# And I would know you from...?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 13, 2001, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049 "2001-11-13T02:51:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Bossk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bossk)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/41 "2001-11-14T08:41:54Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Civil Defense \*
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> In regards to **Bossk** , straw men is the best description I can attribute for the situation. \*\*
Sit down, boy.
I’m speaking to the organ grinder in this thread.
When I want to talk to the monkey, I’ll let you know.
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### Author:  [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/42 "2001-11-14T08:49:53Z")
that is amazingly, astoundingly sad.
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### Author:  [@Civil\_Defense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Defense)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/43 "2001-11-14T08:51:07Z")
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> Sit down, boy.
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> I’m speaking to the organ grinder in this thread.
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> When I want to talk to the monkey, I’ll let you know.
I don’t believe I was speaking to you. I was responding to a question posed by Esprix towards the more knowledgable posters-- apparently, a question you would be unable to answer.
Now, kindly fuck off. Troll.
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### Author:  [@Bossk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bossk)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/44 "2001-11-14T10:09:29Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Esprix \*
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> If anyone wants to pull up a chair, please feel free. Sadly, at the moment I have to go to sleep, for I do have a new job to start in the morning \*\*
Yeah, I wish _I_ qualified for affirmative action, too.
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> \*\*My god, **Bossk** , you _are_ an annoying little fuck, ain’tcha? \*\*
Well, that’s all relative. Some people hate the smell of garlic. Me? I hate _Full House_ reruns and _Hideous Kinky_.
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> You and I had absolutely no contact whatsoever until you chose, unprovoked, to mock my web page in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=94785). I asked you what you meant, but let it slide.
You tried to save yourself by saying you were playing a role. But, you know what, Olivier? It’s still tacky. And if you posted a pic of Al Pacino sucking his thumb on _your_ webpage, it would still be tacky. And baby, you are no Pacino.
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> It might also behoove you to keep in mind that what you are doing is called trolling (particularly because you’re so persistent at it), and by doing so you’re violating the Prime Directive of the SDMB - “Don’t be a jerk.” I of course leave it to the mods to decide if or when you cross the line, but don’t say nobody told you.
Sorry, but I know better. I’ve had my bible studies. In the book of Revelation, the prophet warned me of false
moderators. J’Accuse, Esprix!
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> Is this where I call you a Nazi in turn?
No, you can’t call me a Nazi. Any more than I could call you a drama queen or a blowhard. See? It would be hate speech.
Let’s not go there. We could say things we might regret.
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> And I’ve come to the conclusion that in order to make your little world go round, you need to be constantly harping on others for expressing their opinions while you mastrubate wildly (and loudly, I’m sure) to _Star Wars_ Luke/Leia slash fanfic.
Ooookay. That was just a little stupid. Maybe you should have gotten some more sleep. FYI, I only masturbate to Debi Diamond and Rachel Ryan and a few select she-males.
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> You want to see cultural enlightenment? You want to see how _I’ve_ contributed to this board? Click on any one of the _four_ links in my sig to see what I’ve done for the people around here and the fight against ignorance.
I’d click that link, but I see it has disappeared from your sig. And I just don’t have the energy to scroll up, Spartacus.
I spend most of my SDMB time contributing to film threads in CAFE SOCIETY and, if I know the answer, to the GENERAL QUESTIONS board. By the way, you are invited to watch _Tree of the Wooden Clogs_ with me any time. I hope you like subtitles, cutie.
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> In short, you are certainly a most annoying little gnat who has yet to justify his existence here, particularly considering you’re giving a whole lot of people good reason to want to see you gone.
Yeah, the Pharasies said the same thing about Jesus.
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> You’re not funny, you’re not particularly smart, you’re not witty, you’re just… annoying. Care to tell us why?
Ummmm, Tom Green and Drew Barrymore have given me hope?
