# An SDMB test of astral projection

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 3, 2003, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696 "2003-12-03T12:34:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/121 "2003-12-11T22:44:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by glee \*  
> \*\*  
> 2.\<snip\> I have allocated each object a number, rolled a 12 sided dice, and stuck a yellow post-it note on the chosen object (with the words ‘this one’ on the post-it).
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> \*\*

Based on this I’ll guess that one of the objects is a small lead figurine of a dwarven cleric.

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**Author:** ![IWLN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@IWLN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IWLN)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/122 "2003-12-11T23:15:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by glee \*
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> 1. Thanks for the guesses - psychic or non-psychic?  
> Oh, and is the metal sculpture your guess of the item with the post-it? (If not, what does ‘this one’ mean?)

Psychic, sure. But I reserve the right to be wrong about the beans. That may have just been you thinking about lunch when I was reading your mind.😉 Doesn’t the sticky note still say “this one”? Anyway, yes that was my pick.

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> 1. I am being quite careful these days. I don’t put extra objects on the computer desk, and only enter the room fully clothed. (You can never tell who is viewing :eek: )

You looked really hot in the underwear with the IPU’s on them. :o

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/123 "2003-12-11T23:57:53Z")

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As my profile states my interests are ‘Chess, AD+D and computer games’, it is a reasonable assumption I am male.  
And that is indeed correct.

I have never met cityboy916, and only recently saw his postings on the SDMB.

I think IWLN is female, which would be a relief, since I have a teeny suspicion that she is flirting…

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> \*Originally posted by IWLN \*  
> Psychic, sure. But I reserve the right to be wrong about the beans. That may have just been you thinking about lunch when I was reading your mind.😉 Doesn’t the sticky note still say “this one”? Anyway, yes that was my pick. You looked really hot in the underwear with the IPU’s on them. :o

Just to clear up a few points arising:

- I do not have Sherlock Holmesian powers concerning women (to put it mildly :smack: ), so if IWLN is **not** flirting, I immediately withdraw\*

- I do not have underwear with invisible pink unicorns on (and if I did, how would you know? 😕 ). One of my happily-married mates has told me his wife buys him underwear with toy trains on - the theory is that he will be too embarrassed to cheat on her!

- I do like baked beans (but they are an English staple, after all)

\*yes, I do know what a double entendre is!

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/124 "2003-12-12T01:03:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Musicat \*  
> \*\ ***Mosier** – **CityBoy916** has already said that he can easily find **glee’s** house. I assume astral projection works somewhat differently than a google search on the keyword “glee.” In any case, it’s all part of the test – find the right desk and view it. A failure to describe the correct object will be a failure of the whole test, whether it was because of the wrong desk, the wrong object, or an inability to astrally project at all. \*\*

I know, I just felt the need to slip in a prediction that most of us are already thinking. 🙂

**CityBoy916** - Good luck. Dont mistake my negative prediction for actually hoping you fail, because I’m as eager and anxious as the next guy. I just happen to think it wont work.

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**Author:** ![IWLN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@IWLN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IWLN)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/125 "2003-12-12T01:09:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by glee \*  
> I think IWLN is female, which would be a relief, since I have a teeny suspicion that she is flirting…
> 
> - I do not have Sherlock Holmesian powers concerning women (to put it mildly :smack: ), so if IWLN is **not** flirting, I immediately withdraw\*
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> \*yes, I do know what a double entendre is!

Awwwhhh bung!!!, he’s on to me.:eek: (she quietly retreats and ponders the double entendre)

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**Author:** ![The\_EnglishMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_EnglishMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_EnglishMan)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/126 "2003-12-12T03:40:58Z")

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I studied this for over 15 years when I had what I thought was an OOBE. I have never found anyone who has been able to successfully Astrally Project to where they have been able to deduce what someone else is doing, or has ‘placed’ somewhere etc. with any clarity. At best, people who believe they Astrally Project, or can force OOBE’s, are actually ‘dream-walkers’ (as I call them), and have a remarkable ability to remember things we catch in our periphrial vision etc., and have a good grasp of general geography and sociology/psychology. They don’t have to be experts… just the better they are at these things, the better they seem to be at “projecting”.

