# ...and of course in Canada, the whole thing's flip-flopped! **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 12, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476 "2015-02-12T15:18:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/21 "2015-02-12T16:40:42Z")
Well, you know how quite possibly no charges will be laid against Bill Cosby because the statute of limitations had run out? In Canada, there is no statute of limitations on rape/sexual assault. (So if you rape a six year old and he can’t recover, process events, or speak out till he’s 16, it still counts!) Also, when Jian Gomeshi, a long beloved, high profile celebrity was accused of violence and sexual assault, we believed the women. That’s kind of an opposite too! Is this what you’re looking for? ---
**Author:** ![jharvey963](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jharvey963](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jharvey963)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/22 "2015-02-12T16:45:12Z")
Reported for possible forum change. Or maybe not. Up to the mods. ---
**Author:** ![BurnMeUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@BurnMeUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BurnMeUp)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/23 "2015-02-12T16:50:58Z")
In liberal Canada, apple juices you! ---
**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/24 "2015-02-12T16:56:13Z")
The verb “[to table](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_%28parliamentary_procedure%29)” switches meaning to its exact opposite. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/25 "2015-02-12T17:02:48Z")
What, besides the fact that we’re a monarchy and they’re a republic? There is at least one significant difference in our laws respecting First Nations. In 1763, the British issued a Royal Proclamation, which put significant restrictions on the acquisistion of land from Indians. It barred private parties from buying land from Indians, and provided that all land transactions had to be done through the Crown. The purpose of this approach was to protect Indians from fraudulent land transfers, and to keep the peace between Indians and settlers, because fraudulent land transfers were the source of many grievances, which could flare up into open conflict. In the 13 colonies, particularly Virginia, this policy was heavily criticised, because it was seen as blocking westward expansion. It became one of the grievances in the Declaration of Independence, and following independence, the Royal Proclamation ceased to have any legal effect in the United States. Just the opposite occurred in Canada. The British and Canadian governments have followed the principles set out in the Royal Proclamation in subsequent dealings with the First Nations, so that much of Canada is covered by Treaties which govern aboriginal land title. The principles of the Royal Proclamation is so important that the Proclamation has been protected in our Constitution. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/26 "2015-02-12T17:15:52Z")
Here’s one our Northern Neighbors will enjoy: When you convert Canadian money to US, you end up with more than you started with. When you convert US money to Canadian, you end up with less. Living here in far Southern Colonial Quebe-tario as I do I get this gloating from our part-time neighbors quite a lot. _Quelle horreur!!_ ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/27 "2015-02-12T17:17:54Z")
In Canada, blue = conservative/Conservative. Red = liberal/Liberal. [**Political colours**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_colour) (Wikipedia). ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/28 "2015-02-12T17:22:38Z")
How many syllables are there in “Toronto”? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/29 "2015-02-12T17:29:24Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Here’s one our Northern Neighbors will enjoy: > > When you convert Canadian money to US, you end up with more than you started with. > When you convert US money to Canadian, you end up with less. Um, no. I think you have your currencies reversed. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/30 "2015-02-12T17:35:34Z")
> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#): > > No, and because I’m thousands of miles away. But if you were actually in Canada, you’d be 0 miles away. Just the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/31 "2015-02-12T17:36:03Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Also, when Jian Gomeshi, a long beloved, high profile celebrity was accused of violence and sexual assault, we believed the women. That’s kind of an opposite too! As to this, it’s ridiculous. 1. Comparing Jian Ghomeshi to Bill Cosby is like comparing your bathtub to the Atlantic Ocean. Twelve months ago most Canadians didn’t know who Jian Ghomeshi was. Bill Cosby is arguably the most famous comedian in the history of the visual arts. 2. I don’t know where you get your news but public opinion in the USA has been against Cosby more or less from the moment this story exploded. Ghomeshi got just as many limited “well, nothing’s been proven” defences as Cosby did. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/32 "2015-02-12T17:41:24Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Here’s one our Northern Neighbors will enjoy: > > When you convert Canadian money to US, you end up with more than you started with. > When you convert US money to Canadian, you end up with less. > [@RickJay](#): > > Um, no. I think you have your currencies reversed. Yeah really, I wish. The $550 US Dopey race registration I’m hoping to get into this year will cost me $685 CDN. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/33 "2015-02-12T17:42:53Z")
In America it’s center. In Canada it’s centre. I guess there’s some flip-flopping there. ---
**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/34 "2015-02-12T18:03:26Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > How many syllables are there in “Toronto”? Same as in Nawleans and Mwaukie! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/35 "2015-02-12T18:12:26Z")
Canadian politicians stand for office. Ours have to run for it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/36 "2015-02-12T18:14:32Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > Well the Simpson’s reference is wrong, apple cider/juice is brown/yellow just like in the US. If it’s clear and yella, you’ve got juice there, fella. If it’s tangy and brown, you’re in cider-town! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/37 "2015-02-12T18:18:23Z")
In Canada, the skip fourth down and punt on third down, like they fail to get what fourth down is there for. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/38 "2015-02-12T18:21:04Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Well, you know how quite possibly no charges will be laid against Bill Cosby because the statute of limitations had run out? > > In Canada, there is no statute of limitations on rape/sexual assault. (So if you rape a six year old and he can’t recover, process events, or speak out till he’s 16, it still counts!) You hint at the key difference but missed the target …likely because of the major difference being outside the context you are used to. The Cosby statue of limitations issue was not federal law in the US. It was state law. That nationwide criminal code versus a split between state/federal criminal jurisdictions is the big difference on crossing the border. It drove a Canadian citizen I knew that was living here bonkers when she’d ask a legal question “about the US” assuming that it was somehow uniform nationally. There’s 50 different answers on whether a statute of limitations exists for rape and if so how long the period is. In many states it varies between minor and adult victims of the crime. There’s not a US answer to compare to Canada’s answer. There’s fundamental differences between US states and Canadian provinces that pops up other places as well. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/39 "2015-02-12T18:23:53Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Um, no. I think you have your currencies reversed. Oops. :smack: I even checked, then misinterpretted what I saw. :smack: But it used to be the other way, at least for a few years. Yeah, yeah, that’s what I meant … And my larger point still stands that it works opposite across the border. My error was which side has the 🙂 and which the ☹ ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476/40 "2015-02-12T18:43:42Z")
I was not attempting to equate Cosby and Gomeshi. (But you knew that!;)) And nobody is defending Gomeshi around here, mostly because they believe the women. I’m not seeing any of the moral gymnastics that can be seen, right on this board, concerning Cosby. Even the people who, in early days stood up for him, friends, colleagues, former band mates, have all backed away from their initial comments. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-of-course-in-canada-the-whole-things-flip-flopped/712476.md?page=3)