# And I would know you from...?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 13, 2001, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049 "2001-11-13T02:51:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Civil\_Defense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Defense)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2001, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/21 "2001-11-13T08:29:16Z")
Hmm… Pit? Check. I speak not for **Esprix** (who, evidently, rocks), but you piss me off to no end.
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> I’ve come to the conclusion that in order to make your little world go round, you need to be constantly bitching about something, no matter how insignificant. I can just imagine what you’re like to wait on in a restaurant.
Likewise, I’ve come to the conclusion that in order to make **your** little world go round, you need to be constantly rebutting everything anyone says, especially **Esprix**.
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> Gee, let’s hope your rant for tomorrow will be as culturally enlightening. I can’t wait to read Hey Hangnail! Step the fuck off my otherwise annoyance-free body!
And I can’t wait to read your half-assed reply. If you don’t like what **Esprix** has to say, no one’s forcing you to read the posts. Stop inflicting undue pain upon yourself, that’s for the rest of us.
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> And Garbo, if you vant to be alone, use the fucking Block All option, and save us some bandwidth.
I tell ya, the board would load a hell of a lot faster if some lame attempt at wit wasn’t tagged to every post you find unacceptable.
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> Be thankful you don’t have video IMs. I’ve seen more hairy ass than Ron Jeremy’s proctologist.
Oh. Stop. It hurts. The laughter. Please. I am in tears. Sob, sob, sob.
[sub]Sometimes there’s no better description than pus-oozing, fecal gormandizing eukaryotic disembodied cow sphincter.[/sub]
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### Author:  [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2001, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/22 "2001-11-13T10:45:26Z")
I am WAY out of my element here… but:
**Astroboy pulls up a chair, sits down, and waits for Esprix to wake up…**
Who has the popcorn?
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### Author:  [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2001, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/23 "2001-11-13T13:28:12Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Esprix \*
> \*\ ***Fenris** , be a dear and warm up the audience, won’t you? Thank you. You know how much I appreciate you. 🙂
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I’ll see what I can come up with, but you gotta admit, **Bossko** isn’t worth our A list stuff.
And, really, **Esprix** : you should go easy on him. Given the warmth of his…“personality”, an unsolicited e-mail message/IM (even from a spammer or a creepy woman with dubious motives) would probably up his daily human contact by 100%. I suspect he’s jealous of you.
But then, aren’t we all? 😉
Fenris
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### Author:  [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2001, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/24 "2001-11-13T13:42:18Z")
**Esprix**??? You’re like…_ **GAY???** _ Lemme see now, I don’t recall getting a memo to that regard. Hmmmmm… are you SURE you are gay?? I almost always never lose important memos !!! 😃
Cartooniverse
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### Author:  [@Medea\_s\_Child](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Medea_s_Child)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2001, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/25 "2001-11-13T13:51:27Z")
I don’t think he’s really gay. I mean, they’re all just faking it right…right?
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### Author:  [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2001, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/26 "2001-11-13T14:16:35Z")
Well, I have to say, it’s not much of a rant really. Where’s the venom? Where’s the hatred? There just seems to be a general lack of paitence over some dim-wit.
I dunno. I suppose I expect more. Vile name calling. Horrible cursing. Really nasty mud-slinging at some totally fucked up moron who can’t comprehend…
Oh look. **Bossk** is here.
Things are looking up.
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### Author:  [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2001, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/27 "2001-11-13T15:31:32Z")
One of the reasons I quit AOL (besides it being a generally crappy online service) was that I would get spam IMs. “I’m Cindy, and my girlfriend and I made a HOT video we want you to see. Click here for details.” I also don’t feel much of a need to chat aimlessly. I prefer to do my flirting IRL, thankyouverymuch.
How sad do you have to be to IM some gay guy in San Diego just to talk? Has she no friends or family? Doesn’t she have a book to read or a movie to watch? Can’t she go to the gym and meet people there? And why on Earth does she think a gay guy is going to waste his online time chatting to a bored Ohio hausfrau?
I hang out here because the SDMB, by and large, consists of intelligent, well-rounded folks, and it’s a welcome respite from twiddling my thumbs waiting for work to get on my desk. I don’t usually cruise the Internet at night because I lift weights after work most nights, and off nights I’m out with friends, or finding some interesting trouble to get into. In any event, I would rather bang my head with a mallet than endure the usual inane “UR r331 kewt, d00d” blather.