I have, and there are, theories as to my own experience, and to that of others, but when I have taken them to places that profess to actually accomplish such things, I find them to be in complete denial.

I too predict this test will either never succeed, or actually ever really take place due to the apparent untimelyness of said ability, and any close success that is claimed will only be made through generalities and good guessing.

Being psychic myself, that is my prediction 🙂

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**Author:** ![Somnambulist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Somnambulist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Somnambulist)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/127 "2003-12-12T16:33:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by glee \*  
> \*\*  
> P.S. Bung in **your** control guesses! \*\*

OK…

1. Box of matches (Swan Vesta)
2. Blue teapot
3. Paperclip model of a box-girder bridge
4. Can of Red Bull
5. Corgi James Bond Aston Martin DB5 (minus passenger, last seen 1972)
6. Plastic fried egg (“This One”)
7. Hawkwind CD
8. Cricket bat
9. Copy of Financial Times (with half completed cryptic crossword)
10. Kylie Minogue
11. Jar of Marmite
12. Night vision goggles

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/128 "2003-12-12T18:50:03Z")

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Don’t forget, **Somnambulist,** and everyone else that is submitting object lists, that **glee** wants to know if you are claiming a psychic source or not.

And I don’t believe anyone has yet linked to this, a staff report by **Doug** : [Is it possible to do “astral traveling” while sleeping?](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mastral.html)

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**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/129 "2003-12-12T18:57:03Z")

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Hee hee. Given the creative sense of humor of the SDMB members, I have a suspicion that the hit rate of the “control group” is going to be astoundingly low.

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**Author:** ![IWLN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@IWLN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IWLN)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/130 "2003-12-12T19:08:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Algernon \*  
> \*\*Hee hee. Given the creative sense of humor of the SDMB members, I have a suspicion that the hit rate of the “control group” is going to be astoundingly low. \*\*

Hey!!! Are you trying to say he doesn’t have Pork 'n Beans on his desk? If he does, are you going to claim it’s a lucky guess?😉 You both forgot to put down your 12 objects.

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**Author:** ![The\_EnglishMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_EnglishMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_EnglishMan)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/131 "2003-12-12T20:04:50Z")

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I guess I shold add my ‘gueses’ too… and I’ll let _you_ guess if I’m Psychic or not:

1. Something long
2. Something with some red on it
3. Something so personal that it was too bright to look at - and was obstructing my view of some of the objects.
4. A picture with a person in it
5. Some other thing
6. A thing I think is a thing, but may be some other thing
7. Nothing
8. Something too small to make out
9. Another thing next to #2 that looks like #5
10. a 1920’s reproduction Black Ford Sedan with Chrome lights, a PVC interior, real glass in the windows, running boards, working pedals and steering, and a little plastic man wearing a shirt and tie in the style of the times, with the letters G.R monogramed on the breast pocket of the little suit, rosey cheeks, and crossed eyes
11. A round thing
12. Something that isn’t actually yours

The sticky isn’t yours either, you took it from someone else 'cos you didn’t have any.  
Wasn’t as hard as I thought… must have been a tantric moment 🙂

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/132 "2003-12-12T21:28:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The EnglishMan \*  
> I guess I shold add my ‘gueses’ too… and I’ll let _you_ guess if I’m Psychic or not:
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> 1. Something long
> 2. Something with some red on it
> 3. Something so personal that it was too bright to look at - and was obstructing my view of some of the objects.
> 4. A picture with a person in it
> 5. Some other thing
> 6. A thing I think is a thing, but may be some other thing
> 7. Nothing
> 8. Something too small to make out
> 9. Another thing next to #2 that looks like #5…

Hey! Stop looking at **my** desk! You’re so close, it’s uncanny!

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/133 "2003-12-12T23:10:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by KidCharlemagne \*  
> \*\*Based on this I’ll guess that one of the objects is a small lead figurine of a dwarven cleric. \*\*

That really made me laugh out loud.

On to the matter at hand… I haven’t the time to tell you all twelve objects but “This One” is a slightly used condom.

