# "...And The Men Who Love Them" Meme **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 27, 2006, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-men-who-love-them-meme/358433 "2006-05-27T11:28:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sir\_Rhosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2006, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-men-who-love-them-meme/358433/1 "2006-05-27T11:28:20Z")
We’ve all heard the comedic parodies of afternoon talk shows like Jerry Springer’s, where the tagline to an episode goes something like: “On the next Springer–one-legged Lesbian midgets and the men who love them!” Who started this? And did any such program ever have a tag that actually said “and the men (or women) who love them?” Sir Rhosis ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2006, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-men-who-love-them-meme/358433/2 "2006-05-27T11:47:29Z")
Steve Goodman had a song, way back when (60s?) about “men who love women who love men” … ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2006, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-men-who-love-them-meme/358433/3 "2006-05-27T13:48:29Z")
I think it’s a play on the title of the '80s self-help book [Men Who Hate Women and the Women Who Love Them](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553381415). ---
**Author:** ![Papermache\_Prince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@Papermache\_Prince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Papermache_Prince)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2006, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-men-who-love-them-meme/358433/4 "2006-05-27T17:48:34Z")
No, I’m sure the phrase pre-dates that self help book by many years. It seems to me that the phrase originally had no ironic content. I think it was a common phrase in movie trailers – “the story of daredevil pilots and the women who love them” etc. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find any online support for this memory.