# An open letter to President Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 20, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193 "2017-11-20T15:14:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/1 "2017-11-20T15:14:23Z")
Although it is an open letter, it’s too long to post here. So I’ll post a [link](http://politicsfinder.com/2017/11/19/viral-letter-trump-best/). It begins: > [@](#): > > Donald Trump, > > My family immigrated to the United States of America on the third boat after the Mayflower. Our heritage precedes any records of Trumps, or Drumpfs, in America. Members of my family have served in every major conflict in US history with the exception of Iraq; your family cannot say the same. Yet, you continue to act as if you’ve sacrificed for the betterment of our country when the reality is: we don’t even know you’ve paid taxes half the time. Instead of acknowledging your past though, and honorably promising to change from a position of great entitlement, you accost service members you don’t care for, threaten democracy with attacks on the media, and worsen divides that threaten to tear America apart. Sadly, the letter is more than 280 characters, which means that the addressee will never read it. (Not that he would understand what was written, nor care what was written, if he did read it.) ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/2 "2017-11-20T15:31:55Z")
I can edit it down as follows: “President Moron: You’re not fit to shovel shit from one place to another. Resign _now_, you callous incompetent buffoon.” Well under 280 characters. Cut. Paste. Light it on fire and hit SEND. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/3 "2017-11-20T15:41:52Z")
If that letter doesn’t make Trump resign, nothing will!! [This TV spot](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXl8vRmLeJk) has been playing non-stop in CA. Not sure if it’s getting air time in the rest of the country. Hard to fault the guy for sincerity, but I guess if you have money to burn… ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/4 "2017-11-20T15:48:48Z")
Yep. Playing frequently in Virginia. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/5 "2017-11-20T19:11:25Z")
It’s well written and I don’t have much to disagree with. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/6 "2017-11-20T19:13:20Z")
Playing regularly in OR. I think it’s nationwide. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/7 "2017-11-20T19:17:58Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > It’s well written and I don’t have much to disagree with. You’re too kind. I slaved over it for like 15-20 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/8 "2017-11-20T20:14:38Z")
> [@](#): > > I was born a white male and a citizen of The United States of America but I don’t think that makes me an American. There seems to be a lot of controversies swirling around this notion but the reality is being born a certain way entitles me to nothing. The circumstances of birth don’t make you American… Actually, yes they do. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/9 "2017-11-20T20:22:34Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Actually, yes they do. Unless, according to some, but not according to the U.S. Constitution, your parents are in the country illegally or are here legally, but they are residents of another country. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/10 "2017-11-20T20:23:44Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Actually, yes they do. > > Regards, > Shodan They can. In his case they do, but in other cases they don’t. Two of my grandparents were born in Europe, but they died US citizens. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/11 "2017-11-20T20:51:28Z")
_:shrugs:_ The letter claimed being born a citizen doesn’t make you an American. Yes, there are other ways of doing it, but being born a citizen makes you an American. Not serving in the military (in every war except Iraq), not helping old people vote, not revealing your tax returns. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Quatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@Mr\_Quatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Quatro)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/12 "2017-11-20T22:35:31Z")
You only need a one word letter, Dear Mr President, “Repent” sign it, seal it and send it … ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/13 "2017-11-20T23:27:55Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > _:shrugs:_ The letter claimed being born a citizen doesn’t make you an American. Yes, there are other ways of doing it, but being born a citizen makes you an American. Not serving in the military (in every war except Iraq), not helping old people vote, not revealing your tax returns. > > Regards, > Shodan On reading more of what he says, I’ll change my stance and agree with you. I see what he is trying to say, which is that being an “American” is about holding certain values, etc. But that’s simply not true. In fact, it is contrary to his larger thesis, and muddles his message. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/14 "2017-11-21T14:43:37Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > On reading more of what he says, I’ll change my stance and agree with you. Can he _ **do** _ that? :eek: Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/15 "2017-11-21T14:45:44Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Can he _ **do** _ that? :eek: > > Regards, > Shodan It was not a very wide stance to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/16 "2017-11-21T15:39:30Z")
Not exceptional. It mostly makes me think the same thing as I thought during the election: It would be nice if someone would write something actually analyzing Trump’s policy. Tell people that Trump’s an asshole and they’ll possibly agree with you, but still support the man. Tell them that he’s going to increase the deficit, get our soldiers killed, and cause mass unemployment, and people will start to listen. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/17 "2017-11-21T17:17:52Z")
[Mass unemployment](https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate) you say? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/18 "2017-11-21T17:23:34Z")
Isn’t “there’s a storm coming” supposed to be a white supremacist dog whistle? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/19 "2017-11-21T20:59:12Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > [Mass unemployment](https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate) you say? > > Regards, > Shodan Are you arguing that the current employment rate is due to Trump, or that it will continue to go up? I find both of those unlikely. I also didn’t say that Trump would cause mass unemployment. I said that it’s the sort of argument that would make people take notice. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193/20 "2017-11-22T13:35:21Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I also didn’t say that Trump would cause mass unemployment. I said that it’s the sort of argument that would make people take notice. I would think that if you say he is going to cause mass unemployment, and people see that there isn’t mass unemployment, they will notice that too. So it doesn’t seem to me to be the sort of argument you want to use. YMMV. Regards, Shodan [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-open-letter-to-president-trump/802193.md?page=2)