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### Author:  [@meyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meyer)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/45 "2001-11-14T11:29:09Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Bossk \*
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> > \*Originally posted by Esprix \*
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> > If anyone wants to pull up a chair, please feel free. Sadly, at the moment I have to go to sleep, for I do have a new job to start in the morning \*\*
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> Yeah, I wish _I_ qualified for affirmative action, too.
I don’t know either of you from a hole in the ground, but this is the most hateful thing I have ever heard on these boards. I know anyone who said this in real life (not to mention some of the other things you’ve said) would be richly deserving of a solid thunder kick to the groin.
You’ve been here less time than I have, and already you assume to know the regulars and horn in on every single thread. Someone please warn me if I somehow morph into a person who sees this as appropriate.:rolleyes:
Good luck with your new job, **Esprix** 😃
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### Author:  [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/46 "2001-11-14T15:15:58Z")
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> Originally posted by Esprix
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> > If anyone wants to pull up a chair, please feel free. Sadly, at the moment I have to go to sleep, for I do have a new job to start in the morning
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> BossK’s response
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> > Yeah, I wish I qualified for affirmative action, too.
This is hardly the most hateful comment I’ve read here, but it IS pretty freakin’ stupid. Gay folks don’t qualify for affirmative action. In fact, it’s legal to discriminate against gays in most of the United States. It’s legal to fire folks for being gay, it’s legal to not rent to gays. Can’t get married, can’t adopt, can’t inherit, can’t file joint income tax returns, can’t get counted as family for hospital visits, and so on. (Caveat: I know that SOME jurisdictions do allow gay adoptions, but it’s not universal.)
Yes, **Esprix** can be a drama queen, but that’s just one of the many reasons we love him. He’s witty, kind, and generally swell. It’s prerogative to accept or to not accept IMs from strangers. IMHO, not accepting is the prudent way to go.
I don’t get a good chunk of **BossK’s** ravings, erm, posts.
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> By the way, you are invited to watch Tree of the Wooden Clogs with me any time. I hope you like subtitles, cutie
What has watching foreign language films to do with IMs from some bored Ohio hausfrau? Are you trying to claim some intellectual edge over **Esprix** because you read subtitles? Most of us here are fans of Kurosawa, Fellini, Bava, or Herzog fans, so you’re not as special as you think you are.
And comparing yourself to Jesus, WTF?
You need new material, **BossK**.
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### Author:  [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/47 "2001-11-14T17:14:13Z")
Well, at least the little skidmark responded.
And, um, [sub]that part about Tom Green and Drew Barrymore _was_ kind of funny[/sub]. But no other part of that post was in any way clever or amusing!
And I still think he’s a jerk.
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### Author:  [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/48 "2001-11-14T19:03:29Z")
Sorry, I was just ignoring Bossk in my earlier post. I didn’t realize we were all going to start **feeding** him.
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### Author:  [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/49 "2001-11-14T19:33:05Z")
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> I replaced it with a long missive about Greco-Roman wrestling, ska music, and some lyrics.
So, **Ace309** , where do you stand on the “Which came first: Reggae or Ska?” issue?
Oh, and Esprix, you’re a pompous, conceited, whiney little jerk-off who likes to piss on other people to make yourself feel important. Fuck off and then go fuck yourself.
DaLovin’ Dj
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### Author:  [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/50 "2001-11-14T19:59:57Z")
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> Oh, and Esprix, you’re a pompous, conceited, whiney little jerk-off who likes to piss on other people to make yourself feel important.
Huh, up to now I thought I only liked Esprix 'cause he’s got a cute ass. dldj just listed 5 or 6 more good reasons.
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### Author:  [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/51 "2001-11-14T20:03:55Z")
Re ska/regae question: Neither
Both styles evolved in parallel, descending from calypso and from mento, a Jamaican Euro/Afro blend of folk music in the 20s.
