# An SDMB server: calling all Counter-Strike:Source players! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 19, 2004, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684 "2004-11-19T17:29:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/221 "2005-01-20T20:45:03Z")
But I am #1 with the TMP. I need to keep working that gun. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/222 "2005-01-20T20:49:08Z")
> [@adam yax](#): > > I swear that I am not as bad as the stats make me look. And I’m a lot worse than they make me look. You guys start too late for an old guy like me. I need my beauty sleep. I keep checking the server, seeing no one, and running for an alternate server. Maybe I should solo it, in order to improve my stats 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/223 "2005-01-20T20:58:11Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > And I’m a lot worse than they make me look. You guys start too late for an old guy like me. I need my beauty sleep. I keep checking the server, seeing no one, and running for an alternate server. Maybe I should solo it, in order to improve my stats 😃 I admit that I have done that. Play as a T when it is a bomb map and play as a CT when it is a hostage rescue map. If you are alone, you can’t lose!! Unless you grenade youself. I have been playing with bots recently and I now need to up their skill level to help myself improve. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/224 "2005-01-20T22:39:09Z")
I don’t think soloing like that would improve your stats - the game mode doesn’t actually start until there are two players on opposite sides. ---
**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/225 "2005-01-20T23:20:33Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > [http://70.84.17.164/css-stats/clan.php?id=91&psort=skill&porder=desc](http://70.84.17.164/css-stats/clan.php?id=91&psort=skill&porder=desc) > > Top! me! woot. > > Of course, that doesn’t factor in the 2-3 SDMB players hugely better than me that don’t wear their tag. Still, I wanted to brag a little during my brief moment on the sort-of top. > > There are so many players in the 995-1005 skill range that when I had 970 skill a week ago I was ranked like 800th, then improved that to 1070 and jumped to like 40th. I’ve improved it further still a bit. Well you’ve certainly got a healty number of kills, but don’t you think that K : D ratio is a much better indicator? I wonder: what is exactly is that skill rating based on? You have 87 more kills than me, but 191 more deaths. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/226 "2005-01-20T23:40:00Z")
I’m not sure what skill includes, exactly, but it includes such things as bomb planting, hostages rescuing, defusing, and takes into account the skill of the people you killed. Killing the number one ranked person gives more skill than killing someone ranked 500th. So even if we had the same amount of kills, my skill could be much higher because of that, and because of the other factors. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/227 "2005-01-20T23:46:22Z")
Also, you’ve logged more hours than me but have less kills, and the rate my factor. ---
**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/228 "2005-01-20T23:46:57Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Anyone up for an afternoon game? Or whatever time it happens to be right now where you are… > > Pop on and I’ll join you if anyone wants to start one. I’m willing to play when I get home from work (about 5:30 PST). I’ve missed out on the last couple sessions, so I feel a bit out of it (though I notice I’ve played for about 26hrs total). ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/229 "2005-01-20T23:48:15Z")
Rate may factor, that should be. Also, you suck. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/230 "2005-01-20T23:48:50Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > takes into account the skill of the people you killed. Killing the number one ranked person gives more skill than killing someone ranked 500th. That’s pretty nifty! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/231 "2005-01-21T15:03:34Z")
Woah, the stats page is fickle. I was ranked in the top 20, then I had 2 okay rounds (about 1:1 k:d) and 2 bad rounds (got my ass kicked) and I dropped from like 1200 to 900 skill. There’s no way 2 bad rounds offset my skill level that much… I mean, my k:d dropped from 1.00 to .99, big deal. Yet the skill loss is huge. I wonder what’s going on with that. ---
**Author:** ![Maxxxie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@Maxxxie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maxxxie)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/232 "2005-01-21T22:15:28Z")
**Beefy** , maybe you got your ass whooped by n00bs? 😉 I played with the CS: S bots last night. Heaps better than the CS: CZ bots, but… I _miss_ the CZ bots’ chatter: “I’m camping at A” “Me too!” “Arghhhhh! I need help here!!” “Good shot sir” “Owned!!!” and let’s not forget… “I am DANGEROUS!!!” Surely they could’ve added that 😛 Max. ---
**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/233 "2005-01-21T22:53:59Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Woah, the stats page is fickle. > > I was ranked in the top 20, then I had 2 okay rounds (about 1:1 k:d) and 2 bad rounds (got my ass kicked) and I dropped from like 1200 to 900 skill. There’s no way 2 bad rounds offset my skill level that much… I mean, my k:d dropped from 1.00 to .99, big deal. Yet the skill loss is huge. > > I wonder what’s going on with that. Haha. **Now** you question the stats program. 😃 Yeah, there’s something a little strange there. For one thing I’m the #1 SDMB player! Buckgully is certainly better than me if you look at the stats. He’s got 2.0 K: D ratio compared to my 1.14. Not to mention mske is ranked #3 and he’s at .68 K: D (no offense mske!) It must have to do with the weighting of ranking of players you kill. We were playing for a while with “Agent Plisskin” who is ranked overall as #2 (85-18). I killed him a number of times (possibly as much as 10). If it does figure skill like that, I probably got a huge boost from killing the #2 ranked player so many times. I say we only focus on (for general bragging purposes at least), the Kill to Death ratio. It’s always been the traditional standard in Counter-Strike. On another note, let’s hear it for Inle-Rah, poised to be the first to break the 1000 mark! [ahem, he’s already passed in a different catagory]. ---
**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/234 "2005-01-21T23:03:53Z")
By the way, although Dust2 is the worst offender in terms of CT/T win record, Terrorists have only won on Dust2 58% of the time. All maps put together, Terrorists win 52% of the time (2545/4877), so it’s only a deviation of 6% ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/235 "2005-01-21T23:24:27Z")
Well, in the rounds where I got my ass kicked, we’re talking about a total of getting killed maybe 30 times… 30 times compared to my 700 kills and deaths or whatever I have is insignificant and certainly shouldn’t swing my skill that much. I can only guess maybe it ranks skill based on the last X days, rather than in total. I’ll look through the documentation. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/236 "2005-01-21T23:27:36Z")
My bad about dust. For some reason I had it in my head that there was at least a 1.5:1 ratio… I can attempt to balance dust2 somehow… you can create server config files that execute on a per-map basis… so I could, for instance, turn the bomb timer on only dust2 up to a minute, to give CTs a bit of an edge. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/237 "2005-01-22T01:12:46Z")
Alright you dirty, dirty hippies… game on. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/238 "2005-01-22T18:42:35Z")
Good news. I’ve been hesitant about using bots because they could dilute the purity of the stats… but I found an option in the stats program that will ignore bot-related stuff. There’s also a bot\_quota command… so you can set it up for 8 players/bots, and if you have 2 players, you’ll get 6 bots… and when a player joins, a bot leaves… we could use that to try to encourage games to start up. ---
**Author:** ![buckgully](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@buckgully](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buckgully)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/239 "2005-01-22T18:44:52Z")
Wow! I had a 2:1 kill ratio? Weird. I didn’t think it was that good last time I played, and I haven’t played in a while. Those Dust2 stats are interesting. What I’d really like to see is a graph of wins per number of players. Dust2 is pretty even when there are only a few players on, but if there are more than about 10 players per side then it gets a lot harder for the CTs. Though that new map we played last night, tides? tidal? whatever, it may take the prize for most unbalanced map. Way too many routes for the CTs to give proper cover. The only way we (CTs) could win was to incessantly camp the CT spawn. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684/240 "2005-01-22T20:36:23Z")
Game going now. Feel free to pop on. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-server-calling-all-counter-strike-source-players/275684.md?page=13)