# And the worst movie of all time is. . .

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**Created:** [November 10, 2001, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642 "2001-11-10T17:22:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![ozonebaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/eb8c5e/32.png) [@ozonebaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ozonebaby)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/81 "2001-11-24T17:22:20Z")

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Yeah that’s probably the reason no one mentioned them, Grace.

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**Author:** ![EandCDad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e274bd/32.png) [@EandCDad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EandCDad)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/82 "2001-11-24T17:44:56Z")

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The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover was a big pile of turkey droppings. Some of those Ed Burns movies are pretty bad. Do the Right Thing was a piece of junk and wildly overrated but I would agree that it isn’t the worst thing ever.

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**Author:** ![zber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c5a1d2/32.png) [@zber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zber)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/83 "2001-11-25T01:46:48Z")

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\*\* Shock Treatment\*\*… This was the sequel to The Rocky Horror Picture Show where Brad and Janet (who are played by different actors) appear on a game show but get sucked into some scheme. This is by far the worst use of film – ever.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/84 "2001-11-25T04:20:27Z")

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People, I think we have forgotten about our good friend Peter Jackson’s earlier work (yes, same guy that directed _Lord of the Rings_)

_Meet the Feebles_  
_Dead Alive_  
_Bad Taste_

The three worst movies of all time, IMO. Altough _Dead Alive_ does take the title of the bloodiest film of all time, thanks to a little lawn-mower scene 🙂

(I did like _The Frighteners_, though, ‘cause Michael J. Fox is da’ man!)

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**Author:** ![Etaoin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c2a13f/32.png) [@Etaoin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Etaoin)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/85 "2001-11-25T06:28:43Z")

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Did you know — did you care — that Heston’s Omega Man from '71 or so was a remake? I saw the original on a late late show years and years ago after having seen Heston’s version. It was a Vincent Price made-in-Italy or Spain black-and-white. What a stinker! He takes a new car to collect bodies — a station wagon, because, he narrates, “I didn’t need an ambulance, I needed a hearse.”

Too bad every third scene it’s a sedan.

Bad editing. Worse dialog. It’s a so-bad-it’s-a gut-busting-funny flick.

De Mille’s Ten Commandments is another one. The mid-50s epic is creakily funny now, but it was a remake of a silent version I rented on video. Blechhhh. No wonder he had to do it again. He had to repair his reputation. Interesting two-color scene in it, though; might have been Technicolor stretching its legs. Many of the shots in the second version are duplicates of shots in the first. He did it before that Psycho clone, and he did it to himself.

Gotta agree, Plan 9 is the absolutest worstest. It’s even worser than Birth of a Nation, and that’s saying plenty. Emote THIS, D.W. Griffith.

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**Author:** ![DPWhite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d26b3c/32.png) [@DPWhite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPWhite)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/86 "2001-11-25T07:01:24Z")

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The original Rocky is a classic great boxing movie. Anyone who even says it is bad knows nothing. And having read the thread, you guys don’t get out much.

I’ve seen that Plan 9 from Outer Space is listed by a few folks, and it is pretty bad.

However… The Horror at Party Beach is even worse. Plan 9 is just incoherent weirdness. Horror is a straightforward plot with every rotton cliche and plot device imaginable.

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**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/87 "2001-11-25T07:15:05Z")

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HAHAHAHAHAHA… [bitter laughter fills the night air]

Fools… you have not seen a movie more horrible than “The PageMaster”! I have yet to hear word in ANY language filthy and evil enough to describe that… thing. No movie, not even “Attack of the Killer Tomatoes” even comes close to equaling the pure AWFULNESS of that wretched excuse for a film.

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**Author:** ![Bossk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@Bossk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bossk)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/88 "2001-11-25T08:45:13Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Etaoin \*  
> \*\*Did you know — did you care — that Heston’s Omega Man from '71 or so was a remake? I saw the original on a late late show years and years ago after having seen Heston’s version. It was a Vincent Price made-in-Italy or Spain black-and-white. What a stinker! He takes a new car to collect bodies — a station wagon, because, he narrates, “I didn’t need an ambulance, I needed a hearse.” \*\*

That would be _The Last Man on Earth_ (1964). Yep, nobody makes atrociously bad horror movies like the Italians. Not even the Americans. And THAT’S saying something.

