# And from the " Slut-Shaming Is The Way We Live, Deep In The Heart of Texas " Department...

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 18, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817 "2018-08-18T01:00:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/21 "2018-08-18T05:29:11Z")

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OK, I’m as appalled by the quote as anyone, but the district has already said it doesn’t reflect their values and will be coming down asap, presumably before the kids even step foot back in the school for the year. Not really seeing the need for hair-pulling outrage here. It was probably one employee who thought it was a good idea, maybe with a glancing approval of the principal distracted by the early-August Texas heat.

Yes, bad idea for an inspirational quote.

And yes, even better move by the district to take it down. The end.

Right? What the heck am I missing here? Why is everyone so pissed?

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/22 "2018-08-18T05:39:27Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Aside: Which reminds me… he’s a phony mod with a fake sig right? Because after reading that he’s on the ignore list, his warnings especially. I copied it so whenever I see a warning by him, it’s pasted as a response to whatever he is trying to say. I urge everyone else to ignore and call for his banning Even saying that to posters like Will Farnaby would constitute a lashing, or rape with a cactus, the fat kind. /Aside

Uh, you do know you can’t ignore a mod, right? Go ahead. Do it and you’ll find out how “fake” **Miller** is.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/23 "2018-08-18T05:53:22Z")

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Besides, **Ed’s** old Pit rules have fallen by the wayside. There are no longer any restrictions against saying “Fuck you.”

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/24 "2018-08-18T06:16:06Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Are you saying Miller is a fake mod? :dubious:

No, you fucking goat felcher, have you taught your children that yet?, seeing as how you are such a responsible parent as to let your children read curse laden posts, like the fucking retarded love child of two fucking retarded love children that you are, which I highly doubt, Dio, you retard, Fake is a miller Mod.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/25 "2018-08-18T06:24:18Z")

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:eek: Are you saying that Octopus is DtC **Drunky**???

No way. Really?? Nah, no way, you’re drunk. 😛

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/26 "2018-08-18T06:29:23Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> I would really, really, really like to know why apparently everybody on this board thinks that children should behave like boors and barbarians, instead of behaving like ladies and gentlemen.

I would really, really, really like to know how you could possibly come up with that interpretation? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/27 "2018-08-18T07:02:59Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> When a Middle School in Houston’s public school district sees fit to [adorn the walls with this missive aimed squarely at the girls in the building](https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/misogynistic-quote-above-hisd-middle-school-lockers-goes-viral/285-585244043), you know just how things go down there.
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> In Texas, where girls are apparently sluts and need to be reigned in. Just for, yanno, existing.
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> The kicker is that this is a direct quote from infamous [Mayflower Madame, Sydney Biddle Barrows.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Biddle_Barrows)
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> Shame the fuck on you, Houston Public Schools.

That’s 11 miles from **Clothahump** ’s dojo. Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/28 "2018-08-18T07:08:59Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> No, you fucking goat felcher, have you taught your children that yet?, seeing as how you are such a responsible parent as to let your children read curse laden posts, like the fucking retarded love child of two fucking retarded love children that you are, which I highly doubt, Dio, you retard, Fake is a miller Mod.

You off your meds again?

Seriously? And these stupid so-called sock allegations are silly. PM a mod with all your and Morgenstern’s, where has that goofy sob been?, so-called proof on your allegation and do something. Or shut up.

And regarding my children, I’m not sure why you feel the need to bring them up. Have you any children Drunky? Do you have anyone to mourn you when you finally OD on whatever it is that has your mind so scrambled?

Potty mouth.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/29 "2018-08-18T07:16:20Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> That’s 11 miles from **Clothahump** ’s dojo. Just sayin’.

Maybe Humpy did it himself, knowing it would end up here for discussion. :D:D

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/30 "2018-08-18T07:17:57Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> And regarding my children, I’m not sure why you feel the need to bring them up. Have you any children Drunky? Do you have anyone to mourn you when you finally OD on whatever it is that has your mind so scrambled?
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> Potty mouth.

