# And the Seas Were as Blood.. (Evil Dead 4) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 4, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361 "2005-02-04T14:08:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/1 "2005-02-04T14:08:31Z")
> **[Raimi to direct EVIL DEAD 4 as well as produce EVIL DEAD remake!](http://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/19340)** > > Hey folks, Harry here with the most exciting film news since all the hubbub started on Ray Harryhausen working on a new SINBAD film. While nothing could be that cool a New Bruce Campbell as Ash being directed by Sam Raimi movie well -... It’s the Apocalypse, people. It… was never supposed to happen. Oh, Joy. Oh, Rapture! Literally! Cats and dogs, living together… total hysteria! ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/2 "2005-02-04T14:26:27Z")
When Bruce Campbell updates [this page](http://www.bruce-campbell.com/projects/evil-dead-4.htm), then I’ll believe it. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/3 "2005-02-04T14:33:01Z")
If Raimi throws enough money at Bruce, it’ll happen. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/4 "2005-02-04T14:38:04Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > [http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=19340](http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=19340) > > It’s the Apocalypse, people. It… was never supposed to happen. > > Oh, Joy. Oh, Rapture! Literally! > > Cats and dogs, living together… total hysteria! [Ghostbusters fanboy] Actually, the line is “mass hysteria”. [/Ghostbusters fanboy] But I wouldn’t believe anything I read on Ain’t It Cool News. Those guys are really irresponsible in how they throw around unsubstantiated rumors, gossip, and unabashed fan speculation in the name of “insider information.” ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/5 "2005-02-04T14:41:29Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > [Ghostbusters fanboy] Actually, the line is “mass hysteria”. [/Ghostbusters fanboy] Hmm… IMDB agrees with you… Touche. > [@](#): > > But I wouldn’t believe anything I read on Ain’t It Cool News. Those guys are really irresponsible in how they throw around unsubstantiated rumors, gossip, and unabashed fan speculation in the name of “insider information.” Did you follow the link? They’re linking to another site’s interview with Raimi. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/6 "2005-02-04T15:13:25Z")
Don’t even joke about this. Having Ash back would, well, just about make my year. I worship Bruce Campbell. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/7 "2005-02-04T15:20:37Z")
I really don’t see the need. **Army of Darkness** ’s original ending concludeed the trilogy perfectly. Besides, BC is 46 now, so he’s getting a bit old to continue this series. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/8 "2005-02-04T15:28:16Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > I really don’t see the need. **Army of Darkness** ’s original ending concludeed the trilogy perfectly. Besides, BC is 46 now, so he’s getting a bit old to continue this series. And in any fandom thread, there’s always someone who stops by to take a dump on the proceedings. 😛 Thanks, **gobear**. That said, I disagree on every point. I hate the original Army of Darkness ending. It felt anticlimactic. And Bruce at 46 is just fine to continue - Shatner was much older in Star Trek VI, and that went well. Harrison Ford was 46 when he made Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, and he was holding up just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/9 "2005-02-04T15:42:48Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > And in any fandom thread, there’s always someone who stops by to take a dump on the proceedings. 😛 Thanks, **gobear**. > > That said, I disagree on every point. I hate the original Army of Darkness ending. It felt anticlimactic. By “original ending,” do you mean the one on the Official Bootleg DVD? That’s the version I bought, and I HATE that ending! I greatly prefer the S-Mart ending that they show when the movie is on television. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/10 "2005-02-04T15:43:59Z")
I’m not taking a dump–I own all three films in multiple editions on DVD, AND I saw all three in their first runs in theatres, so my fanboy cred is as good or better than anyone’s here. If this is merely a fanboy wank in which only enthusiasm is allowed, I’ll be quiet. But if you value an hoenest opinion, I think a new ED film, particularly if is it not directed by Sam Raimi, will only tarnish the memories of the original films. I don’t want there this to be **Evil Dead–The Phantom Menace**. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/11 "2005-02-04T15:49:15Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > By “original ending,” do you mean the one on the Official Bootleg DVD? That’s the version I bought, and I HATE that ending! I greatly prefer the S-Mart ending that they show when the movie is on television. See, I’m the opposite I think the S-mart ending makes no sense in the context of the story or the character. The ending where Ash miscounts the number of drops of potion, only to weake up and find that he slept past his own time into the aftermath of a nuclear holocaust reflects Ash’s nature as a half-assed fuck-up who survives as much through luck as through his own abilities. It’s a better ending artistically. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/12 "2005-02-04T15:51:14Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > I’m not taking a dump–I own all three films in multiple editions on DVD, AND I saw all three in their first runs in theatres, so my fanboy cred is as good or better than anyone’s here. If this is merely a fanboy wank in which only enthusiasm is allowed, I’ll be quiet. But if you value an hoenest opinion, I think a new ED film, particularly if is it not directed by Sam Raimi, will only tarnish the memories of the original films. I don’t want there this to be **Evil Dead–The Phantom Menace**. Oh, you didn’t read the linked story. It is apparently being directed by Raimi. There’s talk of him allowing a remake of the first two films by another director, though. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/13 "2005-02-04T19:50:07Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > There’s talk of him allowing a remake of the first two films by another director, though. I’m really not sure why anyone would consider this a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/14 "2005-02-04T19:59:50Z")
> [@ultrafilter](#): > > I’m really not sure why anyone would consider this a good idea. Ask Raimi. It’s his idea. Something about updating them for a modern audience, and with a real budget. Personally, I wouldn’t mind a remake combining the first two films - the first wasn’t very engaging; the second suffered from a lack of scope, since we only get the background in extremely glossed-over fashion. They deserve to be together. And hey, if they manage to find someone besides Brucey that can fill Ash’s Chainsaw-arm-bracket, that’ll make it easier for us to get sequels. ---
**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/15 "2005-02-04T20:11:56Z")
Oh, great. Uwe Boll’s Evil Dead 2. _shudder_ ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/16 "2005-02-04T20:22:19Z")
Groovy. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/17 "2005-02-04T20:26:26Z")
> [@slortar](#): > > Oh, great. Uwe Boll’s Evil Dead 2. _shudder_ Since Raimi would be picking the director for the remake, I very much doubt that. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/18 "2005-02-04T21:29:55Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > Personally, I wouldn’t mind a remake combining the first two films - the first wasn’t very engaging; the second suffered from a lack of scope, since we only get the background in extremely glossed-over fashion. They deserve to be together. > . The thing is it would just be rather redudent. Evil Dead 2 was more or less a remake and a sequel to the first, with a bigger budget.The only difference is that they decided to make it more cheeseball and dispense with the redshirt friends. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/19 "2005-02-04T22:00:30Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > The thing is it would just be rather redudent. Evil Dead 2 was more or less a remake and a sequel to the first, with a bigger budget.The only difference is that they decided to make it more cheeseball and dispense with the redshirt friends. Kinda, kinda not. The meat of Evil Dead was crammed into the first ten minutes of Evil Dead 2. Not much of a remake. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361/20 "2005-02-04T22:01:58Z")
The story wavers way to far from the story line. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-seas-were-as-blood-evil-dead-4/288361.md?page=2)