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> \*\*Gotta agree, Plan 9 is the absolutest worstest. It’s even worser than Birth of a Nation, and that’s saying plenty. Emote THIS, D.W. Griffith. \*\*

Gimme a friggin’ break. Not even the critics who despise its racial hatred message think that it’s a bad film. It was groundbreaking on so many levels, even more so than _Citizen Kane_.

Even DW himself was flabbergasted by everyone calling him and his film a bigoted effort. While the film was racist, I believe DW wasn’t. He tried to clear his name with his next film, _Intolerance_. Of course, that one was an utter box office failure.

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**Author:** ![meyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@meyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meyer)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/89 "2001-11-25T12:14:09Z")

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**Starship Troopers**

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - this movie was so illogical and stupid it made me wish I had just stared at the wall for two hours instead. Also, nothing is resolved at the end, and a psychic Doogie Houser shows up to tell us that the giant bugs from outer space are afraid. Great! Exuse me while I go vomit.

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/90 "2001-11-25T16:38:38Z")

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“Zardoz” was incomprehensible.

I think my brain went into automatic shutdown mode after Sean Connery appeared, in an extraterrestrial… diaper. :eek:

Nothing else registered after the sheer ugliness after that image!

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**Author:** ![Bossk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@Bossk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bossk)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/91 "2001-11-25T20:03:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by meyer \*  
> \*\ ***Starship Troopers**
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> I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - this movie was so illogical and stupid it made me wish I had just stared at the wall for two hours instead. Also, nothing is resolved at the end, and a psychic Doogie Houser shows up to tell us that the giant bugs from outer space are afraid. Great! Exuse me while I go vomit. \*\*

Did anyone else think that if the Nazis had won World War II, _Starship Troopers_ would be their recruitment film?

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**Author:** ![Journeyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/779978/32.png) [@Journeyman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Journeyman)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/92 "2001-11-25T20:39:33Z")

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I maintain that Starship Troopers was a joke. Literally. Verhoven may not have _intended_ it that way, but the movie made me laugh.

1. An asteroid crashes into a major city, wiping it off the face of the planet… with absolutely no ill effects anywhere else on earth.
2. This asteroid was supposedly aimed at said city from halfway across the galaxy… and lands bang on target.
3. Humanity has built a ring around the _moon_ for planetary defense. Brilliant.
4. Humans invade a planet full of carnivorous bugs the size of trucks with thousands of riflemen. No tanks, no orbital bombardment, no heavier weapons (with one very silly exception, see below).
5. Troopers use nuclear weapons on several Bugs of Unusual Size and then charge into the freshly radiated area. Hope their state-provided insurance covers Leukemia(sp?).
6. Troopers run in abject terror after seeing two men die.
7. Assault rifles which get more and more destructive with every battle. By the end, three men shred dozens of the same bugs entire squads could barely scratch at the beginning.
8. and my very favorite… amongst the most atrocious plot devices in cinema history… (drumroll please)  
An infantry unit secures an alien world and celebrates by having a high school dance, just so a corporal can hook up with his squad leader in the most gratuitous fashion possible (without getting an X rating, of course)

Am I the only person who thought this movie was funny?

[tangent]  
Also, I feel it is my duty to urge anyone who hasn’t read the very excellent book Starship Troopers to do so. Thank you.  
[tangent]

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**Author:** ![Etaoin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c2a13f/32.png) [@Etaoin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Etaoin)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2001, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/93 "2001-11-25T23:21:06Z")

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Starship Troopers is worse even than Speed, and Speed is awful. A GM “New Look” diesel bus with a gas tank, and no one unplugs the runaway electric train. Awful, awful, awful.

But Starship Troopers took a classic Heinlein and turned it into a compost heap. Here are all those “troopers” who try to kill insects with rifles. I could have wiped out the planet with a can of Raid.

