# And the neurotic frenchie wins AGAIN! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 22, 2004, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552 "2004-10-22T04:01:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Spree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@Spree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spree)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/21 "2004-10-23T01:04:29Z")
Ah, Mick the Kerry Blue Terrier. I remember him well…that furball beat out my beloved [Dallas](http://www.dognews.com:16080/doglinks/bennett_woods/), World’s Most Awesome German Shepherd ™. Yes, 2003 was a good year for Not-Poodles. ---
**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/22 "2004-10-23T03:08:32Z")
> [@Max Torque](#): > > How can you say no to that face? Easy. “NO! Dammit, stop running into the wall! NO!!” See? ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/23 "2004-10-27T17:37:11Z")
> [@Balduran](#): > > Instead of the dogs walking around a track, I think they should be driven. Then they could be judged on how well their heads hang out the window. Bonus points if their tongues are flapping in the wind. This is the best idea to come along in years. Point system: **Head sticking out the window** : 20 points. **Head sticking out the window and jowls are puffed out by air:** 35 points **Barking like a maniac the entire drive:** 50 points. **Barking like a maniac out the window the entire drive** 100 points **Barking only at the police officer who is writing you a ticket** : 100 points **Laying in the backseat with head hanging out the window while sleeping:** 40 points. **Randomly licking the closed window:** 10 points **Nose prints:** 10 points **Getting head almost stuck between the seat back and seat cushion trying to get the very last mummified french fry that is wedge down there:** 75 points. \*\*Sitting in the front passenger seat looking straight forward: \*\*40 points. **Laying in the front passenger seat, head on Humans lap to be petted** : 200 points. **Sitting between two captains chairs in a van, perfectly still for the entire drive:** 125 points. **Trying to sit in the drivers seat while human is driving:** 1000 points. \*\*Sitting in the backseat, window open, going through a drive thru and getting a treat handed directly to you from the staff because _you are such a good boy_ : 1000 points. \*\*Sitting wedged between two car seats with two sets of goobering hands touching your fur while Mommy takes you for a ride and you don’t eat any of the children: \*\* 100,000 points. **Sitting in the backseat, put entire head into the McDonald’s bag that is sitting between the two front seats:** 125,000 points. ---
**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/24 "2004-10-27T18:06:21Z")
You forgot: **attempting to squeeze entire body through partially open window in order to chase the squirrel spotted across the street:** 10000 points And **politely making that small whining noise on long drives to let the driver know “it’s time”:** 5000 points Oh, what about **barking so loud through the closed window that the dog in the next car over on the freeway hears it through _their_ closed window and barks back:** 150000 points My dog would be a serious contender in this competition. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/25 "2004-10-27T18:10:24Z")
> [@Shirley Ujest](#): > > But, why would anyone enter a dog show to hope to win their breed when invariably it will end up going to one of three breeds: Standard Poodle, Toy Poodle and Family Sedan Poodle with an entertainment system? :snerk: Looks like something that could be from a Dave Barry column. Kudos! ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/26 "2004-10-27T18:48:04Z")
> [@Ghanima](#): > > You forgot: > **attempting to squeeze entire body through partially open window in order to chase the squirrel spotted across the street:** 10000 points **Attempting to squeeze entire body through partially open window to chase the squirrel spotted across the street and ends up somehow wedged on the back window deck thingie with its entire body blocking drivers rear view like a lunar eclipse.** : 5000 points. **Human has to use brakes to get dog down from back window deck thingie when said dog is rather befuddled on how to do this on its own:** 10,000 points. ---
**Author:** ![JusDubn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@JusDubn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JusDubn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/27 "2004-10-27T18:53:44Z")
> [@Shirley Ujest](#): > > Basenji’s, though relatively unknown still, are barkless, don’t shed and yodel. Do poodles yodel? And they clean themselves like cats. [Obie, my part time Basenji](http://www.dtmpower.net/ppost2/watermark.php?file=500/1020091IMG_0064-med.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![GrizzRich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@GrizzRich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrizzRich)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/28 "2004-10-27T19:55:19Z")
Don’t you think John and Patsy Ramsey would be showing dogs if they were childless. Yeesh…gives me a shiver to think it! ---
**Author:** ![Elenfair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cc9497/32.png) [@Elenfair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elenfair)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/29 "2004-10-27T21:18:08Z")
I have been showing dogs for years. You’re right - if you want to win in the show ring - especially the group or BIS ring, you need a poodle - of any size - a toy breed, or a terrier. Don’t even try with a retriever (or any sporting dog) or a working/herding dog. With a few very notable exceptions, they rarely win in the best in show ring. I just wish they’d stop turning poodles into Doggy Topiaries. Gimme a wash-n-wear dog, any day. A dog who still has function. Poodles were freakin’ RETRIEVERS for god’s sake. Now they’re classified in the toy or non-working groups! They’re not functional anymore! What the hell, I ask you! 😉 Then again, finding a multi-BIS (MBIS) dog with “titles on both ends” is fairly rare.\* Freakin’ poodles! E. \*Titles on both ends: the Championship title on a dog goes in front of their name. The titles after their registered name usually are functional titles: agility, obedience, tracking, herding, weight-pulling, schutzhund, etc. Some functionality titles at the “championship level” (super super advanced) will also go at the front of the dog’s name, but few are those who get there. ---
