# And from the " Slut-Shaming Is The Way We Live, Deep In The Heart of Texas " Department... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 18, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817 "2018-08-18T01:00:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/381 "2018-08-30T06:52:41Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’m happy to report that I got called a “hero” tonight. > > [snip] > > People can’t get along when one side is constantly demonizing the other side. This is something else you might want to give some thought to. Bravo, take a bow hero!! You’ve managed to totally misunderstand the whole thrust of this thread. You’re very special, SA, and I mean that sincerely. Special. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/382 "2018-08-30T07:08:41Z")
I don’t believe a goddamned word of it. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/383 "2018-08-30T07:13:29Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I don’t believe a goddamned word of it. Yeah, there’s that too. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/384 "2018-08-30T07:13:33Z")
Cool story, scumbag. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/385 "2018-08-30T08:25:24Z")
Conveniently timed, too. I’m reminded of some other conservative nutjob’s [crazy lawnmower lady encounter](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20460559&postcount=6102) just happening to occur when (they thought) it would help their argument in a thread here. Sure, that’s _not_ incredible at all. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/386 "2018-08-30T08:55:37Z")
At some point we have to take our losses and just STOP FEEDING THE GODDAMN TROLL. There is no conversation, no debate, no interaction: He’s a like a toddler with his fingers in his ears singing “I can’t hear you”. We have to clear the cookie jar away. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/387 "2018-08-30T12:02:47Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’m happy to report that I got called a “hero” tonight. > [@Urban Dictionary](#): > > **Hero** > > A derogatory term used to describe someone who tries way too hard at delivering peace or justice in which the matters are trivial and not worth bothering about. > > The person’s intentions of being a HERO is usually to receive applause or gratitude from others > > You are a HERO because you yelled at someone who crossed the road without waiting for the lights to go green when no cars were coming. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/388 "2018-08-30T12:08:13Z")
I’m happy to report that I was called a hero this morning. This weird old white guy was talking down to a bunch of women and telling them that the way they go about their lives was wrong, and he wasn’t listening to anything they were saying. I told him to shut up and fuck off, and he shat himself and then ran away. The women just walked away and went about their day, but a voice in my head said that I was a hero. Well done, hero. ---
**Author:** ![UnwittingAmericans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@UnwittingAmericans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwittingAmericans)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/389 "2018-08-30T12:08:36Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I don’t believe a goddamned word of it. Me either; however under the new rules, you’re _ **required** _ to, no exceptions. ---
**Author:** ![chaika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chaika/32/405_2.png) [@chaika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaika)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/390 "2018-08-30T12:25:25Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’m happy to report that I got called a “hero” tonight. > > After having been out for a while I was returning to work after dark, and sure enough, veering unsteadily through a parking lot I sometimes drive through to get to my building, was a weird looking dude in red shorts, no shirt, short, spiky blonde hair, and carrying some sort of tube similar to what a cue stick might be carried in, only about six or seven inches wide, bright red and only about two feet long. He didn’t give off a homeless vibe, because he looked fit and trim and both his clothes and whatever the tube thing was looked new and in good shape. He kind of smiled at me as I drove by and then started looking inside the truck he was approaching at the time I drove up on him. Shortly after he walked away from the truck and began to amble on his way. > > So I get to work and one of the young women (the one who’d previously jokingly complained about having to walk to her car by herself once when I wasn’t there) asked me if I’d walk her to her car as she had some boxes she wanted to put in the back, and that she hated to bother me and had attempted to take them out herself but “there was this weird guy out there by my car so I came back inside.” > > I asked her what the guy looked like and she described the man I’d seen in the adjacent parking lot. I told her I’d seen him too and that he had been walking away from our building at the time I’d seen him. She asked if I still thought he was out there or if he’d come back, and I said _“I don’t know. I’ll go take a look,”_ and turned away to head for the back door. From behind as I walked away I heard her quasi-playfully yell, _“My hero!”_ > > As I said before, it’s so nice that now some of the loonier aspects of the otherwise very worthwhile women’s movement are starting to fall by the wayside and that women are finally beginning to feel more free to recognize that there are indeed significant differences between men and women, and that properly utilized, men can be of great benefit to women. > > It was such a refreshing change from this thread where the idea of “being good to each other” seems to be demonizing men in general, and to such a ridiculous degree that a simple exhortation to be ladylike is interpreted as giving boys free rein to rape all the girls they want. Oh, and also to be “slut-shaming,” because as we all know, if a woman isn’t a lady then by definition she’s a slut. :rolleyes: > > I would suggest that if you people are serious about encouraging a lessening of mistreatment of women by asking people to simply be good to each other, that you stop portraying men as would-be rapists faunching at the bit to be set free, or as oppressive assholes endlessly seeking ways to oppress you and keep you in your supposed place. > > People can’t get along when one side is constantly demonizing the other side. This is something else you might want to give some thought to. I am at a loss to understand what that anecdote was meant to illustrate. You saw a guy wearing red shorts and carrying a bright red tube. And a colleague of yours also saw him. She wondered whether he might still be around. So you said you’d go and check. And. . .? What happened? You went outside and Red Shorts was gone (in which case, the whole thing is a non-story)? Or he was there, threatening passers-by with his bright red tube and your manly manliness saved the day in some way? What did you actually do that warranted being called heroic (even “quasi-playfully”)? Do you honestly believe that this non-story illustrates the moral that “men can be of great benefit to women”? Huh? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/391 "2018-08-30T13:00:08Z")
I think it’s meant to suggest that not every woman hates all men, as you people keep arguing. That _some_ women still appreciate common chivalric courtesy. M’lady. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/392 "2018-08-30T13:09:16Z")
> [@Trafalgar\_Laura](#): > > I’ve met a lot of men who claim “I’ve never known anyone who has been raped/sexually harassed, therefore it never happens.” > > LADIES DON’T USUALLY MENTION IT TO MEN. THEY JUST DON’T. Even their husbands? Even their ‘best male friends’? Usually, NO. And it’s yet another thing in which actually it’s got nothing to do with gender. The only genderized thing here is that women are more likely to be the target of sexual misconduct than men, but it’s not as if “the times I was sexually assaulted” are a topic of frequent conversation around watercoolers. I know more women who’ve been targetted than men, but I’d be very surprised if any of the men I know have told more than a few people. Most of those guys, I know it because I was also one of the targets (teacher at school; he was an equal-opportunity groper). How does girls being ladylike help their male classmates who are being assaulted? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/393 "2018-08-30T14:01:32Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > People can’t get along when one side is constantly demonizing the other side. That call for even-handedness reminds me – we’re still waiting on an answer to: > [@Zakalwe](#): > > Okay, just curiosity here, but let’s say that you win and the saying stays up. What would you suggest as the male-focused counterpart for the other side of the hall/boy’s locker room? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/394 "2018-08-30T14:06:21Z")
> [@andros](#): > > I think it’s meant to suggest that not every woman hates all men, as you people keep arguing. That _some_ women still appreciate common chivalric courtesy. M’lady. You forgot to tip your fedora… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/395 "2018-08-30T14:45:33Z")
> [@andros](#): > > I think it’s meant to suggest that not every woman hates all men, as you people keep arguing. That _some_ women still appreciate common chivalric courtesy. M’lady. Though, even more bizarrely, the presence of any other male _is_ apparently a threat. Other males have been seen in the area, that’s the sole justification for the delusion that the helpless womenfolk all need walking to the car by him, even when said other males are just rarely walking past (or through!!!) the parking lot. But women shouldn’t treat all males as potential rapists 😕 I could fertilise my garden with his posts. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/396 "2018-08-30T15:08:28Z")
That story really does highlight several things, none of them positive about SA. He says other men who work there would (should?) Be glad to step up and protect these damsels except this one waited specifically for her hero to arrive. Didn’t ask anyone but SA. She tried to do it herself, but there was a male in the vicinity and she was frightened. But her movement isn’t restricted at all! We shouldn’t demonize the other side- from the guy who blames all society’s ills on liberals. Don’t treat all men as villains- did I tell you about this obvious villain who was in the parking lot? He terrified all the ladies. His crime? Being male in the parking lot. The cad. Oh, and rolling his eyes at slut-shaming- from the guy who thinks that young girls are emulating “hos and bitches” and being told to be ladylike by the Mayflower Madam will help prevent that particular issue. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/397 "2018-08-30T15:20:17Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > You forgot to tip your fedora… 🙂 The fedora is implied. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/398 "2018-08-30T16:20:54Z")
> [@chaika](#): > > I am at a loss to understand what that anecdote was meant to illustrate. You saw a guy wearing red shorts and carrying a bright red tube. And a colleague of yours also saw him. She wondered whether he might still be around. So you said you’d go and check. And. . .? What happened? You went outside and Red Shorts was gone (in which case, the whole thing is a non-story)? Or he was there, threatening passers-by with his bright red tube and your manly manliness saved the day in some way? What did you actually do that warranted being called heroic (even “quasi-playfully”)? Do you honestly believe that this non-story illustrates the moral that “men can be of great benefit to women”? Huh? 😕 My takeaway is that any man holding some sort of tube is a sick fuck who is a danger to society and shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near adult women, let alone minors. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/399 "2018-08-30T16:57:35Z")
My takeaway is - what was in the tube? I want to know!!! ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817/400 "2018-08-30T16:58:35Z")
> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > The fedora is implied. I used to play bass for Implied Fedora. > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > My takeaway is that any man holding some sort of tube is a sick fuck who is a danger to society and shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near adult women, let alone minors. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-from-the-slut-shaming-is-the-way-we-live-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas-department/819817.md?page=21)