# And the teacher of the year is....

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 29, 2006, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518 "2006-07-29T05:43:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/1 "2006-07-29T05:43:21Z")

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[not this guy.](http://www.startribune.com/462/story/582288.html)

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> They were changing some of the channels when they found a live feed coming from the bathroom," where the Ostranders’ 13-year-old daughter and a 12-year-old house guest were brushing their teeth, the complaint said.

I don’t get it. I just can’t fathom what would possess someone to do something to this extent, when it would mean risking your entire career, your entire life. How can someone be leading such a normal-looking life on the outside, and yet be so completely and totally controlled by this addiction? Did no one suspect anything? His wife, co-workers, no one?

Setting up a camera in his own bathroom, and using his own daughter to bring friends over to spend the night so he could videotape them…sick, sick, sick. And quite frankly, I’m really concerned about the sicko’s daughter. I really really hope he kept his filthy hands off her.

Apparently, ‘kiddie sex offenders at the bottom of the prison totem pole’ is a myth, but in this whackjob’s case, I hope he spends the next 20 years in prison as the joint’s primary jism receptacle.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/2 "2006-07-29T06:14:23Z")

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You have it backward. The guy is a pedophile first and foremost. He’s devoted to his job because he needs that access to children. Peddoes tend to do rather well in jobs that give them easy access to children, whether it’s teacher, Catholic preist or boy scout leader – because they’re so very motivated.

This is not surprising at all. Though spying on his own family indicates he’s even more twisted than the “norm” of pedos. I think for some of the, incest taboos work.

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/3 "2006-07-31T01:51:22Z")

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Seems like he raised a big red flad when he repeatedly called one of his 9th grade students “sexy”. I’m sure THAT didn’t creep her out much.

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**Author:** ![footloose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@footloose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/footloose)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/4 "2006-07-31T07:39:19Z")

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My aunt taught 5th grade in the same school as this guy until she retired a couple of years ago; one of her students was his daughter. No one had ANY CLUE AT ALL that this was going on until he got busted.

How’s that for creepy?

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**Author:** ![footloose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@footloose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/footloose)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/5 "2006-07-31T07:39:54Z")

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My aunt taught 5th grade in the same school as this guy until she retired a couple of years ago; one of her students was his daughter. No one had ANY CLUE AT ALL that this was going on until he got busted.

How’s that for creepy?

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/6 "2006-07-31T07:41:57Z")

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From the same article

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> In an interview with police, Knowles wrote in the complaint, Ostrander repeatedly said that he’d “really messed up this time.”

Yes, indeed, that’s one way of putting it.

I really hope that some lenient judge doesn’t decide that since this is the asshole’s “first offence”, he should be given probation. He’s sick, sick, sick, but the time for treatment was before he did this shit.

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**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/7 "2006-07-31T13:35:21Z")

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'really messed up **this time’**

Bolding mine.

Am I the only person that finds this even creepier?

We need a ‘creeped out’ smilie.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/8 "2006-07-31T16:16:32Z")

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A former professor of mine was having trouble with his computer at work so he called in the IT department. They took it down to their offices to check it out and found a trove of child-porn images. On his work computer.

[Full story here.](http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/crimelaw/features/n_8815/)

And this is someone that definately knew better- a well-respected, tenured professor at a law school. It really maks you wonder what people are thinking when they engage in this type of behavior in such a way, and place, that just begs that they be discovered. Hiding a camera in your own daughter’s bathroom? And sending the feed to your tv in the bedroom? WTF?

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**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/9 "2006-07-31T21:09:36Z")

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> [@McNew](#):
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> A former professor of mine was having trouble with his computer at work so he called in the IT department. They took it down to their offices to check it out and found a trove of child-porn images. On his work computer.
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> [Full story here.](http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/crimelaw/features/n_8815/)
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> And this is someone that definately knew better- a well-respected, tenured professor at a law school. It really maks you wonder what people are thinking when they engage in this type of behavior in such a way, and place, that just begs that they be discovered. Hiding a camera in your own daughter’s bathroom? And sending the feed to your tv in the bedroom? WTF?

Jesus Christ.

That article just makes me sick – that guy’s colleagues apparently think that having his career destroyed is enough.

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**Author:** ![Wallet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e99b99/32.png) [@Wallet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallet)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/10 "2006-07-31T22:12:55Z")

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> [@McNew](#):
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> A former professor of mine was having trouble with his computer at work so he called in the IT department. They took it down to their offices to check it out and found a trove of child-porn images. On his work computer.
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> [Full story here.](http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/crimelaw/features/n_8815/)

I’ve googled, but can’t find any recent updates about this case. Did your professor ever serve any jail time for this crime? Did the IT workers who reported what they found on his pc and were subsequently fired win their whistleblower lawsuit?

Thanks for any info - it sickens me to think that this sick pervert got off scott-free!  
(he had over 100,000 twisted images, including babies being raped by adults and dogs! :eek: )

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/11 "2006-07-31T22:17:30Z")

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> [@DragonAsh](#):
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> 'really messed up **this time’**
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> Bolding mine.
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> Am I the only person that finds this even creepier?
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> We need a ‘creeped out’ smilie.

Yes, I did a double take and said “ **this** time?!?” 😕 :mad:

That right there should void out any possible “first offense” leniency. :mad:

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/12 "2006-08-01T12:47:51Z")

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> [@Wallet](#):
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> I’ve googled, but can’t find any recent updates about this case. Did your professor ever serve any jail time for this crime? Did the IT workers who reported what they found on his pc and were subsequently fired win their whistleblower lawsuit?
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> Thanks for any info - it sickens me to think that this sick pervert got off scott-free!  
> (he had over 100,000 twisted images, including babies being raped by adults and dogs! :eek: )

I don’t know the answers to either of your questions- I’ve googled a couple times myself over the years but never came up with anything. I graduated in '97 and this happened in '02, so everyone I knew at the time of my graduation had already left the school by that point.

I had kept in touch with him after my graduation because he was pretty good at getting internships for his Copyright Law Workshop students- he helped me when I was there, and after I graduated and was working I hired a couple of his students to intern for me. He invited me to speak at one of his Copyright Workshop Seminars as recently as the spring of '02, a few months before this all transpired. But for obvious reasons, we’ve lost touch.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/13 "2006-08-01T13:26:16Z")

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Looks like [Six months in jail and ten years probation](http://www.legaled.com/profsentenced.htm).

Sailboat

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/14 "2006-08-01T13:28:32Z")

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Oh, and apparently he was [disbarred](http://www.legaled.com/disbarred.htm).

Sailboat

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/15 "2006-08-01T13:32:37Z")

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And here is the Dean’s riveting defense of the school’s handling of the case.

[cowardly equivocation](http://nyls.edu/pages/1363.asp)

Sailboat

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/16 "2006-08-01T14:22:30Z")

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**Sailboat** - thanks for finding the updates. I had read the Dean’s response a while ago.

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**Author:** ![Wallet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e99b99/32.png) [@Wallet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallet)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-teacher-of-the-year-is/366518/17 "2006-08-01T22:02:48Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> Looks like [Six months in jail and ten years probation](http://www.legaled.com/profsentenced.htm).
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> Sailboat

Sailboat, thanks for finding that update. It’s good to know he received jail time and was disbarred - it’s just a shame he’s still continuing to receive his salary.