**Author:** ![bughunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@bughunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bughunter)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/30 "2004-10-27T22:06:47Z")
For some reason, everytime I list the Pit threads, and see this title, I think this is a political thread… But then, in the previous post, I read the phrase as “titties at both ends” twice, before finally rereading and parsing it right. Yes, I need help. The 2004 election season is taking far too long. And so is my wife’s post-partum healing. (me, getting the news from the OB: “Six _weeks!?!_” :eek: ) ---
**Author:** ![Krisfer\_the\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Krisfer\_the\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krisfer_the_Cat)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/31 "2004-10-28T02:48:42Z")
> [@bughunter](#): > > But then, in the previous post, I read the phrase as “titties at both ends” twice, before finally rereading and parsing it right. Nice to know I am NOT the only one! It was a visual I blush to think about… And Shirley I think my Bo would do just fine in your show, this half shepard, half husky will try to rip the heart out of anyone who DARES step foot on his property but turns into a whining, shivering pile of dog fur when faced with having to get into the truck!! I changed vets just so we could WALK to the vet for his shots. :o and for the neighbors dog:\*\* Launching herself off the top of the fence in a graceful arc to land at my feet when I walk outside to feed my dog: 10,000 points\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/32 "2004-10-28T10:55:15Z")
YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY! I made threadspotting! Whooooooo Hooooooooooo! Thanks **Baker**! You rawk! ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/33 "2004-10-28T10:58:42Z")
About time 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/34 "2004-10-28T11:13:35Z")
I don’t think that you should say that about the Red Sox 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/35 "2004-10-28T17:42:50Z")
> [@cmkeller](#): > > Where’s a Hypno-Toad when you really need one? RIGHT HERE. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/36 "2004-10-28T17:52:33Z")
> [@Max Torque](#): > > You’re absolutely right. Every year, it’s the damn poodles. And I ask you, why not the noble pug? Tell me [this](http://members.cox.net/maxtorque/thepug.jpg) doesn’t deserve to win a major canine competition! > > Apart from the fact that she’s totally undisciplined and won’t sit still for a brushing, of course… **Max** that dog is simply awesome! You could enter in BIS whilst sleeping on the couch arm. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/37 "2004-10-28T21:36:27Z")
“Bichon Frise”? Isn’t that a kind of quiche? 🙂 > [@](#): > > Doggy Topiaries I’ve started calling those sculptured shrubberies “poodle bushes”. 🙂 > [@GrizzRich](#): > > Don’t you think John and Patsy Ramsey would be showing dogs if they were childless. > > Yeesh…gives me a shiver to think it! Now _that’s_ one of the most doisturbing things I’ve read here. My aunt had a chihuahua named “Binky” (shudder) that she doted on, doing things like feeding it in her lap at the dinner table. The rest of the family loathed it. It was territorial, vindictive, and paranoid. It terrorised us kids. We only had peace during thunderstorms, when it would hide under one of the beds. Later, it died. We were happy. Then she got another chihuahua and named it “Chicky” (double shudder). Later, it died too, and we were happy. She got another dog, but this time it was a Lhasa Apso which was actually kind of cute, and we got along with it. It did have a tendency to hump anything within reach though. Are all small dogs nerotic, or is that just a side-effect of certain owners? ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/38 "2004-10-28T22:24:02Z")
Misleading title. I believed I had won something… ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/39 "2004-10-29T03:02:16Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > Are all small dogs nerotic, or is that just a side-effect of certain owners? Side effect. We’ve got a small dog (Bichon Frieze cross Tibetan Terrier, looks like [this](http://www.lostvalleytibetanterrier.com/pabloseduto.jpg) ) and the only time he goes annoying and yappy is when we get the leash out. As soon as it goes on he shuts up. At all other times he’s more like a breathing teddy bear. He can also keep up and give his own in playfights with our other dog, a Maremma about 10 times his size. Watching a full grown [Maremma](http://ag.ansc.purdue.edu/sheep/ansc442/Semprojs/2002/predation/maremma1.jpg) get pinned by a dog that only reaches it’s knees is very entertaining! ---
**Author:** ![malkabat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@malkabat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkabat)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552/40 "2004-10-29T04:08:56Z")
> [@Shirley Ujest](#): > > And the neurotic frenchie wins AGAIN! {Milo Perrier}I’m not a Frenchie…I’m a BELGIE!{/Perrier} Sorry…I couldn’t resist! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-neurotic-frenchie-wins-again/270552.md?page=3)