# And the "Asshole of the Day Award" goes to the guy who kicked a dog like a football

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 8, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868 "2004-04-08T01:59:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/21 "2004-04-08T19:08:03Z")

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**Sailor**  
On what kind of desperate one-thought planet do you have to be standing on to come up with equating the opportunistic abuse of a dog with an international war?

Is your dosage too high today?

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/22 "2004-04-08T19:26:04Z")

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Well, I guess that answers that, then. I was going to ask why it’s called a _donkey_ punch but I’ve decided I’ve got enough to try at home tonight without knowing too much.

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**Author:** ![Misery\_Loves\_Co](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Misery\_Loves\_Co](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misery_Loves_Co)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/23 "2004-04-08T19:31:27Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> **Sailor**  
> On what kind of desperate one-thought planet do you have to be standing on to come up with equating the opportunistic abuse of a dog with an international war?

I dunno - it kind of amuses me to think of what someone who’s just had the shit bombed out of their neighborhood and lost friends and family in horribly grisly ways would think of 600 Americans losing their fucking minds over a dog getting kicked to death. Sort of underscores the dramatic difference between their reality and the average American’s.

> [@Eve](#):
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> Kinda like it’s human nature to want to bomb the shit out of people who flew airplanes into our buildings? Vicious cycle, ain’t it?

I seemed to have misplaced it, **Eve** - could you show me where that proof is that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11? I could _swear_ it was here a minute ago.

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/24 "2004-04-08T19:49:22Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Kinda like it’s human nature to want to bomb the shit out of people who flew airplanes into our buildings? Vicious cycle, ain’t it?

The men, women and children I am seeing killed in Iraq these days flew airplanes into “your” buildings? That’s interesting. I did not know that.

BTW, do we know if the guy who kicked the dog was bitten by some other dog years ago? Because that would be a good justification for some people. If a dog bites you, are you entitled to kick dogs for the rest of your life?

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**Author:** ![nitroglycerine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@nitroglycerine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nitroglycerine)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/25 "2004-04-08T19:49:35Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> I’m a cat person, but I recognized this as a _joke_. Lighten up, people.

Yeah, OK. It just struck a chord, 'cause I lost two really cool cats cats over the years due to dickhead cat haters. So I apologize County, I take back the dickhead remark, and you don’t have to go fuck yourself…unless, you know…you’re into that sort of thing 🙂

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/26 "2004-04-08T19:52:10Z")

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> [@Misery Loves Co.](#):
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> I dunno - it kind of amuses me to think of what someone who’s just had the shit bombed out of their neighborhood and lost friends and family in horribly grisly ways would think of 600 Americans losing their fucking minds over a dog getting kicked to death. Sort of underscores the dramatic difference between their reality and the average American’s.

There are two sides to most conflicts, at least when it’s between humans. Wars tend to be moral grey areas for most of us.

Killing animals for fun, on the other hand, doesn’t tend to be a moral grey area. The dog isn’t a moral actor. Dogs don’t “deserve” to have bad things happen to them, just as, say, infants don’t deserve bad things.

When it’s a matter of black and white for most people, it’s a lot easier to be outraged. In this thread, **Tentacle Monster** has expressed a longing for the perpetrator to be, essentially, tortured nightly for a year. Ta da! We’re back in a grey area.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/27 "2004-04-08T20:01:36Z")

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> [@Misery Loves Co.](#):
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> I dunno - it kind of amuses me to think of what someone who’s just had the shit bombed out of their neighborhood and lost friends and family in horribly grisly ways would think of 600 Americans losing their fucking minds over a dog getting kicked to death. Sort of underscores the dramatic difference between their reality and the average American’s.

Oh, I’m sorry. I didn’t know where **Sailor** was going with those comments.

**Sailor** , you better get busy. There’s about 150 other threads in the pit that need to be hijacked and turned into discussions about the evil U.S.A. war machine.

With a little creative logic you could turn **every** thread into a war debate.

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/28 "2004-04-08T20:22:51Z")

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I think intelligent people will understand my post was about human nature.

I’m picturing BubbaDog as Basil Fawlty hysterically saying “Don’t mention the war”.

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**Author:** ![nitroglycerine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@nitroglycerine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nitroglycerine)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/29 "2004-04-08T20:26:17Z")

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> [@Tezmac](#):
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> From [Getoffended.com](http://Getoffended.com)
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> Donkey Punch is a very disturbing sexual manuever that we here at [getoffended.com](http://getoffended.com) neither condone or have ever attempted. This is where, during doggystyle sexual activity, the man punches his partner as hard as he can in the back of the skull right before he reaches climax. This causes her to convulse and tighten every cavity. The man then holds on for the best orgasm of his life. Unfortunately this manuever is not at all pleasurable for the female partner.

So I wonder if the Donkey Punch can be used in conjunction with the Dirty Sanchez?  
d&r

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/30 "2004-04-08T20:30:53Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Kinda like it’s human nature to want to bomb the shit out of people who flew airplanes into our buildings? Vicious cycle, ain’t it?

When did Iraq fly airplanes into our buildings? I must have missed that one.

