# And now, the other side: Things that bug you about Star Wars. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 25, 2003, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442 "2003-05-25T19:36:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![TwungTister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbce88/32.png) [@TwungTister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwungTister)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/161 "2003-05-29T17:16:45Z")
Wronger yet! How could you not see Obi-wan’s empty cloak and Yoda dematerializing? **Nobody notices**! But Vader is cremated. ---
**Author:** ![TwungTister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbce88/32.png) [@TwungTister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwungTister)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/162 "2003-05-29T17:18:46Z")
Wronger yet! How could you not see Obi-wan’s empty cloak and Yoda dematerializing? **Nobody notices this**! But Vader is cremated. ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/163 "2003-05-29T17:38:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TwungTister \* > **Wronger yet! How could you not see Obi-wan’s empty cloak and Yoda dematerializing? Nobody notices this!** This never bothered me, since I didn’t see them so much as dying as “becoming one with the Force.” It’s been a while since I’ve watched it, but I’m pretty sure in Ep. IV, Obi Wan dematerializes BEFORE Vader’s saber strikes. From the look he gives Luke it’s pretty clear he knows what he’s doing. Of course, now that we know that the Jedi are not tuned into the primal mystical force of the universe, but are in fact suffering from some sort of viral infection, that makes no sense. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/164 "2003-05-29T17:45:35Z")
> [@](#): > > Of course, now that we know that the Jedi are not tuned into the primal mystical force of the universe, but are in fact suffering from some sort of viral infection, that makes no sense. It’s a testament to Lucas’s incompetence that he managed to make something _mystical_ into utter nonsense by explaining it _scientifically_. Usually, things work the other way 'round. Boffo job, George. ---
**Author:** ![Sock\_Munkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Sock\_Munkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sock_Munkey)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/165 "2003-05-29T21:20:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TwungTister \* > \*\*Wronger yet! How could you not see Obi-wan’s empty cloak and Yoda dematerializing? **Nobody notices this**! > > But Vader is cremated. \*\* Vader may very well have faded away leaving just his armor which is all we see of him on the fire. ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/166 "2003-05-29T22:06:47Z")
> [@](#): > > Of course, now that we know that the Jedi are not tuned into the primal mystical force of the universe, but are in fact suffering from some sort of viral infection, that makes no sense. Is it possible that the midichlorans aren’t the cause of someone’s sensitivity to the force, but rather a symptom observed in those that are strong with the force (i.e. the midichlorans aren’t what give you force powers, they’re just a side effect of your body channeling this mystical primal force of the universe so well)? I mean, I haven’t seen episode 1 since it came out, so I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/167 "2003-05-29T22:11:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sock Munkey \* > \*\*Vader may very well have faded away leaving just his armor which is all we see of him on the fire. \*\* No. He definitely does NOT dissolve. We see his face as he dies. I imagine this is one of the drawbacks of being a Sith; you have to burn out because you can’t fade away. ---
**Author:** ![Parallax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbce88/32.png) [@Parallax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Parallax)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/168 "2003-05-29T22:36:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rubystreak \* > \*\*No. He definitely does NOT dissolve. We see his face as he dies. I imagine this is one of the drawbacks of being a Sith; you have to burn out because you can’t fade away. \*\* Maybe it just takes longer to fade away… ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/169 "2003-05-29T22:41:13Z")
[80’s rock and roll] IT’S A PYROMANIA! [/8rar] ---
**Author:** ![BellaVoce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c0e974/32.png) [@BellaVoce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellaVoce)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/170 "2003-05-30T01:11:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Senator Binks? Please. It isn’t any worse than President Bush. ---
**Author:** ![captainQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@captainQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/captainQwark)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/171 "2003-05-30T01:15:35Z")
what about Han saying "where’d you dig that old fossil? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/172 "2003-05-30T01:20:23Z")
And of course, the line that someone says in _every_ movie: _ **I’ve got a bad feeling about this…** _ ---
**Author:** ![BuckleberryFerry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BuckleberryFerry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BuckleberryFerry)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/173 "2003-05-30T01:23:18Z")
…I rather like that line… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/174 "2003-05-30T01:25:07Z")
I know ---
**Author:** ![BuckleberryFerry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BuckleberryFerry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BuckleberryFerry)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/175 "2003-05-30T01:28:02Z")
**NoClueBoy** , being replied to by you isn’t quite enough to get me excited. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/176 "2003-05-30T01:31:01Z")
Would you rather kiss a wookie? It could be arranged. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/177 "2003-05-30T02:03:10Z")
The disappearing bodies is going to be explained in Episode III. It’s some ancient secret, supposedly, that the Jedi of old were able to do, or something. I’m not going to complain about Ewan as Obi Wan. Yummy. Although, couldn’t George have had Ewan’s shirt ripped off like he did with Natalie’s? C’mon, how about something for us gals? ---
**Author:** ![BuckleberryFerry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BuckleberryFerry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BuckleberryFerry)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/178 "2003-05-30T02:03:45Z")
You make it so difficult sometimes. But seriously, folks, I’d like to ask if anyone knows the specifics regarding Anakin’s “birth,” so I can form an opinion on the midichlorians. Please. ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/179 "2003-05-30T02:33:19Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s some ancient secret, supposedly “Ancient Chinese secret, huh?” Maybe it has something to do with Calgon, is what I’m saying. > [@](#): > > I’m not going to complain about Ewan as Obi Wan. Yummy. Although, couldn’t George have had Ewan’s shirt ripped off like he did with Natalie’s? C’mon, how about something for us gals? Why stop with the shirt? Rowr! ---
**Author:** ![captainQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@captainQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/captainQwark)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442/180 "2003-05-30T05:11:32Z")
I’m not really sure if this counts, but something that bugs me about Star Wars is the missed oppurtunities. In a book that has the screenplays annotated, the annotations point out some of the differences in earlier scripts. IMO, some of the stuff that was scrapped were great ideas. For example, in an earlier draft of _a new hope_ there was mentioned a legend of a man who discovered the force. In earlier drafts of _the empire strikes back_ the rebel fortress on hoth was an ice castle and Darth Vader had a castle overlooking a sea of lava. I imagine there are those on this thread that know that Chewbacca’s planet would have been featured on _return of the jedi_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-other-side-things-that-bug-you-about-star-wars/177442.md?page=10)