# And I looked, and behold a Red Socked horse, and his name that sat on him was Boston **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 21, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342 "2004-10-21T03:55:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/21 "2004-10-21T18:01:24Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > Very classy **World Eater**. šŸ™‚ What **Honey** said. Very classy. Iā€™ve found through experience that crow goes down easier with good beer. If we ever meet, your response in this thread ensures that the first few rounds are on me. šŸ˜ƒ Besides, in the words of every freaking Red Sox fan throughout recorded historyā€¦ ā€œWait until next year!ā€ ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/22 "2004-10-21T18:15:58Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > What **Honey** said. Very classy. > > Iā€™ve found through experience that crow goes down easier with good beer. If we ever meet, your response in this thread ensures that the first few rounds are on me. šŸ˜ƒ Thanks, I could go for for several beers right now. > [@](#): > > Besides, in the words of every freaking Red Sox fan throughout recorded historyā€¦ > > ā€œWait until next year!ā€ True. I bet theyā€™re still mopping up the goo from Steinbrennerā€™s head exploding. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/23 "2004-10-21T18:38:30Z")
Poor **World Eater**. At least you have the Knicks season to look forward to. I was up in NYC last weekend, and I saw a bunch of billboards with Marbury, Houston and Thomas. They were looking very stern and serious. So Iā€™m sure theyā€™ll do well. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/24 "2004-10-21T18:57:11Z")
> [@Loopydude](#): > > I certainly donā€™t think Steinbrenner will let this debacle pass without a major shakeup, esp. of the pitching staff. No expense will deter him; the only question is: Who will he buy, and how much will he dole out before NY wins another 'Series? Steinbrenner, unfortunately, isnā€™t a ā€˜pitchingā€™ man. He has never given pitching its due. Steinbrenner will see the Yankees inability to score runs against Boston pitching and try to stack the lineup even more. Hopefully, some of his baseball people will convince him of the need for top flight pitching based on the last two years post-season performances of our opponentsā€™ pitching staffs, and some $$$ can be diverted towards pitching prospects. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/25 "2004-10-21T19:14:08Z")
> [@Neurotik](#): > > Poor **World Eater**. > > At least you have the Knicks season to look forward to. > > I was up in NYC last weekend, and I saw a bunch of billboards with Marbury, Houston and Thomas. They were looking very stern and serious. So Iā€™m sure theyā€™ll do well. šŸ™‚ Ugh, I canā€™t even think about the Knicks. Iā€™m liking Miami, Minny or Denver this year. I still thinking back about how the Yanks were 3 outs from a sweep. Boggles the mind. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/26 "2004-10-21T19:18:30Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > I still thinking back about how the Yanks were 3 outs from a sweep. Boggles the mind. Yeh. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is much more Cubbie-esque. šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/27 "2004-10-21T20:14:08Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Ugh, I canā€™t even think about the Knicks. > > Iā€™m liking Miami, Minny or Denver this year. > > I still thinking back about how the Yanks were 3 outs from a sweep. Boggles the mind. I can relate. The Sox were 5 outs away last year. Aaron F.N Boone. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/28 "2004-10-21T20:33:20Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > I can relate. The Sox were 5 outs away last year. Aaron F.N Boone. šŸ˜‰ Lol, yeah thatā€™s right. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/29 "2004-10-21T20:39:58Z")
I saw the headlines in todayā€™s papers about the Red Sox winning as I was walking down the street to catch the busā€“literally stopped in my tracks and squeaked with joy. Very many congratulations, Boston! And I agree, very classy of you, **World Eater**. Allow me to buy you a beer for all that crow? šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![seriousart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@seriousart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seriousart)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/30 "2004-10-21T20:45:06Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > If the 'stros win, the World Series will mirror the Presidential election. MA Vs TX Iā€™ve been talking this point up a lot amongst my immediate friends. To which Iā€™m usually met with cold stares and something along the lines of : ā€œyouā€™re thinking WAY too much about this electionā€¦ā€ That said- GO KERRY! erā€¦ I meanā€¦ Sox. **GO SOX!** ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/31 "2004-10-21T20:47:15Z")