And yes, I am a psycic. One who spells well, at that.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/134 "2003-12-13T07:59:12Z")

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A remote control  
A telephone  
an LOTR calendar  
a jar of pens  
a dictionary  
a granite paperweight  
a calculator  
A phone book  
A flashlight  
A pencil sharpener  
A novelty “fart in a can”  
A bag of weed

The post it is on the calander.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/135 "2003-12-13T12:37:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by IWLN \*  
> \*\*Awwwhhh bung!!!, he’s on to me.:eek: (she quietly retreats and ponders the double entendre) \*\*

Dear IWLN,

it may have escaped your notice that your post aboves combines the two phrases ‘double entendre’ and 'he’s on to me.:eek: '. 😉

Now of course there is a **perfectly innocent explanation** for this, and I make no assertion otherwise. 🆒

If, however, there is going to be a flirting hijack of a serious testing thread, then I can only say … you have got my e-mail address, haven’t you?! 😃

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**Author:** ![Psychoticpsymon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b5a626/32.png) [@Psychoticpsymon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Psychoticpsymon)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/136 "2003-12-13T21:03:28Z")

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I live vicariously through people! ::D:

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**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/137 "2003-12-14T03:07:26Z")

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I’m coming into the mix a little late. Has anything transpired? It may be too late for yet another suggestion, but here goes. The one fairly credible report of astrial projection was in a hospital. The traveler(?) was near the ceiling, and read the serial number & brand name of a warming hood. No one had looked at it since installation, since it took a big ladder to access it. **Glee** do you have a book case that is tall enough that whatever object you choose would be undisturbed for as long as necessary?  
Sorry if I’m barging in, late and loud 🙂

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/138 "2003-12-14T03:40:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by picunurse \*  
> I’m coming into the mix a little late. Has anything transpired? It may be too late for yet another suggestion, but here goes. The one fairly credible report of astrial projection was in a hospital. The traveler(?) was near the ceiling, and read the serial number & brand name of a warming hood. No one had looked at it since installation, since it took a big ladder to access it.

And we have your firsthand experience as proof? No? You say it was a story told to you by your uncle’s cousin’s best friend? And he never lies? That’s good enough for me. No need to continue THIS test – we have a winner!

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> **Glee** do you have a book case that is tall enough that whatever object you choose would be undisturbed for as long as necessary?

And why would that be any better than an undisturbed object on a desk? We aren’t trying to make it difficult for **CityBoy916,** we want to make it as easy as possible without permitting fraud.

So far, if you’re keeping score, **CityBoy916** has accepted the terms and conditions, **David B** has received the list of objects from **glee** , and we are waiting for **CityBoy916** to take a trip and report back. It might be a long wait as there is no time limit for this test, so pull up a lawn chair and have a nice big piece of pie.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/139 "2003-12-14T03:45:21Z")

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Almost forgot – while we’re waiting, **IWLN** and **glee** are off in the corner getting acquainted, if you know what I mean. 😉 😉

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**Author:** ![IWLN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@IWLN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IWLN)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-sdmb-test-of-astral-projection/216696/140 "2003-12-14T14:54:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by glee \*  
> \*\*Dear IWLN,
> 
> it may have escaped your notice that your post aboves combines the two phrases ‘double entendre’ and 'he’s on to me.:eek: '. 😉
> 
> Now of course there is a **perfectly innocent explanation** for this, and I make no assertion otherwise. 🆒
> 
> If, however, there is going to be a flirting hijack of a serious testing thread, then I can only say … you have got my e-mail address, haven’t you?! 😃 \*\*

Of course there’s a perfectly innocent explanation for this. I’m just waiting for **Cityboy** to astrally project and then I’ll let you have it.😉 (you are aware we’re causing talk, quick think of something to distract them)

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> \*Originally posted by Psychoticpsymon \*  
> \*\*I live vicariously through people! ::D: \*\*

Me too! Myself included, apparently.

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> \*Originally posted by Musicat \*  
> \*\*Almost forgot – while we’re waiting, **IWLN** and **glee** are off in the corner getting acquainted, if you know what I mean. 😉 😉 \*\*

He who has IPU in garage should watch his step.😛  
Okay you voyeurs, post your 12 items for the experiment. All these smilies are giving me the willies.

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