# And the most homoerotic movie ever made is... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 19, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571 "2008-08-19T17:30:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/101 "2008-08-20T20:39:45Z")
[QUOTE=Max Torque] I’m going to suggest one would probably never occur to most of y’all: **A Nightmare On Elm Street 2: Freddy’s Revenge**. I offer the following as evidence:[ul] [li]The “hero” has the androgynous name “Jesse”.[/li][li]Jessie screams. A lot. At an unusually high pitch.[/li][li]In one of the first scenes, Jesse’s good friend Grady pulls Jesse’s pants down during a baseball game. Naked man-ass shot number 1.[/li][li]Because of that, their coach orders them to do push-ups. Exact words, “Assume the position.”[/li][li]Lest you think I’m grasping at straws with the above, Grady and Jesse then discuss whether the coach is gay.[/li][li]An “unpacking montage” with Jesse, including close-ups of him butt-bumping drawers closed and doing a “yankin’ my crank” movement.[/li][li]Dialogue: “Grady, do you remember your dreams?” “Only the wet ones.”[/li][li]Jesse sneaks out at night, looks for a bar, and ends up at a gay club. And guess what, the coach is there![/li][li]Coach makes Jesse run laps and shower. This leads into Coach’s death scene, which includes Coach being tied up with jump ropes, stripped naked, and his ass snapped with towels. Naked man-ass shot number 2. Total number of boobs in the movie, by the way, is zero.[/li][li]More close-ups of Jesse’s crotch in his underwear.[/li][li]A freaked-out Jesse runs away from his girlfriend to Grady’s house. Dialogue: “Something is trying to get inside my body.” “Yeah, she’s female and she’s waiting for you in the cabana. And you wanna sleep with me.” Grady then agrees to watch Jesse sleep.[/li][li]Then there’s more gibbering and crying and stuff until the very chaste ending.[/li][/ul] Considering that this was supposed to be a slasher pic, the director made some very odd choices. I felt that he was having entirely too much fun taking pictures of young men in their underwear. [/QUOTE] :eek: I am gasping not at the notion of a slasher movie with gay subtext, but at the thought of one without exposed boobs. What is the PURPOSE of slasher movies without mammary glands being exposed? ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/102 "2008-08-20T23:38:42Z")
I always thought there was something going on between Ripley and Winonna Rider’s character in _Alien IV: Resurrection_. ---
**Author:** ![ever\_rambling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@ever\_rambling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ever_rambling)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/103 "2008-08-22T12:59:48Z")
No love for batman & Robin? The statues in the background/ phallic goth archectural detail. the hot drummers, and _circus people_and motorcycles . ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/104 "2008-08-22T18:09:50Z")
[QUOTE=ever rambling] No love for batman & Robin? The statues in the background/ phallic goth archectural detail. the hot drummers, and _circus people_and motorcycles . [/QUOTE] :: sighs, puts on sunglasses, pulls our neuralizer, & presses button:: No movie named Batman & Robin was ever released. Joel Schumacher began work on it and completed the first 10 minutes, but due to being stabbed repeatedly in the left eye by a knitted needled (wielded by Maria Shriver) he was unable to do any more work, and the protection was shut down. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/105 "2008-08-22T18:17:32Z")
[QUOTE=ever rambling] No love for batman & Robin? The statues in the background/ phallic goth archectural detail. the hot drummers, and _circus people_and motorcycles . [/QUOTE] _Circus people_ ? Are you thinking about _Batman Forever_ where we see Dick Grayson’s acrobat family get wasted? The gayness of _Batman and Robin_ was used as a throwaway joke at the end of _Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back_, which itself had a lot of gayness. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/106 "2008-08-22T18:59:16Z")
[QUOTE=monstro] I always thought there was something going on between Ripley and Winonna Rider’s character in _Alien IV: Resurrection_. [/QUOTE] I never did, until you put that image in my head, where it will now reside happily forever. ---
**Author:** ![Malienation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Malienation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malienation)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/107 "2008-08-22T19:28:56Z")
Hey! **Fight Club** fans, can I get an amen? ---
