# And again -- who IS Sarah Palin **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 2, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686 "2008-09-02T15:30:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/181 "2008-09-04T14:11:08Z")
> [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](#): > > Here’s what some conservatives think of her [when they think the mic is off.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDBW0SbDxPo) Wow!:eek: The sad thing is, people will believe the spin control the GOP will put on this. ---
**Author:** ![vison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e47774/32.png) [@vison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vison)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/182 "2008-09-04T16:55:25Z")
Can someone tell me why the “right” was foaming at the mouth and saying really nasty things about poor little Jamie Lynn Spears and now they are just fine with this Bristol child as Daughter of the Second Family, a role model for young women in America? Although truthfully I wouldn’t know Ms. Spears if she jumped up and bit me on the ankle, I think she got trashed awfully severely when her pregnancy was announced. And her mother!!! My god, her mother practically had battery acid poured over her. The foaming-at-the-mouth and spittle-flecked condemnation of that family! I think that what the Democrats have to learn to do is the “denial” and “refuse to admit” dance the Republicans do so very well. If a criticism is made about a Democrat, or some unpleasant fact surfaces, the Democrats persist in trying explain the situation, they persist in trying to make people understand - they act and speak as if they are rational themselves and expect that everyone else is. The Republicans know better. They know what the attention span of the “average Joe” is. They GET it. They have complete and utter contemptible confidence that people really are that stupid. Millions of them have the attention span of gnats - and millions of them don’t really care about the serious issues facing the USA, they want reassurance and comfort and the happy certainty that things are going to chug along as they always have. I really hope the Democrats get this now. The gloves are off, like in a hockey game - and I hope the Democrats have learned from the Republicans, who play the dirtiest hockey I’ve ever seen. The Broad Street Bullies and all the other hockey goons I’ve seen have nothing on these people. In Canada the words “hockey mom” are a code. The code means: the kind of mother every coach dreads, who is delusional about her son’s ability and NEVER stops demanding that he get more playing time. Who sees the kid as a ticket to big money in the NHL. The kind of mother who screams at her son to “spear the little bastard” when he’s on the ice. The kind of mother who is glad to see her son’s rival lying on the ice with a concussion, who has no qualms about seeing her son injure another player, and who is GLAD he injures the other player if it takes him out of the game. Now it may be that up there in Alaska the words “hockey mom” mean something else. But I don’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/183 "2008-09-04T17:02:33Z")
You know, there is a certain irony in watching supporters of known plagiarist Joe Biden complain that Sarah Palin’s words were not her own! ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/184 "2008-09-04T17:05:59Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > Sorry to take so long to answer, when I got on earlier, I could only read, whenever I tried to reply I got a big blank page. Not even a 404 error! 🙂 > > I’m not sure where you got “…you believe in trickle-down…” merely from me describing how the rich pile onto those below. I am certainly not a believer that the opposite (that is, that they also pass on good money times as well) is necessarily automatically true. Though Ben and Jerry’s are(is?) certainly one exception I can name. > > As to the “shit rolls downhill” sentiment that’s just plain ole’ human nature, there isn’t anything “policy” about it. > > Regardless of how much the rich have, or do not have their _spending_ (I’m quite sure they won’t allow more taxes to determine whether they upgrade to a bigger yacht or not), affected, their income will still be affected, and I’d bet dollars to donuts, that loopholes or no, they’ll pass that right on down the hill regarding their companies, the wages they pay, who gets axed and who doesn’t, etc. > > Based upon Obama’s ideas (obtained thanks to the doper who provided me with his website) and what I’ve heard him say several times throughout this campaign, his plans are to tax the holy hell out of everyone making so much as a crumb above minimum wage. > I think your link got eaten or something, because there was only one sentence with a short definition, but no explanation of the trickle up theory in this article. Do you have a better link to the rest of it? Or perhaps better eyes, (I looked for a link to a second page, or a “for the rest click here” but didn’t see it). But thanks for posting the link! I did read it. > > Shayna, your post skates awfully close to calling someone a liar. Your links to one of my posts state how much Alaskans hate the good ole boy network of Republican business as usual, I’m not sure how that is