# And the Republicans Show That They Are Not Serious About Governement **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 24, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631 "2010-03-24T15:32:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/41 "2010-03-25T01:31:15Z")
Borrowed from TV… “Our govt should be a tug of war, with the rope being pulled back and forth over the middle. Today we have one side pulling at the rope, and the other side doing everything they can to unravel it.” That was probably said a year ago. I see our sole “defender” up to this point basically acknowledges and encourages this behavior. So his position isn’t “No! Rs ARE serious about govt!” It is “Those mean old Ds deserve it! Whaaa! the minority lost, so we must break shit!” Fucking hilarious. I do agree with him that roughly half the country is that far gone though. The Franken amendment example is weak. It was related to the case. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/42 "2010-03-25T02:02:45Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > I’m just remembering with interest [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=536360) which noted that a certain Senator was trying to get movement on a bill about employment contract arbitration by linking the issue to a horrific case of rape. The politics of the issue were pretty clear - vote against the bill and you appeared to be supporting rape, sexual abuse and all kinds of nasty things. Jesus, this is a disingenuous load of crap. There was nothing “political” about that. It was an attempt to combat a particularly sleazy corporate practice that prevented a rape victim from being able to sue or prosecute her rapists. This also doesn’t have the slightest fucking thing to do with this thread and is not a defense of your punk-ass, racist, rape-defending party or of its abdication of professional responsibility. > [@](#): > > This was pointed out - and didn’t trouble you in the least. Proof is in the link. > > I’ve said before on these boards that while I may wish for a more civil political sphere I will not advocate for unilateral disarmament for my side. Putting on the gloves when your opponent has bare knuckles and a crowbar isn’t smart. So I’m happy Senator Coburn did this, and I hope he keeps it coming. > > I recall that Senator Coburn worked with Senator Obama on major legislation in the past, so he isn’t opposed to such and presumably will support it again sometime. But if the Democrats insist on passing this kind of legislation in this kind of way, and even do things like stage a health care summit [with no intention of working bipartisan solutions out](http://www.slate.com/id/2248735/) then that may have to wait a time. > > I realize this won’t be a popular answer. Tough. It is the same answer you’d get from about half the country, and more polite than some. What a bunch of evasive fucking drivel. Please explain why this particular tactic needs to be exercised. How does it serve the country? Have you even read the OP? Do you have any idea what you’re even being asked to defend? ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/43 "2010-03-25T02:04:19Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > apolitical people lulz. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/44 "2010-03-25T02:10:45Z")
By the way, what “bipartsian solutions” did the Repiublicans ever offer? Obama bent over backwards trying to get those tools to come to the table, but they’d decided on their strategy to stonewall HRC even before Obama even took office. They’re too terrified of Fox News to blow their own noses without Glenn Beck’s permission. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/45 "2010-03-25T02:11:12Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > lulz. tl:dr ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/46 "2010-03-25T02:24:25Z")
> [@Abe\_Babe](#): > > They’re serious about government not letting gays and lesbians marry. . . Listen missy, if you can think of a graver threat to the US than allowing people in love to get married, I’d like to hear it… ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/47 "2010-03-25T02:26:08Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > tl:dr orly? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/48 "2010-03-25T02:34:20Z")
Let’s not bring THAT crazy bitch into this. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/49 "2010-03-25T02:53:05Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Let’s not bring THAT crazy bitch into this. [http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/orly\_taitz\_files\_challenge\_to\_health\_care\_reform.php](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/orly_taitz_files_challenge_to_health_care_reform.php) Too late! I think she’s learned what Standing is, though. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/50 "2010-03-25T03:23:21Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > I think she’s learned what Standing is, though. Your link is a tad vague about providing evidence for that assertion. Could you give me a quote? ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/51 "2010-03-25T03:23:28Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > [http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/orly\_taitz\_files\_challenge\_to\_health\_care\_reform.php](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/orly_taitz_files_challenge_to_health_care_reform.php) > > Too late! I think she’s learned what Standing is, though. I had no idea my socialized nazi government health plan included dental. Yay! ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/52 "2010-03-25T03:50:48Z")
