# And the most homoerotic movie ever made is... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 19, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571 "2008-08-19T17:30:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/182 "2008-10-23T05:47:24Z")
Or any of the Jay and Silent Bob movies? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/183 "2008-10-23T06:07:16Z")
Or _The Phantom of the Opera_? You know, the deformed guy, has to hide himself from society (in a theater), thinks that only _one_ woman can “save” him, and is horrified when she rejects him because of his deformity. Sounds kinda like the story of a closeted gay man to me. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/184 "2008-10-23T06:11:42Z")
The correct answer is still Kiss of the Spiderwoman". ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/185 "2008-10-23T06:25:26Z")
**Bill and Ted’s _Excellent_ Adventure** ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/186 "2008-10-23T08:47:56Z")
> [@The\_Scrivener](#): > > No, that’s not what I was thinking. Rather, there’s a certain type of overly macho, dumbass, lewd and crude personality type, of whom some individuals are deeply closeted (even to the point of gay-bashing) gays. These are the kinds of guys who’d form heavy metal bands and write arena stompers to [women’s] “big bottoms,” etc. Come to think about it, a guy who’s desperately trying to pass as straight by adopting those mannerisms _is_ kind of emotionally retarded – but because he’s living in denial and not because he’s gay per se. As for the guys in Spinal Tap, gay or straight, they’re emotionally retarded because they’re in a third-rate, stuffed-crotch, tongue-wriggling glam-ish hair metal band, but there is something about their pervasive sexual crudity that often smacks of overcompensation. Well, that’s just nit-picking, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/187 "2008-10-24T11:53:47Z")
> [@The\_Scrivener](#): > > I got my copy out but couldn’t find it. Mine’s the Studio Canal/MGM “Special Edition” single-disc issue with over an hour’s worth of extra footage (the Joe Franklin Show interview, six TV commercials, some radio spots, etc.) but no listing of deleted scenes. Is your copy a rare Criterion or what? (And is there no doubt about what Nigel and David were referring to… this wasn’t a case of letting a fellow drunkard sleep it off on their couch or floor, was it?) I’ll have to go look again. The scene takes place in a hot tub, and the humor is that the one telling the story doesn’t seem to realize that he’s outing the other (who is rather uncomfortable about the subject). And it seemed pretty clear that the sailor wasn’t there just to crash for the night. Another deleted scene is David meeting his estranged 18 year old son for the first time in 10 years who is totally into the new wave scene. There’s a deleted scene in the Fort Worth Zoo where Nigel talks about apes being “bread-eaters.” and some other stuff with Derek working out his divorce over the phone and getting a roadie to help him with the cucumber. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/188 "2008-10-24T13:54:23Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > The correct answer is still Kiss of the Spiderwoman". It can’t be- that’s ALL text. ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/189 "2008-10-24T22:33:36Z")
I am partial to the movie “The Day the Fish Came Out” (1967). Two pilots crash land in the ocean and spend the entire movie clad in underwear or less. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/190 "2008-10-24T22:47:54Z")
> [@ouryL](#): > > I am partial to the movie “The Day the Fish Came Out” (1967). Two pilots crash land in the ocean and spend the entire movie clad in underwear or less. Damn it! It’s not on Netflix! I want underwear-clad pilots in the ocean! ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/191 "2008-10-24T22:52:12Z")
It’s an oddball comedy that could have been made only in the '60s. The two pilots scamper around the island in their skivvies, and are mistaken by the locals for foreign spies. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/192 "2008-10-25T00:02:07Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > I’ll have to go look again. The scene takes place in a hot tub, and the humor is that the one telling the story doesn’t seem to realize that he’s outing the other (who is rather uncomfortable about the subject). And it seemed pretty clear that the sailor wasn’t there just to crash for the night. Just watched it and it’s Nigel talking about when he and David were sharing a flat and David would bring home sailors to “Share the hide-a-bed.” David reports that it was all in an “Experimental frame of mind.” ---
**Author:** ![Henrichek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5daacb/32.png) [@Henrichek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henrichek)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/193 "2008-11-25T22:40:42Z")
Meh. I don’t find movies like 300 to be gay. Just because a movie contains some buff men doesn’t make it gay. Same goes for a movie like Gladiator. Are Arnie movies gay also? If that’s you peoples’ standard for gay, then you’ve made whole genres gay. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/194 "2008-11-26T00:53:03Z")
> [@Henrichek](#): > > … If that’s you peoples’ standard for gay, then you’ve made whole genres gay. yup ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/195 "2008-11-26T11:17:56Z")
“Homoerotic” does not equal “gay” ---
**Author:** ![Henrichek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5daacb/32.png) [@Henrichek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henrichek)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/196 "2008-11-26T11:40:24Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > “Homoerotic” does not equal “gay” Well, the OP mentioned “gayest movie”, hence my wording. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/197 "2008-11-26T12:00:23Z")
> [@Savannah](#): > > Ooh! I see what you mean. However, it’s a nice treat for my Sunday morning surfing. um … bathtub … wow. i need a moment alone … ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/198 "2008-11-26T12:38:42Z")
We’re missing a whole genre. What about pirate movies, or just movies of ships at sea. That’s practically a cliche. That and _Midnight Run_. ---
**Author:** ![Punintentional](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9de0a6/32.png) [@Punintentional](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punintentional)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/199 "2008-11-26T13:17:18Z")
I haven’t seen 300, but can i ask why it is so often cited as a hugely homoerotic film? It can’t only be because it features a great deal of hot male bodies can it? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/200 "2008-11-26T13:31:55Z")
> [@Punintentional](#): > > I haven’t seen 300, but can i ask why it is so often cited as a hugely homoerotic film? > > It can’t only be because it features a great deal of hot male bodies can it? From the **Village Voice** [review](http://www.villagevoice.com/2007-02-27/film/man-on-man-action/): > [@](#): > > Delicacies of dismemberment aside, 300 is notable for its outrageous sexual confusion. Here stands the Spartan king Leonidas (Gerard Butler) and his 299 buddies in nothing but leather man-panties and oiled torsos, clutching a variety of phalluses they seek to thrust in the bodies of their foes by trapping them in a small, rectum-like mountain passage called the “gates of hell(o!)” Yonder rises the Persian menace, led by the slinky, mascara’d Xerxes. When he’s not flaring his nostrils at Leonidas and demanding he kneel down before his, uh, majesty, this flamboyantly pierced crypto-transsexual lounges on chinchilla throw pillows amidst a rump-shaking orgy of disfigured lesbians. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/201 "2008-11-26T13:40:32Z")
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