# And the most evil sitcom character ever is...

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 15, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743 "2008-09-15T21:16:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/61 "2008-09-16T15:49:46Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> I still think Cartman wins though, assuming we are only counting characters that were created specifically for a given show (otherwise, Satan wins, having been a reoccurring character in several sitcoms, and being, well, Satan)

Does anyone remember that **Night Court** ep. where the Devil shows up on Halloween, gets Dan to sell his soul, and spends the rest of the ep. taunting Dan with tales of his evil deeds? Yeah it was

Just a friend of Mac’s,  
but the joke wouldn’t have worked if it all wasn’t true. Dan tho is more of an inveterate hedonist than evildoer I’ll grant.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/62 "2008-09-16T16:36:55Z")

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Michelle Tanner. Pure evil.

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**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/63 "2008-09-16T16:39:07Z")

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> [@Ronald\_C.Semone](#):
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> How about Newman from **Seinfeld**? He was only a mailman, so his chances to do evil were limited, but do you have any doubt about what he would do if he became dictator of the world?

By any chance were you the head of NBC’s publicity dept, circa 1997? I recall there being a Seinfeld commercial bragging about the evilness of Newman…

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/64 "2008-09-16T18:13:11Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Ross Geller from friends.

No, Racheal Green. Self-centered as a gyroscope, only wanted to keep Ross when there wasn’t a better man around, used Monica for support and shelter, ruined almost every life she touched.

I hated that woman so much, I had to stop watching the show. I hope she got better, or killed horribly.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/65 "2008-09-16T18:46:31Z")

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> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#):
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> Not so much anymore. Now he’s just really, really gay.

It wasn’t that long ago that Stewie killed his own mother (albeit in simulation), was it?

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/66 "2008-09-16T21:29:43Z")

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Oh, come now! Dr. Zachary Smith, of course!

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/67 "2008-09-16T22:16:49Z")

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I am shocked that there has yet to be a mention of Patsy from “Absolutely Fabulous” - I don’t have a specific cite (tho I bet someone here can come up w a pretty good example), but I do know that she was one mean bitch.

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**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/68 "2008-09-16T22:24:50Z")

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Ralph Furley’s brother, Bart.  
Phyllis from the Mary Tyler Moore show.  
Karen, from Will & Grace, but God, I LOVE her!

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/69 "2008-09-16T22:30:01Z")

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> [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](#):
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> Karen, from Will & Grace, but God, I LOVE her!

Oh, that’s a good pick. And underneath the superficial attachment to her looks and money, she is really quite an intelligent businesswoman. But ruthless when she wants something. (or if she thinks something might possibly amuse her)

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/70 "2008-09-16T23:05:21Z")

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> [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](#):
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> Ralph Furley’s brother, Bart.  
> Phyllis from the Mary Tyler Moore show.  
> Karen, from Will & Grace, but God, I LOVE her!

TAKE THAT BACK!!

Karen is too beautiful to be evil.

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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/71 "2008-09-17T01:25:32Z")

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> [@OtakuLoki](#):
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> 1. So what if Bertie couldn’t **play** the ukelele, he still loved it!

And the white mess jacket wasn’t \*that \*bad…

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**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/72 "2008-09-17T01:31:05Z")

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> [@Sigmagirl](#):
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> Yeah, you’re right. I lost my head. You can have Honoria Glossop instead. 😃

oh **Sigmagirl** , I’ve met the most wonderful woman!

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/73 "2008-09-17T13:52:09Z")

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> [@Gail](#):
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> How about Dr. Kelso from _Scrubs_  
> Mr Burns from _The Simpsons_

Burns - yeah.

Kelso would not be top tier, simply because the writers occasionally let him do the right thing, dammit! There was one episode where he pulled strings to let a man with no insurance stay until his treatment was done, rather than sending him to County… and another one where he gave the slot in a research program to the rich guy rather than the poor guy… which sounds evil until he points out that the rich guy would make a big enough donation to allow continued funding of some outreach program.

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/74 "2008-09-17T14:40:41Z")

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> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#):
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> No, Racheal Green \<\<snip\>\>  
> I hope she got …killed horribly.

Alas, there was no such closure. ☹

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/75 "2008-09-17T14:47:01Z")

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> [@5-HT](#):
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> oh **Sigmagirl** , I’ve met the most wonderful woman!

Climb upon my knee, Sonny Boy . . .

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/76 "2008-09-17T15:15:05Z")

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Also in the evil department, don’t forget:

Janitor (name unknown) - Scrubs  
Mimi - The Drew Carey Show  
Reese - Malcom in the Middle  
Swiper - Dora the Explorer

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/77 "2008-09-17T15:17:55Z")

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Swiper isn’t evil. He’s just a kleptomaniac. When he isn’t swiping, Dora interacts with him on friendly basis.  
…and if Dora the Explorer is a sitcom, I’m just not getting any of the jokes.

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/78 "2008-09-17T15:29:12Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Swiper isn’t evil. He’s just a kleptomaniac. When he isn’t swiping, Dora interacts with him on friendly basis.  
> …and if Dora the Explorer is a sitcom, I’m just not getting any of the jokes.

Swiper just pretends to occassionally get along with Dora, all part of his evilness 😃

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/79 "2008-09-17T15:56:52Z")

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I don’t think Janitor from Scrubs is really evil. He helps people out occasionally. He’s more like an agent of chaos, inclined to upset the natural order of things.

For sheer depraved indifference, Dr. Venture from the _Venture Brothers_ ranks tops in the evil category. He keeps his sons sheltered and considers them loud, annoying tools instead of children. He disciplines them with passive-aggressive snarks, keeps them naive and socially awkward, and mocks them whenever they show fear or weakness. He also keeps cloned versions of them in storage in case they die, so he doesn’t have to waste his time being a protective parent. They’ve effectively lost 3 years of their lives to reboots.

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-evil-sitcom-character-ever-is/463743/80 "2008-09-17T15:58:17Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Swiper isn’t evil. He’s just a kleptomaniac. When he isn’t swiping, Dora interacts with him on friendly basis.  
> …and if Dora the Explorer is a sitcom, I’m just not getting any of the jokes.

It’s the part where she asks you a question and then waits for you to answer, staring . . . at . . . you . . . and possibly fidgeting a bit. That deliberate breaking of the fourth wall and the sudden amusing but awkward self-awareness that arises in the audience as a result . . . **man** , don’t you _get_ it?!

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