# And Now Chris Hardwick \[domestic abuse allegations\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 15, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153 "2018-06-15T15:28:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/81 "2018-06-15T20:28:57Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > I would like to see some evidence before I believe either. Believe whatever you want to believe. But why cast aspersions on her with no basis? Why not give victims and survivors the freedom and space to tell their stories however they’re most comfortable? ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/82 "2018-06-15T20:29:15Z")
At the end of the article she implies she has proof of his abuse, should he want to take this to the next level. Also, he made a horrible comment IN FRONT OF HER MOTHER about how soon he could have sex with her after her surgery for an ectopic pregnancy. As far as career destroying, she says she was blacklisted after she broke up with him. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/83 "2018-06-15T20:29:33Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Again. If she had come out and said **Hardwicke** did this this and this I would view this differently. Its much less convincing making accusations without naming the accuser. Could you at least spell the man’s name correctly? It’s HARDWICK no “e” on the end. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/84 "2018-06-15T20:29:49Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > What does Dykstra have to do with this discussion? Apologies…for some reason I thought you were referring to Lenny Dykstra. My bad. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/85 "2018-06-15T20:30:00Z")
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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/86 "2018-06-15T20:31:04Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Could you at least spell the man’s name correctly? It’s HARDWICK no “e” on the end. Apologies to Hardwick too. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/87 "2018-06-15T20:34:01Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Believe whatever you want to believe. But why cast aspersions on her with no basis? Why not give victims and survivors the freedom and space to tell their stories however they’re most comfortable? When did I say she couldn’t tell her story? All I have claimed is that we need more information before we believe her accusations. All accused people have this right imo. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/88 "2018-06-15T20:35:00Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > I would like to see some evidence before I believe either. He hasn’t said anything, so the only person you’re not believing is the person who came forward. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/89 "2018-06-15T20:35:28Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > At the end of the article she implies she has proof of his abuse, should he want to take this to the next level. Also, he made a horrible comment IN FRONT OF HER MOTHER about how soon he could have sex with her after her surgery for an ectopic pregnancy. > > As far as career destroying, she says she was blacklisted after she broke up with him. She could have taken this to the next level by actually suing him. If he harmed her career she has a solid foundation for a lawsuit. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/90 "2018-06-15T20:38:47Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > When did I say she couldn’t tell her story? All I have claimed is that we need more information before we believe her accusations. All accused people have this right imo. You’ve criticized her for the way she told her story. You said she should have done it differently. That’s more than just asking people to wait before making a judgment, and IMO it’s wrong and harmful to future victims and survivors. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/91 "2018-06-15T20:38:48Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > He hasn’t said anything, so the only person you’re not believing is the person who came forward. I’m not not believing…in waiting for more information to come in. It might be a nitpick. Most of her allegations are relationship based and there are always two sides to the story. She hasn’t accused him of committing any crime. Had she I would have also been more likely to believe her initial account. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/92 "2018-06-15T20:41:01Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > You’ve criticized her for the way she told her story. You said she should have done it differently. That’s more than just asking people to wait before making a judgment, and IMO it’s wrong and harmful to future victims and survivors. Disagree. If she had come out and said Chris Hardwick did these things to me then I would agree with you. She tried to accuse him without naming him. I don’t agree with this and thinking weasely. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/93 "2018-06-15T20:41:22Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > I’m not not believing…in waiting for more information to come in. It might be a nitpick. Most of her allegations are relationship based and there are always two sides to the story. She hasn’t accused him of committing any crime. Had she I would have also been more likely to believe her initial account. Wait for information all you want… but why are you criticizing her simply for the way she told her story? If victims and survivors don’t feel free to tell their stories however they’re most comfortable without being criticized immediately (like you have done), then they’re less likely to come forward in the future. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/94 "2018-06-15T20:42:23Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Disagree. If she had come out and said Chris Hardwick did these things to me then I would agree with you. She tried to accuse him without naming him. I don’t agree with this and thinking weasely. So you’re making a choice to make it less likely victims and survivors come forward in the future. That’s terrible and harmful for society. There’s nothing wrong with people telling their stories however they’re most comfortable, and that means they are free to name or not name their abusers if they wish. Criticizing them for doing it a certain way is wrong and harmful. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/95 "2018-06-15T20:42:45Z")
I apologize for monopolizing this thread. I know My opinion is a minority one and I will listen to what others say and keep thinking this through. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/96 "2018-06-15T20:43:54Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Wait for information all you want… but why are you criticizing her simply for the way she told her story? If victims and survivors don’t feel free to tell their stories however they’re most comfortable without being criticized immediately (like you have done), then they’re less likely to come forward in the future. You assume she is a victim. This has yet to be determined. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/97 "2018-06-15T20:45:26Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > I apologize for monopolizing this thread. I know My opinion is a minority one and I will listen to what others say and keep thinking this through. Okay. While you’re thinking, please try to imagine someone who endured some terrible treatment, and is trying to gather up the strength to tell her story. Maybe she feels like she could tell her story publicly, but she’s not comfortable yet with naming names, because she might lose her job or worse. And imagine she comes upon this thread, and considers that she might be better off staying silent, lest folks jump all over her simply because she told her story in a way that they don’t like. > [@madsircool](#): > > You assume she is a victim. This has yet to be determined. I haven’t assumed anything. I’m simply saying that it’s wrong to criticize someone for telling a story a certain way, unless there’s very good reason to believe they’re being dishonest. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/98 "2018-06-15T20:46:40Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Just seems to me that anorexia in a woman whose job is dressing up as sexy comic book characters might not be your classic anorexia. But what do I know? If you mean that it’s self induced due to what she does for a living, rather than being a manifestation of something other mental illness, sure. But in either case, you’re still starving your brain of what it needs to properly function. You can take a person that’s physically and mentally healthy in every way and have them (voluntarily) underfeed themselves. Within a matter of months they’ll show signs of depression, loss of mental acuity, lack of energy to do much of anything etc. IOW, the things that happen to your body and mind because of starvation are going to be similar regardless of the reason that you’re not eating. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/99 "2018-06-15T20:48:27Z")
I believe her. Also, there have been several prominent tweets posted today by people that have worked w/ Hardwick and they’re not surprised and are happy it’s all finally coming to light. Here are the main two tweets I saw: > > I’ve always found Hardwick offputting. His fake smile that always looks like he’s sniffing a dog turd and his general obsession with fame has been obvious for some time. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153/100 "2018-06-15T20:50:39Z")
I kind of liked his @midnight show. But that’s irrelevant to my opinion of these accusations, and especially to how wrong it is to cast aspersions on accusers for nothing more than the way they tell their story. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-chris-hardwick-domestic-abuse-allegations/816153.md?page=6)