# And John Kasich makes 16 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 21, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801 "2015-07-21T18:01:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/141 "2016-02-22T21:44:37Z")
Other than Medicaid expansion in Ohio, what moderate policies is Kasich associated with? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/142 "2016-02-22T21:55:35Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > They did? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/drGx7JkFSp4/maxresdefault.jpg "Sisters Are Doin’ It For Themselves [Ft. Aretha Franklin] (Official Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drGx7JkFSp4) It was a common turn of phrase describing the fact that women were becoming more engaged in business and political society. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/143 "2016-02-23T15:06:24Z")
I can’t believe Betfair has Kasich at nearly as high odds to win the nomination as Cruz. Now, I’d agree that Cruz’s chances have plummeted, but still: > **[Betfair Exchange | Best Odds Online, Back and Lay Betting](https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.107664938)** > > The Betfair Exchange allows you the opportunity to back and lay bets and Cash Out. We also offer Casino, Poker, Games and Bingo. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/144 "2016-02-23T15:10:16Z")
Trump is [polling ahead of Kasich in Ohio.](http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/trump-kasich-ohio-poll-219633) Also read a Politico article saying that party elders are pushing him hard to drop out and line up behind Marco. Perhaps he’s holding out for a VP offer? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/145 "2016-02-23T15:46:02Z")
Kasich’s super PAC is pouring money into MI and Ohio (possibly due to the new billionaire donor) so he doesn’t seem to be in any hurry to leave. I can’t imagine the field day Trump would have with “Rubio is such a loser, he wasn’t even allowed to pick his own VP. The establishment had to pick it for him because this guy can’t win a single state…” ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/146 "2016-02-23T16:22:17Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Other than Medicaid expansion in Ohio, what moderate policies is Kasich associated with? Most notably is his stance on immigration. He’s not for deporting illegal immigrants, as opposed to Trump and Cruz. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/147 "2016-02-23T19:25:12Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > Trump is [polling ahead of Kasich in Ohio.](http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/trump-kasich-ohio-poll-219633) Also read a Politico article saying that party elders are pushing him hard to drop out and line up behind Marco. Perhaps he’s holding out for a VP offer? No, he’s holding out for Rubio to have a bigger fail and make Kasich the only alternative to Trump or Cruz. Although I do think he’d drop out for a VP offer. There’s been some talk of that over on National Review because it’s such a strong ticket. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/148 "2016-02-23T19:26:26Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > Most notably is his stance on immigration. He’s not for deporting illegal immigrants, as opposed to Trump and Cruz. You mean all of them at once. Everyone is for deporting illegal immigrants, or at least that’s their public position. It is the law, after all. Anyway, it’s not quite time for Kasich to give up yet. After Mar. 1, then it might be time. I think Kasich has to emerge with a couple of wins to justify his continuance in the race. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/149 "2016-02-23T19:50:24Z")
Kasich is ok with illegal immigrants staying as long as they pay back taxes and have no path to citizenship. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/150 "2016-02-23T20:04:06Z")
Which is fairly mainstream. And there’s no such thing as “no path” to citizenship. It just means there’s no special path, they can become citizens by starting over the legal way. The way law abiding immigrants do. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/151 "2016-02-23T23:26:06Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Kasich’s super PAC is pouring money into MI and Ohio (possibly due to the new billionaire donor) so he doesn’t seem to be in any hurry to leave. Or, I could be wrong. This is not the sound of someone in for the long haul… or the medium haul… [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UA4KpI1HDmI/hqdefault.jpg "Kasich: I don't know if my purpose is to be president") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA4KpI1HDmI) ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/152 "2016-02-24T02:33:28Z")
Yes, Rubio-Kasich would be a tough ticket, and if Sanders we’re on the other side it would be almost definitely a winning ticket. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/153 "2016-02-24T03:11:54Z")
Rubio-Kasich is like Bush-Quayle, but with Quayle at the top of the ticket. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/154 "2016-02-24T14:50:38Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Which is fairly mainstream. And there’s no such thing as “no path” to citizenship. It just means there’s no special path, they can become citizens by starting over the legal way. The way law abiding immigrants do. Right, which is why I’m pointing it out as a position in which he is more moderate than his ultra-conservative opponents. And no path to citizenship means never, ever under the Ted Cruz amendment to the bill that did, of course, fail. But the idea remains. He, and probably Trump, would ban illegal immigrants from ever becoming citizens by any path, special or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/155 "2016-02-24T15:33:15Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > The only hope for the Republican establishment at this point is a brokered convention. They need deny Trump as many delegates as possible. This is only going to happen if Cruz stays in and improves his performance, and Rubio steps his game up as well and plucks off a few states. I don’t see it happening. Trump is going to coast to the nomination. Cruz has too much money to drop, and even if he did its not clear Rubio would be the sole beneficiary. Trump is going to go ham on Super Tuesday. Kasich is and always was a non-entity. People keep grasping at straws and substituting wishful thinking for analysis. There won’t be a brokered convention. That would lead to a huge fracture on the right. Not going to happen. And what is a Kasich? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/156 "2016-02-24T15:36:40Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > There won’t be a brokered convention. That would lead to a huge fracture on the right. Why would that be enough to prevent it? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/157 "2016-02-24T15:54:47Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Why would that be enough to prevent it? Maybe it won’t. It’s my opinion that parties are brands more than ideologies and I just don’t see the two bigs being suicidal. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/158 "2016-02-29T00:50:05Z")
Kasich believes that even after losing Super Tuesday, he will have a chance if he wins Ohio. > [@](#): > > “I think Trump’s probably going to win all of them,” Kasich told CNN’s Jake Tapper in an interview that aired Sunday on “State of the Union.” “But you keep holding your own, and we have our campaign plan. Everybody has to do it the way they want to do it.” He also states that he will support the Republican nominee, even if it’s Trump. > [@](#): > > … at the end of the day, I’m going to support that person who went through the arena and became the nominee," Kasich said. I think I no longer believe that Kasich is a sane Republican. [Link](http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/28/politics/john-kasich-donald-trump-super-tuesday/index.html). ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/159 "2016-02-29T01:20:52Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Maybe it won’t. It’s my opinion that parties are brands more than ideologies and I just don’t see the two bigs being suicidal. I’m not sure they can prevent it. Either one candidate will have a majority of the delegates at the convention or not. If not, there will be a brokered convention by definition. Obviously the two big parties don’t want that outcome, but it seems plausible that the mechanisms the GOP put in place to prevent it (loading the back of the calander with winner take all states, trying to consolidate behind one candidate quickly after Super Tuesday) won’t work this cycle. ---
**Author:** ![Loopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loopus/32/15343_2.png) [@Loopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopus)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801/160 "2016-02-29T01:40:44Z")
Yeah it sounds like John Kasich is running for President of Ohio. I almost wonder if he’s just staying in to play **WillFarnaby** ’s game and deny Trump as many delegates as possible. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-john-kasich-makes-16/725801.md?page=9)