# An old colleague of mine was voluntarily cannibalized and killed. TM friggin' I. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 3, 2003, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236 "2003-04-03T17:00:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Astralbovine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Astralbovine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astralbovine)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2003, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/101 "2003-04-05T18:09:57Z")
Aaaaaaaauuuuuuuughhhhhhh. And I thought Waita Uziga was fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2003, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/102 "2003-04-05T18:56:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by nitroglycerine \* > **Be honest now…how many of you, through morbid curiosity, want to see this video?** I have to admit, if it wasn’t someone I once knew, I would almost certainly at least start to watch it. But I guess I’ve finally found the line I will not cross. I cannot imagine watching this video, even though I only worked with the guy briefly about a decade ago. But if it was a perfect stranger… Yeah, I’d be lying if I said my morbid curiosity probably wouldn’t win that battle. I’m not proud of that fact, but I guess I’m not ashamed enough to deny it. ---
**Author:** ![Cavalier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/97f17d/32.png) [@Cavalier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cavalier)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2003, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/103 "2003-04-05T22:40:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by KCSuze \* > \*\*He was willing to _eat his own penis_! Is eating it raw the last line that no one will cross? > > And I mean no offesense when I ask this. How do you know the flesh was too tough when raw? \*\* [arminm.com](http://arminm.com) says they tried to eat it raw but had to cook it because it was too tough. Eating raw meat is difficult and unwise. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by EJsGirl \* > \*\*Whoa, the penis was flambeed? Did they have the Hibatchi right there in the room, or did they stop the bleeding of thie “victim” long enough for the cookout? \*\* ISTRI reading elsewhere that it was fried. He was still bleeding after they’d finished the meal. He sat in bath until he lost consciousness from loss of blood, then his throat was slashed. So he was still bleeding then. The victim’s other body parts were cooked on a BBQ in the garden, so maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2003, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/104 "2003-04-05T22:56:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cavalier \* > **Eating raw meat is difficult and unwise.** Yeah, good thing they didn’t indulge in any risky behaviour. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/105 "2003-04-06T01:10:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Astralbovine \* > \*\*Aaaaaaaauuuuuuuughhhhhhh. And I thought Waita Uziga was fucked up. \*\* I assumed Uziga was the Japanese guy who got away with murder, previously mentioned by \*\* Malthus\*\*, until I did a Google search on the name. Charming. ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/106 "2003-04-06T01:53:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Derleth \* > **If the person is happy being the King of All Rome and Atlantas, do we have the right to prescribe lithium salts?** Yes. Because there’s more to life than just being happy. You also have an obligation to be useful to your fellow humans and someone who is so deluded as to believe that he’s going to be Emperor of Antarctica isn’t going to do much that is useful to others. That was a delusion that mathematician John Nash once had, and he’s certainly glad today that he can do and teach math again. > [@](#): > > **Was the victim willing? To all outside appearances he was, but we can never know his mind when the final curtain fell. Was the victim insane? Yes, but insane doesn’t always meet the standard for incapacitated. (For example, Jeffrey Dahmer could probably have entered into a valid contract despite his sociopathy.)** If he is insane, then I think he falls into the category of being unable to make rational, reasonable decisions. I think self-consumption would never, not ever, be considered a rational act. > [@](#): > > \*\*Was this homicide? Well? I don’t think Kevorkian committed homicide, but the State of Oregon found differently. Similarly, I don’t think the cannibal committed homicide in this instance. The German courts may find differently. \*\* They may decide that the victim was unable to give meaningful consent because of mental defect and thus conclude that he was murdered, that he was NOT of sound mind when he wrote out his will. ---
**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/107 "2003-04-06T02:25:50Z")
> [@](#): > > Yeah, good thing they didn’t indulge in any risky behaviour. Well, you beat me to the punch for a smart-ass retort, **Revtim**. I mean, really. The man was willing to be literally led to slaughter, and in the process dine on his own genitalia. You’d think the dangers of uncooked meat would be the last thing on their minds. On the other hand, with these men, you never know. For the victim at least, it seems like the equivalent of ordering a low-fat last meal. And in this case it was his last meal. I know I’m babbling. It’s just that in a case like this it’s hard to know what the appropriate response is other than, “Jesus Christ on a Big Wheel!” Or words to that effect. ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/108 "2003-04-06T04:58:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Derleth \* > \*\*But remember: Cannibalism is only bizarre to us through historical accident. It is a cultural quirk that we _don’t_ routinely consume our enemies and/or revered dead. \*\* My understanding has been that it would be dangerous for a human population to try to sustain itself on human flesh. All kinds of nasty diseases would crop up. Cannibalism has only been practiced in limited ritual contexts. Let’s hope it’s a while before we see a thread that tops this one. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/109 "2003-04-06T06:14:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Spit \* > \*\*I love this quote from one of the neighbours: > > ## _snort_ > > On another note; where are the voices of dissent? Surely this must be one of those things that we are supposed to tolerate, right? It being a lifestyle (or lack thereof) choice and all… \*\* If you’re trying to compare this to people asking for understanding and compassion for gay rights… :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/110 "2003-04-06T06:44:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*If you’re trying to compare this to people asking for understanding and compassion for gay rights… > > :rolleyes: \*\* Who was the nutjob that used the term “deathstyle” to refer to homosexuality? I think that term actually applies here. ---
**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/111 "2003-04-06T06:47:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*If you’re trying to compare this to people asking for understanding and compassion for gay rights… > \*\* Um…so everyone else here saw that as the pseudo-joke it was, except for you? _pats Guin_ Don’t worry honey…You will pass **Handy** soon enough without all of the ‘rolleyes’ posts. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/112 "2003-04-06T13:02:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by chula \* > \*\*My understanding has been that it would be dangerous for a human population to try to sustain itself on human flesh. All kinds of nasty diseases would crop up. Cannibalism has only been practiced in limited ritual contexts. > > Let’s hope it’s a while before we see a thread that tops this one. \*\* I seem to recall hearing about mad-cow type type diseases (laughing sickness?) being much more common in cannibalistic cultures. I also wonder about the societal problems that would arise if your fellow neighbor could be considered a food source, and vice-versa, ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/113 "2003-04-06T13:15:58Z")
The “laughing sickness” I was referring to in my last post is called kuru. ---
**Author:** ![Madame\_Zelda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Madame\_Zelda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madame_Zelda)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/114 "2003-04-06T13:18:36Z")
I waited until today to reply to this OP, as I’ve been trying to wrap my head around it. Too. Freaking. Wierd. And. Gross. Needless to say, all meals since reading this have been suspended - possibly, indefinitely. And had nightmares all night long. Ick. Ick, ick, ick, ick. Not enough hot showers in the world to wash this off/out of me. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/115 "2003-04-06T14:42:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jab1 \* > \*\*Yes. Because there’s more to life than just being happy. \*\* I pity you. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Spit \* > \*\*Um…so everyone else here saw that as the pseudo-joke it was, except for you? > _pats Guin_ > > Don’t worry honey…You will pass **Handy** soon enough without all of the ‘rolleyes’ posts. 🙂 \*\* Hey, she’s got to get a post into every single thread on the boards, cut her some slack, that can’t be easy. ---
**Author:** ![Pablito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@Pablito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pablito)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/116 "2003-04-06T15:00:58Z")
I’m a little confused. How do we know that he ate his own penis? I just read the articles cited above, which indicate that he was castrated and that they fed on that. To me, that means testicles. So can I at least comfort myself by thinking that he ‘only’ ate his own balls, and not his penis as well? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/117 "2003-04-06T15:20:40Z")
Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/118 "2003-04-06T18:52:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Weirddave \* > \*\*Hey, she’s got to get a post into every single thread on the boards, cut her some slack, that can’t be easy. \*\* Tell me about it. I see threads, and I can’t think of a single thing to add, so I have to let it go…but Guin never let’s me down! She’s so cute…like a mascot or something. 🙂 _tickles Guin_ ---
**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/119 "2003-04-06T22:23:39Z")
So… I wonder what it tasted like? ---
**Author:** ![shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shrew)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2003, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236/120 "2003-04-06T22:51:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CalMeacham \* > \*\*I thought things were bad when I learned that the guy on the other side of the block my parents live on killed his girlfriend, dismembered her, and kept her head in his refrigerator. Amateur, obviously. This story is going in the part of my brain that only gets accessed when I least want it to be. When I’m in the middle of a lovely fantasy about Orlando Bloom…or when I’m trying to sleep alone in my flat and getting creeped out, I’m going to think of this freakdom. I will be forced to immediately extricate myself from bed to take a long scalding shower to rid myself of the mental wasps stinging me all over. :shudder: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-old-colleague-of-mine-was-voluntarily-cannibalized-and-killed-tm-friggin-i/166236.md?page=7)