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> From _[Wake the Town and Tell the People](http://ska.about.com/library/2000/aa082900a.htm)_, by Norman Stolzoff
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> Mento, the most popular social dance music of the day, was a creolized version of European- and African-derived styles. It was performed by ensembles that combined European instruments, such as the fiddle, flute and guitar, with instruments “wholly or partly of African origin,” such as the banjo, rhumba box, drums, rattle, and scraper. In this sense, the origins of mento parallel those of popular dance music throughout the Caribbean, such as merengue, calypso, and konpa, which arose out of similar processes of musical creolization…
You also left out dub, rock steady, and two-tone. The study of the history of Jamaican music, and Caribbean music overall, is endlessly fascinating. I and I wish you irie and iration wit’ da blessings of the great Lion of Judah, Ras Tafari Hailie Selassie.
Anyhoo, I hope **DalovinDj** and **Esprix** can bury the hatchet (NOT in each other). You are both intelligent and cool men, both flowing with virtues and goodness, who I would be happy to hang with on a Saturday night.
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### Author:  [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/52 "2001-11-14T20:06:25Z")
Fercryinoutloud, **dj** , why did you feel it necessary to do this?
Given the history between you two, I’d say this comes remarkably close to trolling.
Way to take the high road, dude.
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### Author:  [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/53 "2001-11-14T20:12:23Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Esprix \*
> \*\* **what the fuck is your damage?**
> Esprix \*\*
Ummm… **Esprix**? I believe the currently acceptable form of this question is actually the following:
_ **God… WHAT is your childhood trauma???** _
Follow up during the stunned silence with:
_ **Whatever is causing the Joan Collins 'tude, deal with it. Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever. But get over it.** _
Just trying to help. Not that you need it. Just thought I’d… well… never mind.
-BK
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### Author:  [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/54 "2001-11-14T20:26:16Z")
Hey, **Bossk** - thanks for disappointing! Really came through and proved my point there. You rock!
Hey, **dalovindj** - thanks for disappointing! Every time I forget about you, you come back to remind me that, yes, you still don’t like me (even though I don’t go out of my way to do the same to you). You rock!
**bobkitty** , it’s a little wordy, but I like it…
Esprix
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### Author:  [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/55 "2001-11-14T20:34:32Z")
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> Fercryinoutloud, dj, why did you feel it necessary to do this?
Well, **Ferrous** , I was steadily engaging in letting our little disputes die. I wasn’t going to post anything in this thread (aside from the reggae bit) until I came across this little chunk of spite:
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> Combined with several other pissants, I posted a general call for armistice in this thread, and although I never mentioned you by name, you assumed (correctly) you were one of my intended target audience (and you didn’t disappoint in your reply, just to make sure).
\*I find it really funny, in a pot and kettle sort of way, that he refers to a thread where he asked people to stop taking unwarranted digs at him, as he takes an unwarranted dig at me (calling me a pissant), one of the “targets” of said thread. So instead of letting it go, I fight back. Sue me.
**gobear** , that was a perfect response. You are constantly impressing me with your intelligent and enlightened posts. Glad to hear you like the reggae. Big up. The only Love that’s righteous is Da’ Love of Jah.
DaLovin’ Dj
\*Nitpick - What Esprix actually said here was different, I believe, than what he meant. What he _said_ implies he, a pissant, made a post with the support of the other pissants: “Combined with several other pissants, I” Interesting mix that would be, a double shot of pissant I guess. What he _meant_, was that his thread was intended for us pissants. :rolleyes:.
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### Author:  [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/56 "2001-11-14T20:58:14Z")
Ech. Fair enough.
However, speaking for myself only, it’s no longer any fun watching you two snipe at each other. Not that there’s any reason you should care, but I would personally consider you a bigger man if you would just let it go.