Because you’re the one who was dumb enough to use them as an excuse to try and shame everyone for using language you don’t like. It’s not our responsibilty to raise your kids. Dumbass.

Go fuck yourself with a rusty chainsaw. 😛

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/31 "2018-08-18T07:22:11Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> I would really, really, really like to know why apparently everybody on this board thinks that children should behave like boors and barbarians, instead of behaving like ladies and gentlemen.

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I would really, really, really like to know how you could possibly come up with that interpretation? :dubious:

He’s a radical reactionary. When it suits his purposes, no middle is so fallacious that he won’t leave it unexcluded.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/32 "2018-08-18T07:22:53Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Because you’re the one who was dumb enough to use them as an excuse to try and shame everyone for using language you don’t like. It’s not our responsibilty to raise your kids. Dumbass.
> 
> Go fuck yourself with a rusty chainsaw. 😛

How about no!

Listen here, Guinny, such _obvious_ “fishing” for a potty mouth specifically for you is not how this works. I am insulted!!! that you think I am so easily manipulated. Do I look like I just fell off of the pickle boat?

It’s late here and I almost missed the part about “not our responsibility.” Yes. Yes. Come to the conservative side.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/33 "2018-08-18T07:25:42Z")

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C’mon folks, don’t let the resident troll/s derail this thread.

Please? Just let them talk into a vacuum…that way the topic stays conversation-worthy and doesn’t degenerate into an Octoturd side-show.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/34 "2018-08-18T07:26:51Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> C’mon folks, don’t let the resident troll/s derail this thread.
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> Please? Just let them talk into a vacuum…that way the topic stays conversation-worthy and doesn’t degenerate into an Octoturd side-show.

“Them?” I’m not plural.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/35 "2018-08-18T07:28:04Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> How about no!
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> Listen here, Guinny, such _obvious_ “fishing” for a potty mouth specifically for you is not how this works. I am insulted!!! that you think I am so easily manipulated. Do I look like I just fell off of the pickle boat?  
> .

No, you look like you just got picked up off the ice at a Penguins game…

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/36 "2018-08-18T07:46:46Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> No, you look like you just got picked up off the ice at a Penguins game…

Those are some barbaric people. I tell you, in all seriousness, humans aren’t the only species on the planet that need to be treated with respect.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/37 "2018-08-18T07:50:50Z")

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I just learned something interesting: octopus isn’t on everyone’s ignore list. Why not? I mean, you folks seem like intelligent people.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/38 "2018-08-18T07:56:19Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I just learned something interesting: octopus isn’t on everyone’s ignore list. Why not? I mean, you folks seem like intelligent people.

I don’t have anyone on an ignore list **Monty**. Doesn’t mean I can’t ignore them anyway. 😃

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/39 "2018-08-18T08:03:24Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> OK, I’m as appalled by the quote as anyone, but the district has already said it doesn’t reflect their values and will be coming down asap, presumably before the kids even step foot back in the school for the year. Not really seeing the need for hair-pulling outrage here. It was probably one employee who thought it was a good idea, maybe with a glancing approval of the principal distracted by the early-August Texas heat.
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> Yes, bad idea for an inspirational quote.
> 
> And yes, even better move by the district to take it down. The end.
> 
> Right? What the heck am I missing here? Why is everyone so pissed?

The article covers it fairly well: the quote implies that if boys don’t act like “gentlemen” it’s because girls haven’t acted like “ladies”. It places the entire onus for boys’ behavior on girls, when boys are responsible for their own behavior. This is a very, very, very old idea (Adam and Eve, for example) and people are tired of it, and feel that schools should not perpetuate it.

I’m off to find the **Miller** post.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/40 "2018-08-18T08:06:08Z")

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I don’t have an ignore list either. I can scroll. Like when you just see the letters: Forthing… (scroll, scroll, scroll, almost over, scroll, scroll, next poster) 😃

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