# And Now Chris Hardwick \[domestic abuse allegations\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 15, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153 "2018-06-15T15:28:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/661 "2018-07-26T03:49:15Z")
> [@Warm\_blood](#): > > Several of his former long-term lovers have come forward to vouch for his character, though. While this doesn’t necessarily discredit Dykstra’s claims, it would be extraordinarily odd for an alleged abuser to restrict abusive behaviour to just _one_ relationship. > > I’ve also heard that Chloe has been inconsistent in her claims, I haven’t really cared to follow the details of the story and its development so can anyone confirm if her story has indeed significantly changed? She changed “sexually assaulted” to “violated” in her essay and then changed it back again. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/662 "2018-07-26T05:28:44Z")
So, that would be another one for the “life not ruined by just an accusation” column, then. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/663 "2018-07-26T07:01:01Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > So, that would be another one for the “life not ruined by just an accusation” column, then. I dunno. Some people around here still believe her, meaning he’s guilty of everything she accused him of. Some people will always believe he’s guilty no matter how innocent he actually is. It’s pretty hard to fully recover from a false accusation, so no, your minimizing the experience is pretty heartless. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/664 "2018-07-26T07:51:09Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > It’s pretty hard to fully recover from a false accusation, so no, your minimizing the experience is pretty heartless. Look, here’s the tiny violin I’m playing for the Chris Hardwicks of the world. Can you hear it? But yeah - this is fun, how the target moves - “Oh, no, false accusations are the worst thing ever - they’ll totally ruin this poor innocent guy for life” “But he got his show back” “Nope, ruined for life - never fully recover” ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/665 "2018-07-26T13:34:07Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I dunno. Some people around here still believe her, meaning he’s guilty of everything she accused him of. Some people will always believe he’s guilty no matter how innocent he actually is. It’s pretty hard to fully recover from a false accusation, so no, your minimizing the experience is pretty heartless. And exactly what impact will it have on his life if a lot of strangers believe her? He’s very wealthy, it won’t impact him economically. He has his show back. In the internet era, even racist Nazi bastards have a platform. He’s married, so it won’t impact his ability to pick up women (I assume his marriage is monogamous). He might not sit on as many convention panels, but conventions have their own problems with both diversity and misogyny, so if he doesn’t, it may be Comic Con deciding that they want fewer white men on panels. He lives a public life. I don’t like Julia Roberts because of her actions towards her now-husband’s wife when he was still married to her. Doesn’t impact her life at all. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/666 "2018-07-26T15:27:39Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I dunno. Some people around here still believe her, meaning he’s guilty of everything she accused him of. Some people will always believe he’s guilty no matter how innocent he actually is. It’s pretty hard to fully recover from a false accusation, so no, your minimizing the experience is pretty heartless. What new information has been revealed so far to suggest she wasn’t telling the truth? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/667 "2018-07-26T16:05:42Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > She changed “sexually assaulted” to “violated” in her essay and then changed it back again. From the blog post: > [@](#): > > (July 7th) EDIT to address the change in my essay: > > I had kept the words “sexually assault” in my piece since the very first draft. Before posting, I got cold feet and was pressured to change it to “sexually violate” out of fear of backlash. When it posted unlisted, the edit did not save- and I’m grateful it didn’t, because it did not allow me to back away from my original statement. When I decided to “publish” it properly (make it “listed” instead of unlisted), it changed the words back to “sexually violate”. I immediately went to rectify it as quickly as I could. I stand by my statement ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/668 "2018-07-26T17:14:44Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > And exactly what impact will it have on his life if a lot of strangers believe her? He’s very wealthy, it won’t impact him economically. He has his show back. In the internet era, even racist Nazi bastards have a platform. He’s married, so it won’t impact his ability to pick up women (I assume his marriage is monogamous). > > He might not sit on as many convention panels, but conventions have their own problems with both diversity and misogyny, so if he doesn’t, it may be Comic Con deciding that they want fewer white men on panels. > > He lives a public life. I don’t like Julia Roberts because of her actions towards her now-husband’s wife when he was still married to her. Doesn’t impact her life at all. You have no concept of the meaning of pride or honour. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/669 "2018-07-26T17:17:35Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > What new information has been revealed so far to suggest she wasn’t telling the truth? How about AMC would likely have sided with her if their investigation suggested she was telling the truth. A well regarded and female lawyer and investigator, one with much experience in he entertainment realm, where false allegations can run rampant, didn’t find her story to be credible. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/670 "2018-07-26T17:18:36Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > From the blog post: Your point? She admitted she changed it. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/671 "2018-07-26T17:51:48Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > A well regarded and female lawyer and investigator, one with much experience in he entertainment realm, where false allegations can run rampant, didn’t find her story to be credible. Bullshit. There was no verbiage on the credibility of Dykstra’s story in AMC’s statement. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/672 "2018-07-26T17:59:50Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > You have no concept of the meaning of pride or honour. Do not personalize your arguments in this fashion. If you feel you must, the Pit is right around the corner. * * * On a side note, has this thread about run its course? It’s already been bumped the requisite one time, and barring new information, it does seem like a lot of talking past each other.[/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/673 "2018-07-26T18:32:09Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Your point? She admitted she changed it. She admitted she changed it but was happy the changes didn’t go through. When the changes went through, she changed it back. So my point was she has stayed mostly steady on her story. What was your point again? ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/674 "2018-07-26T19:07:04Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > You have no concept of the meaning of pride or honour. I beg your pardon? ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/675 "2018-07-26T19:49:22Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Bullshit. There was no verbiage on the credibility of Dykstra’s story in AMC’s statement. Bullshit yourself. If AMC would have found Chloe’s story credible, Chris wouldn’t have got his job back. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/676 "2018-07-26T19:50:44Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > Do not personalize your arguments in this fashion. If you feel you must, the Pit is right around the corner. > > * * * > > On a side note, has this thread about run its course? It’s already been bumped the requisite one time, and barring new information, it does seem like a lot of talking past each other.[/moderating] No offense, Bone, but I think you should let people speak. It’s how ideas develop. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/677 "2018-07-26T19:52:04Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > She admitted she changed it but was happy the changes didn’t go through. When the changes went through, she changed it back. So my point was she has stayed mostly steady on her story. What was your point again? Somebody wanted to know if her story changes at all and the answer is yes, yes it did. Changing it back means it changed twice. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/678 "2018-07-26T19:54:18Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > I beg your pardon? You seem to be saying because Chris Hardwick got his job back there was no harm done. I’m calling bullshit on that. As evidenced by this very forum, even if you’re innocent some people will still think you’re guilty. It’s not about money FFS. It’s about pride. It’s about honour. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/679 "2018-07-26T19:54:21Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Bullshit yourself. If AMC would have found Chloe’s story credible, Chris wouldn’t have got his job back. Says you. AMC didn’t say that. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/680 "2018-07-26T20:00:18Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Somebody wanted to know if her story changes at all and the answer is yes, yes it did. Changing it back means it changed twice. That’s a load of crap. While changing “assault” to “violation” may have some differences in the legal world it’s not remotely a change in her story. Are you saying honestly that an accusation of sexual violating is any different than an accusation of sexual assaulting in normal English? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153.md?page=35)