KERRY SOX? SOX IT TO KERRY? Iā€™m sure a lot of Astro fans and Bush supporters would agree. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/32 "2004-10-21T20:58:41Z")
Well thanks for the kind words everyone. Itā€™s been a long day. Perhaps if the Jets crush the Pats this weekend, Iā€™ll feel slightly better. Iā€™ll also feel better if the Sox get denied the rings. Lastly, an _empty_ fenway park falling into a giant sinkhole would help ease the pain too. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/33 "2004-10-21T21:06:59Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Well thanks for the kind words everyone. Itā€™s been a long day. Perhaps if the Jets crush the Pats this weekend, Iā€™ll feel slightly better. Iā€™ll also feel better if the Sox get denied the rings. Lastly, an _empty_ fenway park falling into a giant sinkhole would help ease the pain too. šŸ˜ƒ Does it have to be _empty_šŸ˜ƒ Still, here is hoping to Roger Clemens getting Houstonā€™s 4th win over the Red Sox. That will allow me to sleep better. Hmmm, so in my pool, should I pick Jets or Pats, **WE**? No points. Iā€™m also looking for a pick in the professional league, where the Giants play the Lions. _double_ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/34 "2004-10-21T21:20:53Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Does it have to be _empty_šŸ˜ƒ > > Still, here is hoping to Roger Clemens getting Houstonā€™s 4th win over the Red Sox. That will allow me to sleep better. > > Hmmm, so in my pool, should I pick Jets or Pats, **WE**? No points. Iā€™m also looking for a pick in the professional league, where the Giants play the Lions. _double_ šŸ˜ƒ Godfucking damn I hate Boston. Why oh why are you haunting me so? \ To further become Bostonā€™s little bitch here, Iā€™ll have to go with the Pats. I donā€™t think the Jets are in their league. The Giants _should_ (which means nothing) make short work of the Lions. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/35 "2004-10-21T21:46:18Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > (Though knowing the Soxā€™s capacity for irony, I suspect they will end up losing to Roger Clemens in the seventh game.) I had somehow managed not to think about this until you mentioned it, but yeah, I think youā€™re right. ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/36 "2004-10-21T22:26:34Z")
I think one major problem is that Mariano Rivera has reached the top of the mountain and begun to descend. IIRC, closers donā€™t usually last as long as he has been one, and he is older than his "official"age. Donā€™t get me wrong, I think heā€™s been wonderful, but it just doesnā€™t compare to his first couple of years. On another note, can we Yankees fans be allowed just one fantasy? Suppose we HAD gotten Randy Johnson. Oh, congrats, Red Sox, especially those who are civilized enough to NOT set cars on fire. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/37 "2004-10-21T22:35:02Z")
> [@neuroman](#): > > Not only did the Sox come back from 0-3, I think there are more Yankees threads active right now than Bush/Kerry threads. > > Today has been a true breakthrough in porcine flight. I am now convinced that Ralph Nader will win the election in a landslide. > [@](#): > > I certainly donā€™t think Steinbrenner will let this debacle pass without a major shakeup, esp. of the pitching staff. No expense will deter him; the only question is: Who will he buy, and how much will he dole out before NY wins another 'Series? Knowing the way The Bossā€™s mind works, I think itā€™s odds-on that heā€™ll try to have Pedro in pinstripes next year. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/38 "2004-10-21T22:37:22Z")
> [@MLS](#): > > I think one major problem is that Mariano Rivera has reached the top of the mountain and begun to descend. I say itā€™s more the rest of the Bullpen sucking serious eggs. ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/39 "2004-10-21T22:37:55Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Knowing the way The Bossā€™s mind works, I think itā€™s odds-on that heā€™ll try to have Pedro in pinstripes next year. Not a chance. He would have to conform to the Yankee grooming and behavior standards, for starters, which he wouldnā€™t do. He is also past his prime. Why would we need another starter who collapses into ashes after 100 pitches? ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342/40 "2004-10-21T22:39:32Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > I say itā€™s more the rest of the Bullpen sucking serious eggs. Yes, but had he NOT blown one of those two blown saves, Boston would not be celebrating now. Of course, thereā€™s lots of responsibility to go around. Plus a lot of recognition of a lot of effort from the Sox, no doubt about it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-looked-and-behold-a-red-socked-horse-and-his-name-that-sat-on-him-was-boston/270342.md?page=3)