# And the most evil sitcom character ever is...

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**Created:** [September 15, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743 "2008-09-15T21:16:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/41 "2008-09-16T01:39:18Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Sleeping with Joey Tribiono is just wrong and evil. Seriously, that was what you picked out? You found everything else self-explanatory?

Well, I have vague memories of everything else from the show, as my cousin would watch it while I was doing homework. I have no recollection of naps, though.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/42 "2008-09-16T02:36:02Z")

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> [@CaerieD](#):
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> Well, I have vague memories of everything else from the show, as my cousin would watch it while I was doing homework. I have no recollection of naps, though.

There was one episode where Joey and Ross fell asleep on the couch together, kinda in each other’s arms. They liked it and started sneaking naps until the others caught them.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/43 "2008-09-16T02:58:50Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Frank Burns was more incompetent and immature then evil.

In the sitcom, yes, but Frank Burns in the movie _is_ evil.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/44 "2008-09-16T03:02:07Z")

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Hmmm…does _Ugly Betty_ count as a sitcom? Kind of?

Because Wilhelmina is the _definition_ of evil. Evil with _killer_ fashion sense.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/45 "2008-09-16T03:10:06Z")

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Roseanne Conner, and her demon-spawn daughter Darlene. I’d cheerfully castrate myself with a rusty blade rather than become “involved” with either of them.

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**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/46 "2008-09-16T04:13:18Z")

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What about Archie Bunker?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/47 "2008-09-16T04:22:48Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> I still think Cartman wins though, assuming we are only counting characters that were created specifically for a given show (otherwise, Satan wins, having been a reoccurring character in several sitcoms, and being, well, Satan)

\*South Park’s \*Satan is a pretty nice guy, actually. Cartman is way worse.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/48 "2008-09-16T04:29:30Z")

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> [@WarmNPrickly](#):
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> What about Archie Bunker?

Archie wasn’t evil. He was ignorant, bigoted, and unsophisticated. Those are not admirable qualities, but they aren’t evil.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/49 "2008-09-16T12:22:23Z")

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> [@OtakuLoki](#):
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> For evil one should also consider the camouflage that the character exhibits. A misanthropic sort, who is always muttering about the need to kill all the assholes in the world just isn’t hiding things under a bushel. Once his activities become canon, and get noticed by the authorities in his/her world, they will be stopped, and usually within days of the beginning of his/her enlargement.
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> No, the truly evil character is one who sits in the center of a web of deception, letting people bring their problems to him, for him to solve. And which he will use for the furtherance of his own aims. Whether they have anything to do with the situation that he had been asked to resolve, or not. I am reminded of one incident where the villain I am in mind of used a situation of his own devising to blackmail an innocent into giving up the one thing in his life that gave him joy.[sup]1[/sup] For the simple joy of it, every time he is tasked with solving a situation he does so with malice aforethought to provide evidence that his position is indispensable, and to smear the reputations of everyone else around him.
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> Jeeves, is, without doubt, or excuse, the most manipulative and evil bastard to ever grace a situation comedy.
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> 1. So what if Bertie couldn’t **play** the ukelele, he still loved it!

Marry me.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/50 "2008-09-16T12:30:26Z")

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- Two and a Half Men\*: Evelyn Harper and her demon spawned son Charlie. The apple didn’t fall far from that tree. They both know what they do is wrong, but they just don’t give a shit. That is pure evil.

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/51 "2008-09-16T13:00:13Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Flagg?

If his first name is Randall, you might be onto something.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/52 "2008-09-16T14:10:11Z")

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Peter gets the nod, IMO, for the physical and psychological abuse he heaps on Meg in so many episodes. Family Guy and American Dad both have an ugly element of misogyny in their humor.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/53 "2008-09-16T14:32:32Z")

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All of the main characters from _It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia_.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/54 "2008-09-16T14:55:18Z")

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Dan Fielding? He’s just a horny, self-centered letch. Cartman is EVIL.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/55 "2008-09-16T15:13:10Z")

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> [@Sigmagirl](#):
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> Marry me.

Of course! I am always eager to assist a true lady in any worthy endeavor!

Though I had thought you were married already. Do we need to set Jeeves upon this small hurdle?

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**Author:** ![Garula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ea666f/32.png) [@Garula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garula)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/56 "2008-09-16T15:13:22Z")

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I’ll second the cast of _It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia_. They are all truly, truly horrible people. Particularly Dennis, who in one episode gets a little carried away with trying to understand the mindset of a serial killer.

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/57 "2008-09-16T15:16:43Z")

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I nominate the sitcom Nazi Gestapo officer, Major Wolfgang Hochstetter from “Hogan’s Heroes.” Now that’s evil.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/58 "2008-09-16T15:22:15Z")

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> [@OtakuLoki](#):
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> Of course! I am always eager to assist a true lady in any worthy endeavor!
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> Though I had thought you were married already. Do we need to set Jeeves upon this small hurdle?

Yeah, you’re right. I lost my head. You can have Honoria Glossop instead. 😃

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/59 "2008-09-16T15:41:53Z")

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> [@Sigmagirl](#):
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> Yeah, you’re right. I lost my head. You can have Honoria Glossop instead. 😃

Well, considering she hates Jeeves, this might be a match with more to it than appears at first blush. 😉

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/60 "2008-09-16T15:49:39Z")

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Dr. Kelso from _Scrubs_. He obviously enjoys breaking the spirits of his employees, dashing their dreams, and laughing evilly in their faces. He routinely takes credit for the successes of his staff, and ignores patients and lets them die so he can get the top score in Ms. Pacman.

I’d also make a case for Basil Fawlty, although he considers himself the victim. He constantly lies, never admits to falsehood, and improvises lies on the spot to back up his previous lies. He loathes his customers, wife, and employees, and constantly digs at them to make their lives miserable. He’s motivated purely by selfishness and greed, and can’t conceive of doing anything helpful and beneficial for others. And he’s got a mustache.

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