In re BossK, I quote PeterLorre and Humphrey Bogart from _Casablanca_ (1943)
Ugarte: You despise me, don’t you, Rick?
Rick: If I gave you any thought, I probably would.
Yeah, some guy named after an obscure Star Wars character, I’ll bet he’s an in-shape and socially confident tiger with the ladies. (yeah, right–I’ll bet he’s chompin’on a Snickers bar in his comic book store and thinking, “Worst Rant Ever!”)
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### Author:  [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2001, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/28 "2001-11-13T15:49:45Z")
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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*
> \*\*Yeah, some guy named after an obscure Star Wars character, I’ll bet he’s an in-shape and socially confident tiger with the ladies. (yeah, right–I’ll bet he’s chompin’on a Snickers bar in his comic book store and thinking, “Worst Rant Ever!”) \*\*
Hey, I resent the inference that Star Wars, comic books and Snickers-eating are uncool, or that those of us who enjoy the previous list of things are anything like **Bossk**.
**Bossk** is an asshole totally independant of any geeky things he does. Thank you.
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### Author:  [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2001, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/29 "2001-11-13T15:52:56Z")
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> Hey, I resent the inference that Star Wars, comic books and Snickers-eating are uncool, or that those of us who enjoy the previous list of things are anything like Bossk
My apologies. I wasn’t condemning any of those items individually; I was trying to compare **BossK** to the Comic Book Store Guy from _The Simpsons_.
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### Author:  [@RainbowDragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RainbowDragon)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2001, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/30 "2001-11-13T16:10:18Z")
Frankly **Esprix** I was a little disappointed by this rant, being a fan of so many of your previous posts.
I don’t believe she meant any harm by her IM, she just wanted to chat a bit. If you profile read “Only willing to talk to gay men in California”, then you would be completely justified in kicking her ass with your obvious skill at repartee.
I once had an obvious AOL handle like yours, and I can tell you that kind of IM was a welcome one. The ones that would set me off were the assholes that would IM “Die Fag!”, “Burn In Hell Fag”, etc. Then there were the jerks that would masquerade as another gay man with the intention of “Turning you to Jesus”.
Oddly enough without my obvious AOL IM handle, I still get IMs out of the blue (although very rarely). I simply respond “Not interested in chatting. Thank you.” Then they go away or if they don’t stop sending me messages I block them.
Some women (married and non-married) get this feeling that gay men are trendy, like expensive bottled water. They believe that all gay men are sensitive, emotional, and love to chat and gossip with women. While that may be true of some gay men, it is certainly not typical of all gay men.
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### Author:  [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2001, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/31 "2001-11-13T16:40:08Z")
ATTENTION THIRTEEN-YEAR-OLD GIRLS…
For some reason, I attract you. I don’t know why anymore. I changed my profile and took out the line about dancing with the girl you brought because she’s always the most beautiful girl there, which most of you cited as “so sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.” I replaced it with a long missive about Greco-Roman wrestling, ska music, and some lyrics.
SO WHY DO YOU KEEP IMing ME?!!
Listen, I don’t think Cathy’s concerns about me being a nonthreatening teddy bearish guy are valid. I’m 19. That should be threatening enough for most 13s. Teddy bearish? Fine. But how do you know that when I refuse to show you a picture?
Jesus, girls, just quit IMing me so I can talk to people my age.
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### Author:  [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2001, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/32 "2001-11-13T23:41:11Z")
Sorry Esprix, you’ve really dropped the ball here.
The poor woman just wanted a safe online soulmate. And from her standpoint, who could be safer than you? She could chat with you about the Buckeyes’ dismal season, Governor Taft’s latest education proposal and all kinds of cool stuff - and if her beer-swilling husband with the gut hanging over his belt caught her spending all that time messaging you, she
could argue that it wasn’t at all serious since you’re a gay man thousands of miles away.
By turning her down, you may be propelling her into an alternate relationship which could involve an unsafe and possibly unsanitary adulterous affair. And all because you couldn’t make a little extra room in your address book.
I’m very disappointed in you.
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### Author:  [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/33 "2001-11-14T00:09:50Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Medea’s Child \*
> \*\*I don’t think he’s really gay. I mean, they’re all just faking it right…right? \*\*
He ShOuLd NoT b GaY bCuZ tHaT iS gRoSs aNd ThE bIblE sEz lYkE u WiLl gO 2 HeLl So He ShOuLd StOp BeInG gAy.
