# And the most homoerotic movie ever made is... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 19, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571 "2008-08-19T17:30:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/161 "2008-10-21T01:32:23Z")
\*\*Thunderbolt and Lightfoot \*\*in which Beau Bridges says to his pick up travel mate, Clint Eastwood, something like “we could make a good couple” and Clint replies, ruefully, “You’re 20 years too late!” ---
**Author:** ![BMax](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bmax/32/4267_2.png) [@BMax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMax)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/162 "2008-10-21T04:23:28Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I said I didn’t see it for the FIRST movie. I agree that there’s Legolas-Gimli subtext in the other two, as they reconciled up in Lothlorien. And nobody has sex in Lothlorien, as everrone’s too busy pining for the unattainable Galadriel and frantically thinking of ways to earn their way into her bed. > > Well, everybody except for Celeborn, who’s already in her bed, and Arwen & Celebrian, as that would be ooky. I think an Arwen/Galadriel subplot would have so hot. A lonely Arwen, pining for her Aragorn, being comforted by Galadriel. They could sponge each other down at Galadriel’s magical birdbath. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/163 "2008-10-21T04:33:01Z")
> [@BMax](#): > > I think an Arwen/Galadriel subplot would have so hot. A lonely Arwen, pining for her Aragorn, being comforted by Galadriel. They could sponge each other down at Galadriel’s magical birdbath. Wasn’t Galadriel Arwen’s grandmother? Eeewww. ---
**Author:** ![BMax](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bmax/32/4267_2.png) [@BMax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMax)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/164 "2008-10-21T06:08:38Z")
I did not know that. Yeah, eeeeeeewwwww is right. I think that goes in the 'Creepy slash pairings list" Does that make Galadriel ElRond’s mom? Is Celeborn his dad or his step-dad?Because that makes the “psychic phone call” a little weird, like “Yeah, mom, I sent the hobbits off to Mordor. I don’t know how they’re going to get there, but they’re with Aragorn & Gandalf, they’ll be OK. I have to go now. Tell, um, Celeborn that I said hi”. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/165 "2008-10-21T06:24:02Z")
Galadriel is Arwen’s maternal grandmother so Elrond’s psychic phonecall is to his mother-in-law. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/167 "2008-10-21T15:13:49Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Galadriel is Arwen’s maternal grandmother so Elrond’s psychic phonecall is to his mother-in-law. And, IIRC, Aragon is Arwin’s adopted brother. But they didn’t meet until he was 20 or so. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/168 "2008-10-21T17:59:14Z")
> [@BMax](#): > > I think an Arwen/Galadriel subplot would have so hot. A lonely Arwen, pining for her Aragorn, being comforted by Galadriel. They could sponge each other down at Galadriel’s magical birdbath. I just got a phone call from my Uncle Luci. He wants you to confirm which wing of Hell you want to stay in. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/169 "2008-10-21T18:31:25Z")
**The Wild Bunch.** T.C. (LQ Jones) and Coffer (Strother Martin) are clearly a bickering gay couple. Their love, however, dwindles to nothing in comparison to the white hot manlove that flamed between Pike (Bill Holden) and Dutch (Ernest Borgnine). The whole movie is like some sort of surrealistically violent, sweaty homoerotic paradise. The scene of Mapache (Emilio Fernandez) trying to fire a machine gun offhand is so relentlessy phallic that it deserves an analysis all its own. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/170 "2008-10-21T21:25:03Z")
Not the most, certainly, but \*\*This is Spinal Tap \*\*deserves a mention. Beneath all the homoerotic stage posturing, crotch-stuffing, mostly young-male fans and emotionally retarded lyrics, there’s a simple boy-loves-boy story: Nigel can’t deal with David’s girlfriend Jeanine and leaves the band, for a while, but returns in an ecstatic, orgiastic round of duelling guitar solos in front of thousands of screaming Japanese fanboys. Plus Paul Schaeffer just begs to get kicked in the ass. And he’s pretty gay to begin with! ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/171 "2008-10-22T12:28:39Z")
…a veritable queen’s nest! Timothy Hutton wants to be George C. Scott’s bitch…and lusts after sean penn! The ending is like Alexander the great-except the wrong people get killed! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/172 "2008-10-22T18:35:04Z")
It’s a TV series not a movie, but [_Lost_](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0E1s9CFnG4) is surprisingly homoerotic. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/173 "2008-10-22T18:58:02Z")