**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/108 "2008-08-22T20:09:22Z")
[QUOTE=Malienation] Hey! **Fight Club** fans, can I get an amen? [/QUOTE] Rule number one - you do not discuss the blowjobs that occur during fight club. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/109 "2008-08-22T20:11:33Z")
Fight Club - homoerotic? Maybe. Autoerotic? Definitely. ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/110 "2008-08-22T20:24:39Z")
Not a mention of Fast and the Furious… I 'mean all the smouldering looks Vin Deisel and his counterpart toss at each other while being good “buddies” just screams “Hellllooooo” ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/111 "2008-08-23T00:05:23Z")
The correct answer is of course [**Toy Story**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=305728). [**Predator**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=306711) is a close runner-up. Remember, kids, subtext is just an anagram of buttsex. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2008, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/112 "2008-08-23T01:44:36Z")
[QUOTE=Scissorjack] Remember, kids, subtext is just an anagram of buttsex. [/QUOTE] Jesus, that is hilarious. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2008, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/113 "2008-08-23T02:43:37Z")
[QUOTE=Walloon] What makes you think that the gay subtext of _Rope_ was unintentional? Screenwriter Arthur Laurents and stars John Dall and Farley Granger were gay. I think Hitchcock knew what he was doing. [/QUOTE] [John Barrowman](http://www.johnbarrowman.com/stage/rope.html), Alexis Denisoff & Anthony Head appeared in a production of _Rope_ back in 1993. > [@](#): > > The play was adapted for the screen in 1948 by Alfred Hitchcock, starring Jimmy Stewart as headmaster Rupert Cadell. Although the clear homosexual overtones were played down in the film, it was banned in several places around the US. I don’t think Barrowman does subtext. Back to movies. _Fellowship_ is on TNT right now. Legolas & Aragorn were _so_ doing it. When Aragorn wasn’t sharing Manly Man Tension with Boromir. (Tonight, I may not stay with the movie until “My Brother, My Captain, My King.” Sniff.) And who knows what those hobbits got up to among themselves… ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/114 "2008-08-23T02:52:55Z")
Frankly, the problem with _300_ is that it _isn’t gay enough._ Sanitizing out the overt homosexuality that was rampant in Spartan culture and replacing it with schoolyard homophobia was a predictable but offensive decision. Sailboat ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2008, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/115 "2008-08-23T04:44:00Z")
[QUOTE=Bridget Burke] [John Barrowman](http://www.johnbarrowman.com/stage/rope.html), Alexis Denisoff & Anthony Head appeared in a production of _Rope_ back in 1993. [/QUOTE] Sweet christ, you’re giving me the vapours 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2008, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/116 "2008-08-23T06:50:09Z")
[QUOTE=Illuminatiprimus] Ooooh, I end up provoking yet another thread, I’m getting good at this. 🙂 Well I’m sticking with my nomination from the original thread - Topgun. Seriously, that film gave me all the masturbation fodder I needed to keep me going through my teenage years until I could get my hands on some real gay porn. [/QUOTE] …and my best friend and I ditched our boyfriends and spent the entire movie making out in the ladies’ room. I was SO confused! 😕 ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2008, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/117 "2008-08-23T07:25:10Z")
Oh please … [My Own Private Idaho](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Own_Private_Idaho). Nothing else comes close. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/118 "2008-08-23T15:49:19Z")
The OP excluded movies including “overt homosexual relationships” so I think that one in which River Phoenix and Keanu Reeves played rent boys (and River’s character was gay; it was less clear whether Keanu’s character was) doesn’t count. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2008, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/119 "2008-08-23T15:50:52Z")
What about _Lawrence of Arabia_? Or is that too “text”? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/120 "2008-08-23T17:36:31Z")
[QUOTE=Dewey Finn] (and River’s character was gay; it was less clear whether Keanu’s character was) [/QUOTE] I think given his vehement statements about guys not kissing other guys and his enthusiastic screwing of the Italian farmgirl makes it pretty clear that Keanu’s character was straight. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571.md?page=7)