[sub]whew! that’s a pain in the ass![/sub]
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### Author:  [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/34 "2001-11-14T00:37:32Z")
My god, **Bossk** , you _are_ an annoying little fuck, ain’tcha?
[Over here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=97629) we gave you your own Pit thread for you to play in, giving you lurid details about what a first-class fuckjob you are, but you don’t bother to respond (or at least not in any meaningful way, as in actually addressing why you’re such a fucking moron). Oh, a couple of your soc… er, minions jump to your defense, but the evidence remains. More importantly, though, you didn’t get the hint. So what do you do? Continue in your trollish, jerkish ways by posting your little _bon mots_ in this thread.
Although I covered all the bases in that thread, allow me to post a quick summary:
[ul][li]You and I had absolutely no contact whatsoever until you chose, unprovoked, to mock my web page in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=94785). I asked you what you meant, but let it slide.[/li][li]Combined with several other pissants, I posted a general call for armistice in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=95772), and although I never mentioned you by name, you assumed (correctly) you were one of my intended target audience (and you didn’t disappoint in your reply, just to make sure).[/li][li]You again take a drive-by swipe at me in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=97400) - again, unprovoked.[/li][li]When given the opportunity to shine in the above thread, you back off like the coward you are, learning nothing and reveling in your ignorance.[/li][li]You decide _again_ to snipe at me here, for reasons unknown (and my reply is next).[/li][li]I’m not the only poster you have a hard-on for - **SPOOFE** seems to be a pet project of yours as well. (And you couldn’t resist yet another pot-shot at me when I call you on it in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=97440).)[/li][li]Mind you, this is only a list of things I’ve noticed or have been directed specifically at me - others have pointed out a rather lengthy list of posts where you have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that pet rocks should never be flushed down the toilet when you get tired of them.[/ul][/li]
So for the _second_ time, I will ask you, since you chose to needle me again in this thread - **what the fuck is your damage?**
It might also behoove you to keep in mind that what you are doing is called trolling (particularly because you’re so persistent at it), and by doing so you’re violating the Prime Directive of the SDMB - “Don’t be a jerk.” I of course leave it to the mods to decide if or when you cross the line, but don’t say nobody told you.
Now then, on to the latest:
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> You got an unsolicited IM? Holy shit, call the Feds!
Nice extrapolation. Is this where I call you a Nazi in turn? :rolleyes: In case you missed it - _like you, it’s merely a mild annoyance_, not a major malfunction, and, since the Pit is where we let off a little steam, I did so. If you didn’t care for it, why did you take the time to read it? Or, even more so, post back? Talk about a waste of bandwidth…
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> I’ve come to the conclusion that in order to make your little world go round, you need to be constantly bitching about something, no matter how insignificant.
And I’ve come to the conclusion that in order to make your little world go round, you need to be constantly harping on others for expressing their opinions while you mastrubate wildly (and loudly, I’m sure) to _Star Wars_ Luke/Leia slash fanfic. (Oh, sorry - didn’t mean to extrapolate so accurately. :rolleyes: )
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> I can just imagine what you’re like to wait on in a restaurant.
Actually, I tip quite well.
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> Gee, let’s hope your rant for tomorrow will be as culturally enlightening.
You want to see cultural enlightenment? You want to see how _I’ve_ contributed to this board? Click on any one of the _four_ links in my sig to see what I’ve done for the people around here and the fight against ignorance. And what have you contributed in your brief time here? The fact that hemorrhoid have evolved to the point of being able to operate a keyboard.
In short, you are certainly a most annoying little gnat who has yet to justify his existence here, particularly considering you’re giving a whole lot of people good reason to want to see you gone. I will agree that **weirddave** ’s “suggestion” in the previous thread was entirely uncalled-for, but I understand his frustration, as no one seems to understand why you’re continuing to be a grade-A prick. You’re not funny, you’re not particularly smart, you’re not witty, you’re just… annoying. Care to tell us why? Or are you going to post-and-run again?
Add boring to the list. _{yawn}_
Esprix
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### Author:  [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/35 "2001-11-14T00:45:04Z")
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> _Originally posted by **RainbowDragon** _
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> Frankly **Esprix** I was a little disappointed by this rant, being a fan of so many of your previous posts.
I’ll let you know when I need to live up to your expectations. It wasn’t mean to be a flame, it was just venting about a minor annoyance (much like the above post).
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> I don’t believe she meant any harm by her IM, she just wanted to chat a bit. If you profile read “Only willing to talk to gay men in California”, then you would be completely justified in kicking her ass with your obvious skill at repartee.