supposed to “prove” my non non-partisanship. The post is regarding why Sarah is so popular here, because she ousted an actual high and mighty, in the pocket of special interests Republican. I don’t remember what she beat him by, but it wasn’t pretty. My support of her over a dyed in the wool pubbie is hardly “proof” I’m not non-partisan. > > As for the other, Michelle Obama, the pastor, and others have made many very bitter, angry hateful statements. I am basing this upon their own words, not the media’s. How is calling them to task on their poor statements and attitude “hate-filled”? Their attitude and words are wrong. Period. I don’t hate them for being wrong, but it is a serious concern if they really feel the way they say they do, and even more of a concern if Obama also believes the same way. As to hate-filled, if a 20 year advisor and pastor stated such sentiments about others as his preacher did, I’d instantly say "seeya, sorry I’m not going to associate with someone who believes and acts the way you do. > > When did it become “hate-filled” to call to task those who are proponents of hate? > To both you and Shayna. There is no reason to be childish and rude. This isn’t the pit. Nor is there any reason to be illogical, of **course** I do not think that I’ll be out in the street, and no one would WANT my clothes (well except maybe for the Pink Panther lounge pants, I’d definitely fight the red army for those!). But at the rate of tax increase Obama is planning, again, based upon all of the programs he wants to put into place (from his own website), particularly in his two most recent speeches, the one in Germany and the acceptance speech), it may very well be enough of a financial detriment to cause many of us to be forced to move to cheaper housing, drastically cut back and so on. > > I’m single (and wrinkled, ancient, fat, and hideous to boot:D, so likely won’t attract a hubby to help me in the future either!), so I’m already in one of the hardest hit tax groups (the single one, not the ancient hideous one), add in the taxes Obama has planned and life will likely go from finally Okay to markedly unpleasant in no time. > > And no, I do not believe that the same applies to McCain re: taxes. And I also don’t think this is so because Obama is a democrat, I voted for Clinton, and was doing alright under his administration. Conversely I did terribly financially speaking under George Sr’s, and didn’t vote for him. I don’t believe this is a dem vs. pub thing regarding the tax aspect, I believe, based upon his own words that it’s an Obama thing. And that is the largest part of what has me fearful of him as potential president. > > Interestingly, I work in an industry that generally does very well under dem rule, the environmental industry (no, not the bunny hugging, diesel powered boat driving morons of green peace, the real ones the ones who actually go sample the contaminated sites and do the cleanup, plant trees where old landfills once existed etc), dems tend to dump tons of money into government programs to spank the evil bad military and oil companies, programs for which we Enviro Sci/tech type companies get contracts. But even with the fact that our industry tends to thrive under dem rule, I am STILL that frightened of Obama as president. Obama is not planning a huge tax raise., But do you have any plans for the national debt. Clinton fixed it and the cut taxes and spend repubs screwed it up again. It jeopardizes the financial structure of the nation. Just the interest on the national debt will cripple us for years. Do you think a 10 billion dollar a month war should be a free ride? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/185 "2008-09-04T17:06:32Z")
Ah…the false Biden “plagiarism” accusation. An oldy but an oldy. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/186 "2008-09-04T17:16:41Z")
**CanvasShoes,** you’re seriously buying into a line of bullshit if you believe Obama’s tax plan will hurt you. [Here’s the AFL-CIO](http://blog.aflcio.org/2008/09/04/obamas-tax-plan-better-for-working-families-than-mccains) debunking that with a nice little graphic to boot. There’s even a [handy tax estimator](http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/) that allows you to figure up your estimated taxes under the Obama plan–try it,then get back to us on the results. Obama also wants to end the Iraq war, freeing up something like 120 billion dollars a year to use for something useful and worthwhile. The bottom line is that Bush and McCain want to give tax cuts to the wealthiest people in the country, and to corporations. The reason for this is simple–they’re both rich as hell and all their families and friends own corporations. Under Bush, the [disparity between the highest and lowest paid employees](http://www.portfolio.com/interactive-features/2007/06/salary_comparison) of most corporations has grown incredibly, but the problem is that rich people are miserably bad at keeping money moving. See, everybody has the same physical needs–we all need to eat our three meals a day, we need a roof over our heads, we need to get around. Rich people can’t eat more than poor people, they can only occupy one bed in a night and they can only drive one car at a time–therefore they can’t really spend the high amounts of money they receive in any meaningful