# And the award for best up-and-coming new SDMB member goes to: FarmerOak! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 30, 2001, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226 "2001-07-30T14:01:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Sterra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Sterra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterra)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/61 "2001-08-01T22:33:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Attrayant \* > > \*\*So what happens to FarmerOak in the future? Only time will tell for sure, but I’m laying odds on him becoming: > > > > 1. A moderator > > 2. Banned > > 3. A moderator, and then getting banned\*\* > > Please explain how I should have interpreted _this_ as praise. > > And that’s just ONE example from your OP. \*\* Is being a moderator now equal with being banned?🙂 I suggest to avoid confusion someone now makes farmer oak a moderator then bans him. ---
**Author:** ![FarmerOak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@FarmerOak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerOak)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/62 "2001-08-01T22:37:06Z")
I’ll accept banning (like I have a choice,) but I’ll be damned if I’ll be a moderator. Those guys work too hard. My personal Code of Conduct prohibits working hard. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2001, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/63 "2001-08-02T15:22:24Z")
OneChance: 1. The thread didn’t start in the Pit. It was moved to the Pit because the moderator thought it was an insult, not praise. I have no idea why, as it sounded like praise to me. 2. I didn’t read it until it was in the Pit. I wondered why Praise was in the Pit, till I read the moderator comment where it got moved. But still thought it was praise. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/64 "2001-08-05T02:04:21Z")
Well, having him being made a moderator seems unlikely at this point, but banning looks real doable. Any other nominations for best new SDMB member? [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=80209](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=80209) ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/65 "2001-08-05T02:52:34Z")
:rolleyes: And you can interpret _that_ however you want to. ---
**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/66 "2001-08-05T03:22:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by FarmerOak \* > \*\*I’ll accept banning (like I have a choice,) but I’ll be damned if I’ll be a moderator. Those guys work too hard. > > My personal Code of Conduct prohibits working hard. \*\* But you’ll get a free Straight Dope coffee mug. Just ask **Coldfire.** ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/67 "2001-08-05T04:16:09Z")
Maybe we should brand FarmerOak as one of the weird, goofy-types of people and just move on. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/68 "2001-08-05T04:20:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Qadgop the Mercotan \* > \*\*Well, having him being made a moderator seems unlikely at this point, but banning looks real doable. Any other nominations for best new SDMB member? \*\* Sorry, goofed up the coding. Should read [Farmeroak annoys several mods here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=80209) ---
**Author:** ![simulpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@simulpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simulpost)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/69 "2001-08-05T04:53:12Z")
My first and only notice of FarmerOak was where he told the mods not to make a “virus” the excuse for bad response times. He was right on the nose, and they took offense. Mods: If you don’t want people to call you liars, don’t lie - How hard is that? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/70 "2001-08-05T05:07:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by simulpost \* > \*\*My first and only notice of FarmerOak was where he told the mods not to make a “virus” the excuse for bad response times. > > He was right on the nose, and they took offense. > > Mods: If you don’t want people to call you liars, don’t lie - How hard is that? \*\* All I can think of right now is Sifl and Olly, you know what I mean? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/71 "2001-08-05T05:11:26Z")
_lying_ has such a negative connotation. People say things which are untrue for different reasons. If said deliberately, knowing that the statement is untrue, one is lying. I don’t think the mods/admins _lie_. If said unintentionally, and later proved untrue, one could be said to be mistaken. Or wrong. or… > [@](#): > > My first and only notice of FarmerOak was where he told the mods not to make a “virus” the excuse for bad response times. Then read a few more of his posts. Quiz in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/72 "2001-08-05T07:39:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by simulpost \* > \*\*My first and only notice of FarmerOak was where he told the mods not to make a “virus” the excuse for bad response times. > > He was right on the nose, and they took offense. > > Mods: If you don’t want people to call you liars, don’t lie - How hard is that? \*\* They didn’t lie. If you had an ounce of brains in that fat-infested skull of yours, you’d have taken notice of the usage of the word "suspect, as in “I **suspect** it is that virus”. The very same virus that had the friggin’ White House in a panic for a brief while (to be fair, it’s actually a worm, but to Joe Typewriter, they’re essentially the same thing). Seeing as how I doubt Mr. Oak’s knowledge of how the Boards run extend any farther than the Reply button, I don’t see how he felt justified in accusing the Admins of lying, nor do I see how he felt justified in demanding that the problem be fixed with such anal-retentive assholicness. Last I heard, he wasn’t the bloke that signed the paychecks. So, essentially, Mr. Oak was way out of line in this instance. Hardly “right on the nose”. ---
**Author:** ![FarmerOak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@FarmerOak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerOak)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/73 "2001-08-05T07:43:31Z")
Hee-hee! I want to specifically enjoin posters from defending me… my detractors are much funnier. Expressing support for me will only get you in trouble. This is entertaining, in a car-wreck kind of way… ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/74 "2001-08-05T07:54:12Z")
You know, once upon a time, not so long ago, I told you you’d be OK. I still think you have the potential to be a good poster. But hells bells, dude, why did you have to bash the Mods and Admins for something that was out of their control? Even if the problem was with the SD server, what makes you think that it was so easy to fix? Furthermore, you need to chill out the rhetoric when it’s unwarranted. ATMB is not the place to flame people. You’ve been here as long as I have, you should know that. I’d be sorry to see you go, but it would pass. Do yourself a favor and think about what you’re saying before you say it, or you will be gone. ---
**Author:** ![FarmerOak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@FarmerOak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerOak)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/75 "2001-08-05T07:58:41Z")
Gratuitous advice is also appreciated. BTW, good luck on your adventure, **Doors**. If I’m not here when you get back, think of me… [Phantom] Think of Meeeeeee Think of me FOND-LEEEEEE… [/Phantom] ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/76 "2001-08-05T08:13:12Z")
I liked FarmerOak back in the ScOo\_gUy threads, but that crap over in ATMB, and now this have really changed my mind. I still can’t believe that he had the gall to _demand_ that the speed problems be fixed. And compared it to a restaurant, where one _pays_ for service. I’ve never seen anyone piss off jdavis before. Where he accused jdavis of lying was when he said: “Bull. This board goes down daily at 3:30am CDT, for about fifteen minutes, and that’s it.” This was in response to jdavis saying that backup over a LAN is performed from 4:00 to 6:00 every day. This is true. Jdavis was clearly not lying about this. If people are going to accuse their hosts of lying, they had better be _damn_ sure they know the truth. FarmerOak just likes talking out of his ass and being an asshole. As much as I try, I cannot imagine what could possess someone to be so rude to those who work hard to keep this place available to all of us. It just is so far from what I consider rational and polite behavior that it truly boggles me. Is he trying to piss people off for no good reason? Was he raised by wolves? Is his head so far up his ass that he gargles with his own stomache acid? ---
**Author:** ![FarmerOak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@FarmerOak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerOak)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/77 "2001-08-05T08:15:54Z")
Rhetorical questions? Or directed specifically at the Farmer? ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/78 "2001-08-05T09:47:14Z")
Would it matter to you? ---
**Author:** ![FarmerOak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@FarmerOak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerOak)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/79 "2001-08-05T09:49:31Z")
Only in how I respond. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226/80 "2001-08-05T15:23:48Z")
I used to think Farmer was a pretty entertaining guy and like his attitude (in the beginning). Sadly, the more he opens his virtual mouth, the more he just resembles yet another whining crybaby. Won’t be any tears from me when the door hits him in the ass. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-award-for-best-up-and-coming-new-sdmb-member-goes-to-farmeroak/74226.md?page=5)