I can believe she might not have meant any harm, but my profile pretty much does say “only willing to talk to gay men in California” - even more so, in _San Diego_. So, yeah, she was pretty much willfully ignorant.
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> Oddly enough without my obvious AOL IM handle, I still get IMs out of the blue (although very rarely). I simply respond “Not interested in chatting. Thank you.” Then they go away or if they don’t stop sending me messages I block them.
Well that’s pretty much what I did, if I was a little annoyed. As others have said, 9 times out of 10 I get a “fuck you asshole!” for my effort to be nice, if honest and blunt. I could easily have not replied at all, immediately blocked her, or sent her a nasty “fuck off!” message, but I didn’t.
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> Some women (married and non-married) get this feeling that gay men are trendy, like expensive bottled water. They believe that all gay men are sensitive, emotional, and love to chat and gossip with women. While that may be true of some gay men, it is certainly not typical of all gay men.
Yup. But I’m missing your point - am I supposed to act that way if some stranger IM’s me? Or is it ok not to be that way and to tell someone that if I’m not interested in striking up a conversation and/or online friendship with a complete stranger 2,000 miles away with whom I have absolutely nothing in common but being online? It sounds more like you’re arguing my side.
Esprix
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### Author:  [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/36 "2001-11-14T00:49:07Z")
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> _Originally posted by **Jackmannii** _
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> By turning her down, you may be propelling her into an alternate relationship…
You mean I turned her lesbo? **SCORE!**
😃
Esprix
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### Author:  [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/37 "2001-11-14T01:44:01Z")
I, too, am disappointed in you, **Esprix**. Clearly, this woman was in desperate need of a Gay Best Friend[sup]tm[/sup], as seen on TV. And where, pray tell, is she to find that in Ohio? Shame on you, **Esprix** , for not conforming to media stereotypes and giving this bored housewife irreverent lessons on her relationships and lovelife. Right now, that disillusioned woman is sitting alone somewhere, thinking “That gay guy wasn’t _anything_ like that nice Will from TV!” Tsk, tsk, **Esprix**. Tsk. Tsk.
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### Author:  [@The\_Raven\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Raven_1)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/38 "2001-11-14T03:58:25Z")
[http://www.theonion.com/onion3707/supportive\_gay\_friend.html](http://www.theonion.com/onion3707/supportive_gay_friend.html)
-Rav
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### Author:  [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/39 "2001-11-14T07:45:41Z")
Why is it I always forget important points until after the fact? ☹
[ul][li]This is The BBQ Pit. One of the things we do in The BBQ Pit is bitch about life’s little (and large) annoyances. (Funny how you have an entire thread dedicated to your very self about that, but I digress.) I do hope you’ll be popping into Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share and complaining to all those people that annoy you for posting mundane pointless stuff they feel the need to share, and Great Debates so that you may also rail against those who debate great topics. Perhaps those that question in General Questions annoy you as well? And I’m sure you’re ever so tired about questions regarding this message board in About This Message Board.[/li]
[li]I wanted to reiterate that I was unsure why you resorted to a personal attack. It would be one thing to say, “It is my opinion that you complain too much,” but instead you decided to go right for those over-the-top arguments - “call the Feds,” “constantly bitching,” and so forth\*. Nicely played, but do you really think such inanity and superfluousness is going to fly around these parts?[/li]
[li]I don’t expect you’ll be posting in reply (or, if you do, it’ll be one of your “pithy retorts” :rolleyes: , or, perhaps, one of your little buddies will come in and tell us all what awful, hypocritical meanies we are for daring to come down on you for coming down on us). Please, feel free to reinforce what we all know about you - that you’re an annoying little coward whose “arguments” couldn’t hold air in a scuba tank.[/ul][/li]
Thanks much.
Esprix
(\*Question to more knowledgable posters - would these kinds of arguments qualify as straw men, _ad hominem_ or slippery slope? Wasn’t sure how [Stephen’s Guide](http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/toc.htm) would rightly classify them.)
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### Author:  [@Civil\_Defense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Defense)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/40 "2001-11-14T07:49:16Z")
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> (\*Question to more knowledgable posters - would these kinds of arguments qualify as straw men, ad hominem or slippery slope? Wasn’t sure how Stephen’s Guide would rightly classify them.)
In regards to **Bossk** , straw men is the best description I can attribute for the situation.
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