way. They can only spend MORE to buy the same basic amounts of stuff the rest of us do. The economy is infinitely better off if millions of people have a few thousand more dollars to spend in a year than if a few hundred rich people have many more millions. The middle class and poor people will spread that money around to local businesses, small charities, they will keep the economy moving at the ground level and keep the money circulating. Rich people who have too much money just stash it away, making it less available for the economy to use. Or they put it into the stock market, which again doesn’t do much for the basic economy–it only makes shareholders happy, and they tend to reinvest it in the market again. Don’t buy the bullshit, economically speaking John McCain is NOT your friend. Rich people cry about how “unfair” higher tax brackets for them are, but the plain fact is that money is different depending on how much you have. Consider the difference ten percent makes for someone who has ten dollars to last the week compared to someone with a hundred, a thousand, ten thousand, etc. When you put it in those terms, you see that the person at the very bottom will be hungry at the end of the week, a couple of people in the middle might be hungry at the end of the week, but at the higher end there’s effectively no difference if you take away ten percent–and who really wants to argue what’s “fair” when you look at it in those terms? The person with ten grand to make it to Friday is an asshole if they’re making a big deal out of only having to get by on nine grand–but that thousand bucks could double the income of a hundred people who only have ten bucks. And that’s what society is all about. Saying, y’know, I _could_ buy another boat to go along with the one I already own or another car or a 10000 sf house because my 8000 sf house just isn’t big enough for me–or I could scale back so little that I’ll never even miss it and help out a whole buncha people who aren’t doing as well as I am. Shit, even if the only motive is to prevent poor people from breaking in and stealing your shit or mugging you every time you go out, it’s still a sensible thing to do. And this attitude isn’t just for the rich–I’m on unemployment right now and haven’t had health insurance for years, but when the Oregon Health Plan opened up a lottery to take in 3000 new patients, I didn’t even apply for it, simply because I’m in pretty good health overall and there are thousands out there who need it more than I do. Am I entitled to apply? Absolutely. Do I pay taxes to support the OHP? You bet I do. But is it RIGHT for a healthy person to take up a slot that could be used for someone with chronic life threatening conditions? Not in my book, but that’s why I’m Democrat. Get beyond the talking points and you’ll notice that the McCain campaign and the Republicans have NO FACTS to back up their assertions that Obama’s going to tax us all into the poorhouse. To put it into the simplest possible terms, they are LYING. But don’t take my word on it–can we agree that the [Wall Street Journal](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122049208223297697.html?mod=googlenews_wsj)might be a good source for knowledge regarding money matters? I’m assuming anyone smart enough to be on this board is also smart enough to do some very basic research and not unthinkingly buy into every snotty talking point a losing politician throws out to try to sway the low information voters. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, and Obama’s basic tax plan has been readily available on his website for over a year, it has been praised by many responsible people whose entire job it is to juggle figures and get the right answer, and the Republicans are offering nothing to accurately refute Obama’s claim that his tax plan will help the vast majority of Americans. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/187 "2008-09-04T17:42:30Z")
> [@vison](#): > > In Canada the words “hockey mom” are a code. The code means: the kind of mother every coach dreads, who is delusional about her son’s ability and NEVER stops demanding that he get more playing time. Who sees the kid as a ticket to big money in the NHL. The kind of mother who screams at her son to “spear the little bastard” when he’s on the ice. The kind of mother who is glad to see her son’s rival lying on the ice with a concussion, who has no qualms about seeing her son injure another player, and who is GLAD he injures the other player if it takes him out of the game. > > Now it may be that up there in Alaska the words “hockey mom” mean something else. But I don’t think so. Damn, that’s a killer analysis, well done! As for the rest of your post, although I can’t disagree with your view on Republican tactics, I have to go along with Obama’s tactic of raising the level of discourse and doing things a better way. The problem with the Republican tactics is that they’re all about WINNING. Obama’s tactics are all about FIXING WHAT’S BROKEN. He wants to govern, McCain wants to win the election. It’s patently obvious when you look at their relative stances on issues–McCain has nothing beyond the shallowest of talking points–there’s no substance to his plans. If he wins, he just sits behind the desk and the REAL work gets done by the same slate of Republican