# And down goes Schneiderman! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 8, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793 "2018-05-08T01:35:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/21 "2018-05-08T13:53:30Z")
Does no one think that this is just a teeny bit suspicious? I mean, four women at once? If the assaults happened over a period of time, then why didn’t they go to the police individually at the times? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/22 "2018-05-08T14:14:59Z")
A “ripped from the headlines” _Law & Order_ episode for sure. Nope, they’ve done this plot before, IIRC. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/23 "2018-05-08T14:22:04Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I hope at least one of those Democrats in the NY State Legislature (not the one that caucuses with the GOP) sees what you wrote. How perfect would that be? A New York Doper with a Democratic legislator _could_ [send](http://nyassembly.gov/mem/) that suggestion to his/her legislator. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/24 "2018-05-08T16:11:44Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Does no one think that this is just a teeny bit suspicious? I mean, four women at once? If the assaults happened over a period of time, then why didn’t they go to the police individually at the times? No, not suspicious. Probably just the result of good reporting. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/25 "2018-05-08T16:12:43Z")
none of the 4 women went to the police. But they did get medical help. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/26 "2018-05-08T16:13:52Z")
Take note of the responses that you’re seeing in the press where Schneiderman is being thrown directly under the bus where he belongs. Then, perhaps, learn from it in the future and become the party of moral values that you used to pretend to be. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/27 "2018-05-08T17:31:11Z")
From the New Yorker: _“Sometimes, he’d tell me to call him Master, and he’d slap me until I did.” Selvaratnam, who was born in Sri Lanka, has dark skin, and she recalls that “he started calling me his ‘brown slave’ and demanding that I repeat that I was ‘his property.’ ”_ This guy had multiple issues. And the women were willing to look the other way for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/28 "2018-05-08T17:38:47Z")
The guy seems to have had an S&M fetish. He says consensual, the ladies say not consensual. But he resigned PDQ, so looks like he isn’t very motivated to fight it. Sometimes the whip cracks in your favor, and sometimes it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/29 "2018-05-08T17:41:45Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > From the New Yorker: > > _“Sometimes, he’d tell me to call him Master, and he’d slap me until I did.” Selvaratnam, who was born in Sri Lanka, has dark skin, and she recalls that “he started calling me his ‘brown slave’ and demanding that I repeat that I was ‘his property.’ ”_ > > This guy had multiple issues. And the women were willing to look the other way for a long time. I suspect that they felt sufficiently humiliated to not want to relive the experience but rather just leave and put it behind them at the time. The more time passed, the less likely they were to report it. Did any of them even know each other to share & compare their experiences? I imagine if they did, this would have surfaced much earlier. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/30 "2018-05-08T17:52:15Z")
This whole thing does seem rather shady, though. Not everything is so black and white, and this might be one of those grey areas. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/31 "2018-05-08T17:58:15Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > This whole thing does seem rather shady, though. Not everything is so black and white, and this might be one of those grey areas. If you haven’t read the [New Yorker article](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/four-women-accuse-new-yorks-attorney-general-of-physical-abuse), I recommend it. To me, at least, it does not sound particularly grey. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/32 "2018-05-08T18:02:33Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > The guy seems to have had an S&M fetish. He says consensual, the ladies say not consensual. But he resigned PDQ, so looks like he isn’t very motivated to fight it. Sometimes the whip cracks in your favor, and sometimes it doesn’t. None of the women’s stories suggest that his hitting and choking was part of any sexual interaction. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/33 "2018-05-08T18:02:52Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > This whole thing does seem rather shady, though. Not everything is so black and white, and this might be one of those grey areas. And, probably shades of those. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/34 "2018-05-08T18:03:55Z")
Ah. Funny stuff. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/35 "2018-05-08T18:06:13Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > How about Hilary Clinton? 😃 Nah, but people ought to keep her name in play, just to troll the wingnuts. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/36 "2018-05-08T21:03:00Z")
Has it ever occurred to any of these assholes to wait until _after_ their political career, to engage in these activities? It’s like, totally leaving aside that what they’re doing is _wrong_, aren’t they the least bit concerned about losing their jobs in disgrace if it’s found out? Do they have any sense of how disruptive it would be to all the people that work for them, and the government that they’re supposed to be working for? I just don’t understand how so many of these guys appear to have _so_ little self-control. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/37 "2018-05-08T21:12:41Z")
> [@Jacquernagy](#): > > Has it ever occurred to any of these assholes to wait until _after_ their political career, to engage in these activities? It’s like, totally leaving aside that what they’re doing is _wrong_, aren’t they the least bit concerned about losing their jobs in disgrace if it’s found out? Do they have any sense of how disruptive it would be to all the people that work for them, and the government that they’re supposed to be working for? I just don’t understand how so many of these guys appear to have _so_ little self-control. It’s an essential element of being one of these guys that you don’t believe that you can be stopped. Schneiderman told his victims “I am the law”. Setting aside the fact that most of these guys **did** get away with it for decades, even if one did get caught, the others are still thinking that it can’t happen to them because they are just too powerful and successful. The same ego that got them into the positions of power tells them that they are untouchable. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/38 "2018-05-08T22:06:27Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Nah, but people ought to keep her name in play, just to troll the wingnuts. 🙂 Absolutely. And after all, she actually _is_ quite capable of doing the job. As for being suspicious of the accusations against Schneiderman: I think we have to ask questions of ALL accusers. The right will certainly try to Franken as many Democrats as they can, and we should not meekly permit them to do so. In this case, I would trust the New Yorker’s Jane Mayer (who broke the story) to have asked the relevant questions: were any of these women seen in the company of Roger Stone recently? Have any of them been recent recipients of mysterious gifts of property, cash, etc? Have any of them recently been given lucrative contracts to work for a right-wing-associated business? Jane Mayer–and her editors–would have checked into all of this. And Schneiderman, had he been innocent, wouldn’t have resigned so quickly. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/39 "2018-05-08T22:09:08Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > If you haven’t read the [New Yorker article](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/four-women-accuse-new-yorks-attorney-general-of-physical-abuse), I recommend it. To me, at least, it does not sound particularly grey. Thanks for the link. After I read it, I’ll recommend some reading for you. It’s a book, and I haven’t read it myself, but I understand it’ll keep you spell **bound** reading it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793/40 "2018-05-08T23:47:35Z")
> [@Jacquernagy](#): > > Has it ever occurred to any of these assholes to wait until _after_ their political career, to engage in these activities? It’s like, totally leaving aside that what they’re doing is _wrong_, aren’t they the least bit concerned about losing their jobs in disgrace if it’s found out? Do they have any sense of how disruptive it would be to all the people that work for them, and the government that they’re supposed to be working for? I just don’t understand how so many of these guys appear to have _so_ little self-control. You actually believe there is a correlation between what a politician says and what a politician believes?!? Lol. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-down-goes-schneiderman/813793.md?page=3)