# And now, for something completely different! (Discuss Idiocracy, the movie) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 17, 2019, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681 "2019-04-17T17:14:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/21 "2019-04-18T06:46:46Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > This right here is why I get annoyed whenever I see someone compare Trump to President Camacho. We’d be way better off if Trump were as “stupid” as President Camacho. The proper comparison isn’t Camacho and trump. It’s the people that voted for trump and the average citizen in the movie. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/22 "2019-04-18T07:16:33Z")
I must be one of the few people who enjoyed this movie for itself without worrying too much about the deeper message. I get what the satire is of course, but as an amusing story with some great quotes I’ll always happily sit and watch if I come across it channel hopping. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/23 "2019-04-18T11:28:24Z")
Actually, I think the movie makes its point fairly clear. The real critique of the movie - other than the broad ones - is in the audience reaction. It provides an excuse for certain people to feel superior to the masses even when they are part of the masses. A great part of the intended reaction to the movie is for people to point and mock the stupidity of the people in it. That’s fine. But that doesn’t actually make the people doing the mockery any better or smarter than the people being mocked. The people who say things like, “Yes, this is where we’re heading” would be the ones bringing us there if we were actually going there. But we’re not, of course. The world gets smarter and more accomplished every decade. We make dumb decisions sometimes, as a group, but in general the trend is upward. Art becomes better at expression, technology becomes more convenient and useful and society becomes more open. The movie really serves as a foil to allow those who feel a need to be superior to feel that way. It’s not unlike that XKCD cartoon that shows a subway car where each person is feeling superior to the ‘sheep’ around them. > **[Sheeple](https://xkcd.com/610/)** > > Hey, what are the odds -- five Ayn Rand fans on the same train! Must be going to a convention. We’re all in this together, my friends. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/24 "2019-04-18T13:13:52Z")
No, you are all wrong! 😃 The real critique is that the movie doesn’t show people on the internet all day arguing about trivial matters. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/25 "2019-04-18T14:54:26Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > No, you are all wrong! 😃 > > The real critique is that the movie doesn’t show people on the internet all day arguing about trivial matters. Can’t post. ‘Batin’. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/26 "2019-04-18T16:45:29Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > No, you are all wrong! 😃 > > The real critique is that the movie doesn’t show people on the internet all day arguing about trivial matters. Naw, that would require reading words like some kind of fag. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/27 "2019-04-18T17:13:27Z")
And your shit’s all retarded. ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/28 "2019-04-18T18:58:34Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > And your shit’s all retarded. Wait, do you like sex AND money? Me too! ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/29 "2019-04-18T19:59:49Z")
It’s not a bad movie, but I feel like they ran out of good jokes after the first 15 minutes. If you ever want to see something hilarious and totally not safe for work look up the Brawndo commercial on Youtube. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/30 "2019-04-18T20:36:55Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > If you ever want to see something hilarious and totally not safe for work look up the Brawndo commercial on Youtube. Its got electrolytes. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/31 "2019-04-18T22:02:25Z")
But the movie isn’t about _them_. It’s about _us_. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/32 "2019-04-18T23:35:59Z")
There are a few priceless, life-imitates-art moments: - The tower clock blinking 12:00. There’s a working class town near Baltimore that has a tower clock that’s pretty much always wrong. - When it came out in 2005, Jesse Ventura had already been mentioned as a future presidential candidate. Anyone want to bet how long until a porn star steps up? But the overall product just doesn’t cut it. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/33 "2019-04-19T15:46:00Z")
> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#): > > There are a few priceless, life-imitates-art moments: > > - The tower clock blinking 12:00. There’s a working class town near Baltimore that has a tower clock that’s pretty much always wrong. > > - When it came out in 2005, Jesse Ventura had already been mentioned as a future presidential candidate. Anyone want to bet how long until a porn star steps up? > > But the overall product just doesn’t cut it. And on that note: Camacho’s speech to Congress, where he starts off, “Shit. I know shit’s fucked up right now…” As they pan around, you see that’s literally what’s on his Teleprompter. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/sGUNPMPrxvA/maxresdefault.jpg "President Camacho's State of the Union") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGUNPMPrxvA) ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/34 "2019-04-22T01:14:25Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Its got electrolytes. What plants crave. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/35 "2019-05-30T08:29:27Z")
Re-opening this pseudo-zombie because by coincidence I also saw this 13 year-old movie recently. I disagree with those who say it ran out of steam after the first 15 minutes – I thought it was all great, apart from maybe the finale where it dipped a little. For example, the scene where he’s trying to convince the senators to use water instead of brawndo is about 2/3 in, and is arguably the best scene in the movie. Terry Crews doesn’t appear until the second half I think and he’s in great form in this movie (I also enjoyed Dax’s performance (the lawyer)). Altogether the running time went by very fast for me. And I am going to admit I cracked up laughing when they showed the guy getting hit in the balls TV show. So…I guess I’m part of the problem 😃 I have recommended the movie to a couple of chinese friends. That’ll be interesting…their society does not share many of the same concerns that this movie is based on, although some of course are universal. ---
**Author:** ![flaming\_yawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cab0a1/32.png) [@flaming\_yawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flaming_yawn)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/36 "2019-05-30T12:40:53Z")
This movie is quoted in our house at least once every 2 weeks. “Water? Like what’s in the toilet?” ---
**Author:** ![Mcmechanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Mcmechanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mcmechanic)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/37 "2019-06-01T05:03:18Z")
Here in one of the fly-over states, we even enjoy this movie. My trump supporter friends see it as an indictment as to the reality of progressive policies over time, and that’s hilarious evidently. I tend to just laugh along with them, for different reasons. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/38 "2019-06-01T06:30:03Z")
It’s not a documentary? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/39 "2019-06-01T18:55:11Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > It’s not a documentary? 😕 It, as is the case with most dystopian sci-fi, is a warning. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-for-something-completely-different-discuss-idiocracy-the-movie/832681/40 "2019-06-13T02:09:03Z")
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