operatives that run things right now. Same with Palin–they’re not concerned about her inability to be an effective president or VP, because to them it’s not necessary–they have people to do that for the figureheads. What the Dems and Obama are doing right now has nothing to do with swaying those hardcore fundie, social conservative, low information voters who won’t be swayed from their basic (and pointless) issues. What the Dems are after is all about getting those who up until now haven’t bothered to vote off their asses and energized. That’s what the 50 state campaign is all about–to get the election race out of the media, where the Repubs want to run it, and back onto the ground, where neighbors talk to neighbors and get them out to the polling places. This way, the Repubs can go ahead and whip their 50 million usual suspects into a frothing mass–and if only 100 million get out to vote that’s usually enough. But if the Dems get another 20 or 30 million out there to vote Democratic, those frothing maniacs will be irrelevant, just as they are in day to day life. Also, it’s just time to stop it with this artificial division between D and R that pops up every goddamned four years. When it comes down to it, we’re all basically the same–we want to have a job that pays well enough to make the bills and a few luxuries, we want our kids to get good educations, we want to send those kids to college, we want our houses and persons to be safe from damage and interference both from criminals AND law enforcement, we want to have some fairly good assurance that we’re safe to walk around, we want to be healthy and feel good. This election is all about getting people to THINK about what they REALLY want and use their judgement to decide who’s more likely to get them what they want and need. Elections are like UFC matches–the crowd gets all riled up with vicarious bloodlust, cheering when somebody bleeds or breaks a bone. That same kind of damage and a fight of that magnitude playing out in a cubicle farm on a Tuesday morning would make those same people freak out and probably throw up. The idea is not to let this election become a sick brawl to sate the bloodlust of the masses, it’s to bring the process back to what’s really important–deciding where our country is going to go for the next four years. Obama’s not going to get down and dirty, and even though I’m a scrapper with no fear of nastiness I have to agree that we need to change the way we do things–starting with our election process. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/188 "2008-09-04T18:08:45Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Ah…the false Biden “plagiarism” accusation. An oldy but an oldy. Be honest, Dio. The Kinnock accusation was inaccurate, the law student one was accurate. But minor enough. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/189 "2008-09-05T10:53:45Z")
> [@Oy](#): > > If George W. Bush is an old style conservative, then Palin is an old style conservative. For the most part, her policies appear to line up perfectly with his. I am with you. Bush was a Governer of a Large state and a right winger. Is our country better off with him than MCCain? 🙂 I wonder why McCain picked someone just like the guy he says he is opposite of,was he thinking? Monavis ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/190 "2008-09-05T12:56:45Z")
Who is Sarah Palin? We could ask a local. [http://www.crosscut.com/politics-government/17341](http://www.crosscut.com/politics-government/17341) > [@](#): > > I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Gov. Sarah Palin since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child’s favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first-name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more City Council meetings during her administration than about 99 percent of the residents of the city. > > She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like the most popular girl in middle school. > … > There is no cover-up involved here; Trig is her baby. > … > During her mayoral administration, most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings, which had given rise to a recall campaign > > Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative.” During her six years as mayor, she increased general government expenditures by more than 33 percent. During those same six years, the amount of taxes collected by the city increased by 38 percent. > … > She inherited a city with zero debt but left it with indebtedness of more than $22 million. > … > She also supported bonds for $5.5 million for road projects that could have been done in five to seven years without any borrowing. > … > She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas or compromise. As mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits but on the basis of who proposed them. > … > Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of “old boys.” Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the city and as governor, she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal > … > She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town, introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council became one of her first targets when she was later elected mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal city administrator; even people who didn’t like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness. > > Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything publicly about her. > … > As governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative action restored most of these projects — which had been vetoed simply because she was not aware of their importance — but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork.” > … > > Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the city librarian against Sarah’s attempt at censorship. > > Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable. Trust me, worth reading. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/191 "2008-09-05T13:59:37Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Who is Sarah Palin? We could ask a local. > [http://www.crosscut.com/politics-government/17341](http://www.crosscut.com/politics-government/17341) > Trust me, worth reading. Wow, so you found an enemy of hers (all reformers have enemies) willing to say bad things about her and spin everything she’s done in a negative light. If she’s so horrible, why is she wildly popular in Wasillia? Why is she wildly popular in the state? Will you give equal consideration if one of her many fans writes an op-ed saying why she’s really good at what she does? ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/192 "2008-09-05T14:54:13Z")
Sure, get me a nicely reasoned article from a local fan, would you? One with this level of detail? Now, I know as well as you do that there aren’t always two sides to every story, and the truth isn’t always somewhere in the middle. I’d also love to hear some defense for the sports complex and roads issue. But yeah, I’m listening. This does seem to be an amazingly well written article, though. Rat, uncool. ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/193 "2008-09-05T14:55:27Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > If she’s so horrible, why is she wildly popular in Wasillia? For the same reason Hitler was popular? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/194 "2008-09-05T14:58:33Z")
**Sam** it might help if you address the points that the author made rather than just do an ad hominem. Yeah, I can see why someone who speaks well and looks attractive and who spends a short term windfall by passing out the dollars (Party today!) instead of investing it responsibly in the future and who has fired any one who might speak out against her and painted those who cannot be fired as crooks (easy to do since so many the politicos there are) just might be popular in the short term. Remember that Bush had approval ratings in the upper 80’s once upon a time too. I’ll give equal consideration to the facts presented by whoever presents them. I’ll address the facts presented and maybe fact check them and come to a conclusion based on those facts whether they come from a fan or a foe. I’ve done it before and I’ll keep doing it. Right now it is your turn. Are the facts presented false? Are her conclusions about Palin not justified based on those facts? Address the meat not who is delivering the sandwich. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/195 "2008-09-05T15:11:59Z")
Palin brought 11.9 millions to Wasilia over three years. I suspect that yes, she probably was popular, with the business community in particular. Probably not so much with the working poor, since she raised municipal sales tax, even on food. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/196 "2008-09-05T15:19:06Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > You know, there is a certain irony in watching supporters of known plagiarist Joe Biden complain that Sarah Palin’s words were not her own! Keep beating on that dead horse. Maybe it will come back to life. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/197 "2008-09-05T20:20:41Z")
I’ve finally figured out who [Sarah Palin](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Palin1.JPG)is…[CLICK HERE](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0e/Broflovskis2.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/198 "2008-09-05T20:38:33Z")
Listening to Palin, I’ve concluded she is Lucille Tarlek with ugly glasses. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/199 "2008-09-05T21:42:06Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Who is Sarah Palin? We could ask a local. > [http://www.crosscut.com/politics-government/17341](http://www.crosscut.com/politics-government/17341) > Trust me, worth reading. The Kilkenny letter is now up on Snopes. This is an interesting development, if it means that Palin information is starting to float around the internet via email – a medium much more commonly used for right-wing anti-Obama content. So this is sort of like SwiftBoating, but with actual facts. The irony is delicious. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686/200 "2008-09-05T21:46:46Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > This is an interesting development, if it means that Palin information is starting to float around the internet via email – a medium much more commonly used for right-wing anti-Obama content. Much more commonly used for right-wing content? You have got to be kidding. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-again-who-is-sarah-palin/461686.md?page=11)