z")
> [@Futile Gesture](#): > > [ELO’s drummer](http://www.black-sabbath.com/personnel/bevan.html) took a stint at drumming for Black Sabbath. > > So I guess that means ELO influenced Black Sabbath. So you’re right, it matters, glad we could clear this up. 🙂 He also created the abomination that was ELO Part 2. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/44 "2004-03-17T12:58:30Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > As for ELO, they should have turned down the FRUITY CRAPLOAD knob on their synthesizer once in a while. 😃 Post of the week. ---
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/45 "2004-03-17T12:59:41Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > He also created the abomination that was ELO Part 2. I understand they were also heavily influenced by ELO. The list gets longer… You can also take a listen to Daft Punk’s [Discovery](http://www.virginrecords.com/daft_punk/index2.html), which is just 21st century ELO with a French accent. (Of course ELO already did this in ‘Time’, segueing “21st Century Man” into 'Hold On Tight" avec la France lyrics. It all makes perfect sense!) ---
**Author:** ![Genghis\_Bob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Genghis\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Genghis_Bob)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/46 "2004-03-17T13:01:31Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > FTR, I have nothing against Mr. Seger. . . Damn! Didn’t you just post > [@](#): > > Bob fucking Seger? Bob like a cock Seger? > > You have got to be fucking kidding me! > > Bob Seger wishes he had 1/100th the talent of Jeff Lynne. > > Who’s next? Night Ranger? I’d hate to see what you say about somebody you **don’t** like! I’m a little surprised at the lack of support for Bob in this thread. Regardless of whether ELO got shafted, deserved to get in, and whether the concept of a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame even makes sense, given that there _is_ a Hall of Fame, Seger must be included. If only for (off the top of my head) Turn the Page, Night Moves, Rock 'n Roll Never Forgets, Beautiful Loser, Stranger in Town, Main Street, Get out of Denver, Roll Me Away. . . Even his “Little Drummer Boy”. That’s turned into my favorite overplayed Christmas song. Right up there with Springsteen’s “Santa Claus is Coming to Town.” Okay, yeah, disclaimer time. I’m from Detroit, so I **might** not be the most impartial observer . . . ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/47 "2004-03-17T23:18:56Z")
> [@rimshotgdansk](#): > > I’d hate to see what you say about somebody you **don’t** like! Well, this IS the Pit. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/48 "2004-03-17T23:36:30Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m a little surprised at the lack of support for Bob in this thread. I think that most of us who understand and appreciate blue collar Rock and Roll: 1. understand that the Hall of Fame is simply a way for some New York promoters to get their rocks off (and the promoters are _still_ mad that Cleveland stole the physical location out from under their intended scam); 2. understand that tastes (especially under the huge umbrella of Rock) differ widely and that peoiple who don’t get blue collar R&R can’t be persuaded to like it; 3. and that a lot of people invest _way_ too much energy in talking down stuff simply because they don’t personally enjoy it and that engaging them in intelligent discourse is a waste of time and electrons. Most of the complaints on this thread have been about the lack of 70s and 80s bands, but the Hall of Fame still hasn’t inducted Carole King, for example. The issue is not fairness, it is about whining that “my favorite” has not been inducted while somebody “I” didn’t particularly like has. - ::: shrug :::\* I don’t need to defend Bob Seger. People who recognize his quality will not be turned off by this rant and people who don’t enjoy him will not be persuaded of his quality by any claims I post. It is not possible to argue a person out of a position that he or she did not arrive at through reason. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/49 "2004-03-17T23:52:57Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > uh…_Scholz_…Tom _Scholz_ of Boston and the Rockman and all that other stuff. I screwed that up on purpose, to see who the real fans were! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/50 "2004-03-18T11:22:24Z")
> [@Myrr21](#): > > Man, this is an organization that picked the Mamas & the Papas and Bonnie Rait over Steely Dan and the Talking Heads. Who waited until their 7th year to add Jimi. But was he eligible before then? (Can’t remember right now when the HoF got started.) ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lodoen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b3f665/32.png) [@Jeff\_Lodoen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lodoen)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/51 "2004-03-18T23:11:32Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > But was he eligible before then? (Can’t remember right now when the HoF got started.) You are correct. No one can complain about that. “Hey Joe” was released in December 1966. The Jimi Hendrix Experience was inducted in 1992. You can see all inductees since 1986 (when it started) here [http://www.rockhall.com/hof/allinductees.asp](http://www.rockhall.com/hof/allinductees.asp) ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/52 "2004-03-19T01:17:59Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > I think that was just for comparison’s sake. I seriously doubt Hilary would do this song. Thank God. That scared me. ---
**Author:** ![hoopersnot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9e8a1a/32.png) [@hoopersnot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hoopersnot)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/53 "2004-03-19T02:49:53Z")
Not to worry people before it’s all said and done **EVERY** band, solo artist, pop star will be in. These people can’t get enough of praising and honoring themselves so until they run out, everyone has a chance regardless of talent. By the way has Budgie made it? Great Band! ---
**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/54 "2004-03-19T03:04:10Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > …but the Hall of Fame still hasn’t inducted Carole King, for example. They did add Gerry Goffin and Carole King in 1990 as non-performers, but not her as a solo songwriter or performer. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/55 "2004-03-19T03:25:07Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Oh - and while Mr. Blue Sky is a good song (and a wonderful Doper) - c’mon - ELO?! Honestly - who cares? The did Telephone Line and Medieval Woman - jeez, what crap. > . Medieval Woman?? Is _that_ what they were singing??? I just don’t understand lyrics… ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/56 "2004-03-19T03:38:47Z")
> [@](#): > > : Bonnie Raitt, Gene Pitney, James Taylor, Joni Mitchell, Etta James, Bobby Darin… You have a _problem_ with Etta James, James Taylor and Joni Mitchell? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/57 "2004-03-19T03:58:20Z")
> [@spooje](#): > > Medieval Woman?? > Is _that_ what they were singing??? > > I just don’t understand lyrics… (Even though I’m likely being whooshed) Uh, no. It’s “Evil Woman”. This is one of the most common misheard lyrics. ---
**Author:** ![zoogirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b9bd4f/32.png) [@zoogirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoogirl)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/58 "2004-03-19T04:39:03Z")
What!? No Alice Cooper?! Oh, wait. Looks like he’s got an exhibit anyway… Okay, carry on. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lodoen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b3f665/32.png) [@Jeff\_Lodoen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lodoen)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577/59 "2004-03-19T06:18:47Z")
> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#): > > You have a _problem_ with Etta James, James Taylor and Joni Mitchell? 😉 The initial J bugs me… Etta James: I will plead ignorance. Influential it would seem. The other two: I’m just a bitter. Hearing James Taylor hawk MCI (nee WorldCom) with his Marvin Gaye cover on TV all day is making me ill. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-invitation-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-to-suck-my-ass/234577.md?page=2)