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**Author:** ![Misery\_Loves\_Co](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Misery\_Loves\_Co](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misery_Loves_Co)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/31 "2004-04-08T20:40:05Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> With a little creative logic you could turn every thread into a war debate

True, true - but that’s not what anyone’s trying to do. I could (and will now) just as easily couch my point in a comparison between this incident and any refugee camp in any famine-wracked shithole, ignored by the rest of the world. The war happened to be foremost in _my_ mind given the threads in the Pit, and someone’s assinine assertion that Iraq caused 9/11.

**jsgoddess** - Good points! My rejoinder is that the relative importance is highly subjective. It’s only in the safety and wealth of a 1st world country that someone killing a dog (however brutally) is going to warrant that kind of response.

Hell, anyone remember the drastic enema the media underwent aftter 9/11? I’d gotten so sick of special interest stories dramatizing the disappearence of certain interns and needlessly sensationalized burgeois fodder, it was almost refreshing to see something that was actually _important_ on the news.

And now, just to do a 180 - I (being an inhabitant of a 1st world country, and therefore physically and mentally safe enough to get riled up about such things) hope that Crawford gets a serious smackdown.

**jsgoddess** - some years ago there was an animal in the paper looking for a home, minus its ears thanks to some dickwad with a pair of shears and a morbid sense of fun. I don’t know how to couch this cleverly, but I’ve rarely had such a powerful urge to work someone over with a baseball bat for a sadistically long period of time. I’m glad your kitty has a good home - give her a scritch for me.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/32 "2004-04-08T20:46:09Z")

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> [@sailor](#):
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> I think intelligent people will understand my post was about human nature.
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> I’m picturing BubbaDog as Basil Fawlty hysterically saying “Don’t mention the war”.

Of course they would. And intelligent people would also understand your “human nature” comment in all the other threads on this board where where people are shocked at the way other people act.  
If you could picture Basil Fawlty saying,“What the fuck does some loser kicking a dog have to do with an international conflict and why does **sailor** have this need to hijack this thread?”, then yes, you are accurately picturing the **Bubbadog** response.

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/33 "2004-04-08T21:30:35Z")

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\>\> What the fuck does some loser kicking a dog have to do with an international conflict

That is exactly what I was talking about. That both derive from the facet of human nature which makes humans want to feel powerful and be capable of controling others. I think intelligent people understood that was the point I was trying to make. Apparently you are not one of them.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/34 "2004-04-08T21:34:55Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> If you could picture Basil Fawlty saying,“What the fuck does some loser kicking a dog have to do with an international conflict and why does **sailor** have this need to hijack this thread?”, then yes, you are accurately picturing the **Bubbadog** response.

I generally picture the Bubbadog response as one of those machines you put by your bed that generates white noise.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/35 "2004-04-08T22:15:34Z")

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> [@blowero](#):
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> When did Iraq fly airplanes into our buildings? I must have missed that one.

Hard to believe you’ve forgotten Afghanistan already.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/36 "2004-04-08T22:25:51Z")

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Sorry to interupt this nifty war debate with a comment about the actual OP, but…

That’s one of the most horrible stories I’ve read in a long time. I think I’ll go home and hug my yorkie-cross puppy for a while. ☹

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/37 "2004-04-08T22:34:41Z")

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> [@sailor](#):
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> \>\> What the fuck does some loser kicking a dog have to do with an international conflict
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> That is exactly what I was talking about. That both derive from the facet of human nature which makes humans want to feel powerful and be capable of controling others. I think intelligent people understood that was the point I was trying to make. Apparently you are not one of them.

I give up with you **sailor**. You seem too far gone to get past your quest to hijack this thread. I could debate you on your use of tangent logic to equate an international conflict and all its complexities to basic shitty human nature. I could chastise you for simplifying the causes of an international situation propegated decades ago by the polices and actions of many nations into simple motivations. But I won’t. That’s what you want to do. And as much as I appear right now to oppose your cause, I don’t. This isn’t the place for your argument. I won’t participate.

And **Blowero** , you tire me. Maybe you can go annoy someone else for a while. You are a child.

Bubba

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/38 "2004-04-08T22:38:34Z")

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Continued hijack.

> [@Misery Loves Co.](#):
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> **jsgoddess** - I’m glad your kitty has a good home - give her a scritch for me.

I did. And she would like it to be entered on the record that she didn’t lose her whole ears, just the tips. The vet suggested someone was trying to “crop” them. 😕

[Ichabod the wonder cat](http://img33.photobucket.com/albums/v101/jsgoddess/?action=view&current=ichabod.jpg)

She’s kinda funny looking, but I love her anyway. 😃

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/39 "2004-04-08T22:47:28Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> [Ichabod the wonder cat](http://img33.photobucket.com/albums/v101/jsgoddess/?action=view&current=ichabod.jpg)

Ooo - she looks very intelectual. 🙂

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**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-asshole-of-the-day-award-goes-to-the-guy-who-kicked-a-dog-like-a-football/238868/40 "2004-04-08T22:47:33Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> I’m a cat person, but I recognized this as a _joke_. Lighten up, people. As for “karma” catching up with him, this is one of those times when I wish karma actually existed.

Thank you. I realize it was in poor taste but I couldn’t help myself, being a dog person and all.

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