# Anachronisms in everyday speech **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 19, 2007, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315 "2007-10-19T18:00:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jimmmy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/73ab20/32.png) [@jimmmy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimmmy)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/41 "2007-10-20T18:02:42Z")
Thanks Johnny and Thudlow that makes sense ---
**Author:** ![Julius\_Henry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@Julius\_Henry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Julius_Henry)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/42 "2007-10-20T18:18:26Z")
I have more than one podcast host reminding me at the end of episodes to “stay tuned” for a future episode. I have no idea how to “tune” my iPod. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/43 "2007-10-20T18:41:22Z")
[QUOTE=Julius Henry] I have more than one podcast host reminding me at the end of episodes to “stay tuned” for a future episode. I have no idea how to “tune” my iPod. [/QUOTE] You can get an FM Tuner for iPods, actually. 😃 [QUOTE=Thudlow Boink] I think the point is that you probably have watched a video—just a video disc rather than a videotape. “Video” in the pure sense just means something you watch. Somewhere along the line, “video” came to be the shortened word for “video tape” or “video cassette,” but it doesn’t have to mean that. [/QUOTE] Wait… this means that film is video too, right? I always just interpreted video as “moving pictures on a digital format”, as opposed to film, which would be moving pictures in a non-digital format. Is there an actual distinction between film and video? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/44 "2007-10-20T18:52:29Z")
[QUOTE=Raguleader] Wait… this means that film is video too, right? I always just interpreted video as “moving pictures on a digital format”, as opposed to film, which would be moving pictures in a non-digital format. Is there an actual distinction between film and video? [/QUOTE] I suspect **Mr. Boink** was just being a little pedantic there. 😉 ‘Film’ is a transparent medium through which light is passed to project an image onto a screen. ‘Video’ (i.e., videotape or video disc) is a medium from which an analogue or digital signal is read from magnetic tape or a digital storage device such as a DVD. If you shoot something with a film camera (16mm, 35mm, super-8, for example) you’re ‘filming’ it. If you use a video recorder that stores the signal on tape you’re ‘taping’ it. If you’re storing the signal on a writable DVD or other non-tape digital medium you’re ‘recording’ it. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/45 "2007-10-20T19:12:57Z")
[QUOTE=Johnny L.A.] I suspect **Mr. Boink** was just being a little pedantic there. 😉 ‘Film’ is a transparent medium through which light is passed to project an image onto a screen. ‘Video’ (i.e., videotape or video disc) is a medium from which an analogue or digital signal is read from magnetic tape or a digital storage device such as a DVD. If you shoot something with a film camera (16mm, 35mm, super-8, for example) you’re ‘filming’ it. If you use a video recorder that stores the signal on tape you’re ‘taping’ it. If you’re storing the signal on a writable DVD or other non-tape digital medium you’re ‘recording’ it. [/QUOTE] Even though the camcorder doesn’t use vinyl as it’s recording medium? 😃 Yeah yeah, I know, 72’s are simply vinyl audio records, and the term “record” applies to anything you use to store information in, up to and including slabs of clay or scratched rocks. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/46 "2007-10-21T10:25:02Z")
[QUOTE=scr4] I don’t get paid in salt, but I still refer to my _salary_. I also talk about whether someone’s worth their salt. [/QUOTE] Nobody was ever paid in salt, and that is not where the word “salary” comes from. There is a thread about it, or you could check the OED. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/47 "2007-10-21T11:00:41Z")
[QUOTE=Zsofia] Myself, I’m always directing patrons to look stuff up in the card catalogue. I don’t even notice it, but some of the kids look at me like I suddenly grew another head. [/QUOTE] You and I would get on just fine; I’ve been known to ask librarians, “Where is a computer I can use to look at the card catalog?” ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/48 "2007-10-21T18:22:19Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] You and I would get on just fine; I’ve been known to ask librarians, “Where is a computer I can use to look at the card catalog?” [/QUOTE] Heh, when I worked in a library, we had a computer system called “Cardcat” for cataloguing the books. We always refered to it as “Cardcat” (since that’s the name of the icon the patron would have to click on anyways to open it up) when talking about it, so one day when I was talking to a friend, and she mentioned that I could look something up in the “Card Catalogue”, I was at a loss as to what she was talking about for a short while. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/49 "2007-10-21T21:04:24Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > Seriously, this sort of folk etymology can be attractive - but this sense of “poop” didn’t enter the language until the thirties, and the phrase “the devil to pay” had been in use for almost two hundred years before the word “devil” has been recorded in connection with the seam of a ship. [assorted etymological feats follow] You are my hero. > [@AtomicDog](#): > > It was just the popping and clicking associated with old, well-worn records. Oh, _that_! OK, that makes more sense. > [@Johnny L.A.](#): > > If you shoot something with a film camera (16mm, 35mm, super-8, for example) you’re ‘filming’ it. If you use a video recorder that stores the signal on tape you’re ‘taping’ it. If you’re storing the signal on a writable DVD or other non-tape digital medium you’re ‘recording’ it. In my limited experience in the world of (independent) filmmaking, those three verbs are often interchangeable in practice. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/50 "2007-10-21T21:27:50Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] In my limited experience in the world of (independent) filmmaking, those three verbs are often interchangeable in practice. [/QUOTE] I think it’s becoming more common now. Indie filmmakers are turning mroe and more to digital video, and they make ‘films’. Even though the images are recorded digitally, the finished product is a ‘film’. (Subtle difference.) Saying ‘I’m making a video’ has a different connotation. When I started making films we used super-8. The first indie feature I worked on was shot on 16mm. Younger filmmakers may never have seen an actual film camera in real life. But since they’re making a ‘film’, they’re ‘filming’ a scene. I have nine 16mm cameras, but only one DV camera; so I still make the distinction. Edit: Which is to say that’s why ‘filming’ is an anachronism in the spirit of the OP. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/51 "2007-10-22T00:28:16Z")
To Spend A Penny ---
**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/52 "2007-10-22T00:58:21Z")
In a slightly different sense, although I say I’ve been gypped by somebody, I’ve never actually met a real gypsy. ---
**Author:** ![MissGypsy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@MissGypsy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissGypsy)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/53 "2007-10-22T02:28:18Z")
[QUOTE=Speaker for the Dead] In a slightly different sense, although I say I’ve been gypped by somebody, I’ve never actually met a real gypsy. [/QUOTE] Pleased to meet you. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/54 "2007-10-22T04:36:51Z")
Ah hah! How exciting. I wish I had a verb named after me… I guess “Canadian” is too clunky. “Rickety” is another term that is totally divorced from its literal meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315/55 "2007-10-22T05:37:58Z")
After I shot the bastard, he thanked me. He even sent a card a few weeks later saying how grateful he was for the whole learning experience. I totally got canucked. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anachronisms-in-everyday-speech/423315.md?page=2)