I’ve heard Socialist Nazi dentistry is extremely good. I guess we can only wait and find out! ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/53 "2010-03-25T03:51:27Z")
Seeing as how the healthcare bill is quite similar to Romney’s Massachusetts reform, which was heavily based on reform ideas promulgated by the Heritage Foundation when Clinton was looking to reform, I’m not sure why the Republicans are freaking out so much. This will pretty much kill Romney’s chances of getting the nomination in 2012. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/54 "2010-03-25T03:53:09Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Your link is a tad vague about providing evidence for that assertion. Could you give me a quote? Basically it’s just that she’s learned enough to try to complain that she is personally being injured by the bill. Her reasoning is utterly batshit, though: > [@](#): > > “VIOLATION OF COMMERCE CLAUSE AND OF PLAINTIFF’S RIGHTS TO GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT AS A DOCTOR OF DENTAL SURGERY UPON DEFENDANT’S IMMINENT SIGHNING OF THE HEALTH BILL”: > > “Health bill, as being prepared and reconciled, will create an enormous machine of governmental burocracy which will intrude into Plaintiff’s practice, will affect her doctor-patient relations, will undermine her Hippocratic oath, will force her to ration medical care and de-facto deny medical care to elderly, whom some committees of burocrats will deem to be too old to receive such care, meaning too old to live.” (Typos in original.) This is like Timecube shit. I hope she can drill teeth better than she can spell. Can you imagine seeing that jack-in-the-box head leering down at you while you’re under the gas? What part of the new legislation empowers “burocrats” [sic] to deny dental care to the elderly? I’m surprised that didn’t get more attention. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/55 "2010-03-25T03:56:45Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > I’m just remembering with interest [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=536360) which noted that a certain Senator was trying to get movement on a bill about employment contract arbitration by linking the issue to a horrific case of rape. The politics of the issue were pretty clear - vote against the bill and you appeared to be supporting rape, sexual abuse and all kinds of nasty things. [The big difference here, though, is that Senator Franken actually accomplished something with his use of our taxpayer dollars in the House.](http://www.scotusblog.com/2010/03/case-on-war-zone-job-rights-ends/#more-17683) The difference is that his cause was just and right prevailed. Here’s a fun exercise–[go read this absolutely excellent article](http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/a/m/americandad/2010/03/an-open-letter-to-conservative.php?ref=mp)\*, and click on some links, then come back and tell us if mebbe those of us who’re :dubious: about the whirling shitfits the Republicans are throwing are perhaps correct in our judgement that it’s just a tad beyond the pale. Alternately, come back and tell us how it’s all a buncha bullshit and just another example of lib’rul media bias. \*_best BS rebuttal reference I’ve found in months, no shit. Should’ve titled it CITE, MOTHERFUCKER!_😃 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/56 "2010-03-25T04:16:01Z")
> [@C3](#): > > I had no idea my socialized nazi government health plan included dental. Yay! Yes, but iss it zafe? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/57 "2010-03-25T04:21:42Z")
Ask [Dustin Hoffman](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074860/). ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/58 "2010-03-25T09:47:37Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Your link is a tad vague about providing evidence for that assertion. Could you give me a quote? I didn’t say she was applying it correctly, but she is claiming that it will affect her work as a dentist. Now she gets to learn about unripeness! ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/59 "2010-03-25T13:12:12Z")
Well. Now that the Republicans have Orly “Kenyan Usurper” Taitz in their corner, what could possibly go sour for them? ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631/60 "2010-03-25T14:49:28Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > What part of the new legislation empowers “burocrats” [sic] to deny dental care to the elderly? I’m surprised that didn’t get more attention. Maybe the theory is that once the death panels kill off the old folks, Orly won’t be able to provide them with dental care. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republicans-show-that-they-are-not-serious-about-governement/533631.md?page=4)