# And so it begins, goddammit! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 28, 2003, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-so-it-begins-goddammit/164654 "2003-03-28T00:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Saen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Saen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saen)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-so-it-begins-goddammit/164654/1 "2003-03-28T00:05:27Z")
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82395,00.html](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82395,00.html) > [@](#): > > \*\*A group of Vermont teen-agers threw rocks at a uniformed female Vermont National Guard sergeant last week, in the latest example of a service member facing hostility in the United States. > \*\* > > The sergeant said she believed the protesters had taken part in an anti-war demonstration in Montpelier that day. National Guard troops are often deployed to such events to help keep the peace. > > “There were various profanities directed in her direction, along the line of ‘[expletive] murderer, [expletive] baby killer,’” Stirewalt said. “It culminated with some of the individuals throwing rocks at her, and as testament to her disciplined professionalism, she got in her car and left the area.” Anyone who believes this is a first amendment issue can kiss my fuckin ass. I have no truck with those that want to disagree, dissent, protest, or however you want to get shrill about it. But this I will not tolerate. You want to argue the merrits of this war? more power to you. You want to gather in the street and chant a moronic slogan? have at it. You want to block traffic and make me late for work? we may have a few words, but that is civil disobedience for you. You want to abuse a service person in my presence because of your idiotic ideologies? I’m going to jail or the hospital.\* There are a very few things I will get violent about unless I am assaulted, and willing to go to jail for it. I was handcuffed and put in a squad car before an old friend who was an officer talked the arresting officer out of it. And the next time I see a grown man bitch slap a child for acting up I will tackle their ass again. Tis is tantamount to a crime, as well it should be. And, to me, one of the most un-American, treasonous, and dispicable acts I can think of. Fuck anyone who thinks anyone has a right to do anything like this just because they don’t want a war. \ ***Zoe** already hinted that my views on this was a “threatening post” and would probably get me banned if he felt inclined to report me. This time don’t do me any favors. ---
**Author:** ![Sqube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@Sqube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sqube)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-so-it-begins-goddammit/164654/2 "2003-03-28T00:10:26Z")
Well **Saen** , I’d be sitting in the back of that squad car with you, talking about how that fucker got exactly what was coming to him. Under no circumstances did that woman deserve that type of unprovoked hostility, and I’m impressed that she had the strength of character to leave instead of beating them senseless. ---
**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-so-it-begins-goddammit/164654/3 "2003-03-28T00:12:24Z")
The uniformed National Guardswoman should have pulled out her sidearm and shot the little fuckers. Fucking idiotic kids that have no fucking clue of what they’re talking about. Piss me off. \*\*For the record, I don’t believe in killing teenagers. Just hurting them.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-so-it-begins-goddammit/164654/4 "2003-03-28T00:14:20Z")
Ummm… that last bit was supposed to be \ not bold. Oh well. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-so-it-begins-goddammit/164654/5 "2003-03-28T00:15:34Z")
> [@](#): > > The uniformed National Guardswoman should have pulled out her sidearm and shot the little fuckers. > > Fucking idiotic kids that have no fucking clue of what they’re talking about. Piss me off. Lethal force is not an appropriate response to being yelled at and hit with rocks. Unless, perhaps, they are really really big rocks. And they’re yelling really loud. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-so-it-begins-goddammit/164654/6 "2003-03-28T00:34:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bernse \* > \*\*The uniformed National Guardswoman should have pulled out her sidearm and shot the little fuckers. > \*\* Two words: Kent State. The guardswoman could have easily broken every bone in these little halfwits bodies without breaking a sweat. And she should have.