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### Author:  [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/57 "2001-11-14T21:03:36Z")
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> _Originally posted by **dalovindj** _
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> I find it really funny, in a pot and kettle sort of way, that he refers to a thread where he asked people to stop taking unwarranted digs at him, as he takes an unwarranted dig at me (calling me a pissant), one of the “targets” of said thread. So instead of letting it go, I fight back. Sue me.
And, _at the time_, you _were_ being a little prick to me - instead of meeting me head-on at the time, you chose to start digging at me in unrelated threads, which is why I was asking you to step off in the first place. For my part, I was doing my best just to avoid you, as I’d already said what I had to say (you remember, in that thread you didn’t deem worthy enough to respond in), but you kept, and keep, picking at the scab (and if you provoke me, I cannot believe you don’t know by now that I will respond in kind).
Let it fucking go - I have.
Esprix
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### Author:  [@BuddhaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BuddhaDog)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/58 "2001-11-14T21:04:01Z")
[ul]
[li]Pompous? [Check](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=98808)[/li]
[li]Conceited? [Check](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=95304) [Double Check](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=93226) Hell, all one has to do is read is .sig![/li]
[li][whiney](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=95772)[little](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=98498) [jerk](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=95304) [-off](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=97400) who likes to [piss](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=95304) on [other](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=97629)[people](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=95051) to make yourself [feel](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=93927) [important](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=98498).[/ul][/li]
While I might not agree with everything **dalovindj** says I will agree with him on this. **Alan** , please step off your soapbox for just a day (you might like it). Not everyone is concerned with your (or other peoples) sexual orientation. You could be straight or a dog fucker for all I care, but I gotta agree with **da dj** on this one. The world is a better place when you are not looking down on everyone from your ivory tower. I’ve never met anyone who believed in their own hype as much as you do.
Rock On! :rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/59 "2001-11-14T21:21:36Z")
FTR: I think it _is_ mean of you to be angry with the lonely housewife in Ohio, who just wanted to talk to somebody.
“I’ve got enough friends?”
Loneliness is a really, really sucky thing. So’s needing someone to talk to, and not really having anybody. Been there. _(Note: I’m not there now, in case anyone feels the need to turn me into that little urban legend kid who wanted the greeting cards from all around the world.)_
Of course you shouldn’t have to talk to anybody you don’t want to talk to. But having animosity beyond simply rebuffing her, enough to inspire you to construct a Pit thread? …
And then that it would respond with this:
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> **Esprix** , you rock!
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> [sub]You should just go ahead and change that “Evidiently” to an “Obviously”.[/sub]
Is puzzling.
I always chuckle at these kind of rote responses to certain posters, no matter what they say.
**Beloved Poster** - I killed six puppies today. They were hanging out in my back yard. I called the animal shelter, but I kept getting a busy signal. They looked hungry, and maybe a little sick. So I snapped their necks, one by one, with my bare hands.
**Beloved Poster Fan** - Well, if you did it, I’m sure it was necessary. You’re the best! Don’t go changin’!
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### Author:  [@Venoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Venoma)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2001, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-i-would-know-you-from/93049/60 "2001-11-14T21:37:52Z")
From the OP:
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> Maybe if this hadn’t been the 4,132,897th time someone had IM’d me out of the blue.
I think it’s more about the growing habit of people that do that than about that one housewife. Yeah, she’s the topic, but if she was the ONLY person, the first person, to ever do such a thing, it might not be so damned annoying.
Oh, for the days of IRC, of #funfactory and #norge, where one could direct those people looking for friends.
Getting random IM’s when you’re occupied talking to others ‘feels’ like some strange person walking up and introducing themselves when you’re in a conversation with a friend. ‘finding chat friends’, IMNSHO, is what chat rooms are for. Use IM to talk to people you already know.
(FTR I have always been annoyed by privmsgs from people I’ve had no prior contact with. WTF do you have to say to someone that you haven’t spoken to before that can’t be said in public? oh, ‘a/s/l’? Has anyone ever told you how original you are? No? I see. :rolleyes: )
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