> [@The\_Scrivener](#): > > Not the most, certainly, but \*\*This is Spinal Tap \*\*deserves a mention. Beneath all the homoerotic stage posturing, crotch-stuffing, mostly young-male fans and emotionally retarded lyrics, there’s a simple boy-loves-boy story: Nigel can’t deal with David’s girlfriend Jeanine and leaves the band, for a while, but returns in an ecstatic, orgiastic round of duelling guitar solos in front of thousands of screaming Japanese fanboys. > > Plus Paul Schaeffer just begs to get kicked in the ass. And he’s pretty gay to begin with! One of the deleted scenes is Nigel and David talking about the time one of them brought a sailor home for the night. Takes it right out of subtext and straight into the text. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/174 "2008-10-22T19:04:44Z")
> [@The\_Scrivener](#): > > Beneath all the homoerotic stage posturing, crotch-stuffing, mostly young-male fans and emotionally retarded lyrics So you’re saying that homosexuals are emotionally retarded? Explain. > [@The\_Scrivener](#): > > Plus Paul Schaeffer just begs to get kicked in the ass. [Shaffer](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Shaffer). ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/175 "2008-10-22T19:06:16Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It’s a TV series not a movie, but [_Lost_](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0E1s9CFnG4) is surprisingly homoerotic. Video slash, sure. I want to see the scenes where they actually gave each other back rubs and lovingly smeared oil all over each other “for decontamination purposes.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mississippienne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@Mississippienne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mississippienne)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/176 "2008-10-22T19:16:22Z")
Oh, and as for LesYay, I remember hoping in _Kuch Kuch Hota Hai_ that Big Anjali and Tina would get together. They would’ve been way better for each other than either was with asshole Rahul. ---
**Author:** ![gladtobeblazed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85f322/32.png) [@gladtobeblazed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gladtobeblazed)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/177 "2008-10-22T19:20:47Z")
Anybody else get a homoerotic vibe from The Pineapple Express? I was expecting Rogan and Franco to start making out. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/178 "2008-10-22T19:27:33Z")
> [@Leiko](#): > > How can you mention Point Break and Shaun of the Dead right next to each other and not reach the logical conclusion of Hot Fuzz? I’d say that Nick Angel and Danny Butterman have way more homoerotic subtext than Shaun and Ed- although with Simon Pegg and Nick Frost, you can pretty much expect homoerotic subtext whatever they do. But it’s especially prevalent in Hot Fuzz, since Nick was originally scripted with a female love interest, but she was in the way of the story, so they just gave most of her lines straight to Danny instead. I think I didn’t mention **Hot Fuzz** because I was talking about subtext, and there’s _nothing_ subtextual about the relationship in that movie. It’s very much a romance between Nick and Danny, and Pegg and Frost have been upfront about that from the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/179 "2008-10-23T02:54:11Z")
> [@Walloon](#): > > So you’re saying that homosexuals are emotionally retarded? Explain. No, that’s not what I was thinking. Rather, there’s a certain type of overly macho, dumbass, lewd and crude personality type, of whom some individuals are deeply closeted (even to the point of gay-bashing) gays. These are the kinds of guys who’d form heavy metal bands and write arena stompers to [women’s] “big bottoms,” etc. Come to think about it, a guy who’s desperately trying to pass as straight by adopting those mannerisms _is_ kind of emotionally retarded – but because he’s living in denial and not because he’s gay per se. As for the guys in Spinal Tap, gay or straight, they’re emotionally retarded because they’re in a third-rate, stuffed-crotch, tongue-wriggling glam-ish hair metal band, but there is something about their pervasive sexual crudity that often smacks of overcompensation. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/180 "2008-10-23T03:22:47Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > One of the deleted scenes is Nigel and David talking about the time one of them brought a sailor home for the night. Takes it right out of subtext and straight into the text. I got my copy out but couldn’t find it. Mine’s the Studio Canal/MGM “Special Edition” single-disc issue with over an hour’s worth of extra footage (the Joe Franklin Show interview, six TV commercials, some radio spots, etc.) but no listing of deleted scenes. Is your copy a rare Criterion or what? (And is there no doubt about what Nigel and David were referring to… this wasn’t a case of letting a fellow drunkard sleep it off on their couch or floor, was it?) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-most-homoerotic-movie-ever-made-is/460571/181 "2008-10-23T04:57:39Z")
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