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**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2001, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/94 "2001-11-26T05:05:43Z")

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**Battlefield Earth**  
**Bats**  
**The Omega Code** _wait a second, that wasn’t a real movie…_  
**Wild Wild West** … stupid movie almost ruined Will Smith’s career…  
That’s all I can think of now…

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**Author:** ![rdky2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@rdky2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rdky2000)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2001, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/95 "2001-11-26T17:56:44Z")

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Hi All! I would have to agree,Mission:Impossible and Wild Wild West were not as god as they should have been,but far  
worse I think were My Favorite Martian and Josie and the Pussycats,but I have to put my money on the The Blob!!!

Rich from Seattle

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**Author:** ![curious\_george](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b487fb/32.png) [@curious\_george](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curious_george)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2001, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/96 "2001-11-26T21:32:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Dewey Cheatem Undhow \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by curious george \*  
> > \*\*The Rocky series. Traffic. Heat. Several Travolta movies: Battlefield Earth, Phenomenon, Pulp Fiction.  
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> You know, I think the Oscars get it wrong on many occasions, but I have a hard time pegging a Best-Picture Oscar winning (Rocky) or nominated (Traffic) film as one of the “worst movies of all time.” They may not be the best films of all time – or even the best films of that particular year – but they generally don’t totally suck, either.
> 
> I’m with you on the later Rocky movies, though. After the second film, they just get worse and worse.
> 
> And I’m with **tracer** in being shocked at your inclusion of Pulp Fiction. \*\*

The truly awful movies are low profiles ones I didn’t see. When I respond to a list like this, I think of the movies that I went to that were supposed to be good, but I didn’t like. Such as Traffic, Heat, and Pulp Fiction.

I think Star Wars was mentioned on this list, one of the most successful films ever.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2001, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/97 "2001-11-26T22:07:34Z")

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I walked out of AI - I found it nauseating. Other bad movies… hmmm. I saw Americas Sweethearts in the theatre - awful. I kind of enjoyed the goofiness of Starship Poopers though - you just had to turn your brain off and watch the slime fly. It reminded me of some of the old Arnie movies like Commando where our hero runs acros a field firing his machine gun at a load of commies (or something) hidden in the trees on the perimeter and takes them all out, they obviously cannot hit Arnie, for all of his beef.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2001, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/98 "2001-11-26T22:47:49Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Journeyman \*  
> \*\*I maintain that Starship Troopers was a joke. Literally. Verhoven may not have _intended_ it that way, but the movie made me laugh.
> 
> 1. An asteroid crashes into a major city, wiping it off the face of the planet… with absolutely no ill effects anywhere else on earth.
> 2. This asteroid was supposedly aimed at said city from halfway across the galaxy… and lands bang on target.
> 3. Humanity has built a ring around the _moon_ for planetary defense. Brilliant.
> 4. Humans invade a planet full of carnivorous bugs the size of trucks with thousands of riflemen. No tanks, no orbital bombardment, no heavier weapons (with one very silly exception, see below).
> 5. Troopers use nuclear weapons on several Bugs of Unusual Size and then charge into the freshly radiated area. Hope their state-provided insurance covers Leukemia(sp?).
> 6. Troopers run in abject terror after seeing two men die.
> 7. Assault rifles which get more and more destructive with every battle. By the end, three men shred dozens of the same bugs entire squads could barely scratch at the beginning.
> 8. and my very favorite… amongst the most atrocious plot devices in cinema history… (drumroll please)  
> An infantry unit secures an alien world and celebrates by having a high school dance, just so a corporal can hook up with his squad leader in the most gratuitous fashion possible (without getting an X rating, of course)  
> \*\*

1. So far in the future that…everybody walks! (“Hmmm, maybe some jeeps next time Mr. Rico.”

2. Pack the starships in soooper close so they can run into each other.

3. Doogie Howser, SS

4. Hand grenades the size of malt liquor bottles

5. Bad “Zulu” imitation by the bugs.

6. Armor that couldn’t even protect the soldiers from their own weapons at extreme range.

7. Gee, maybe its just me, but wasn’t Rico supposed to be just a little bit latino? Myabe I read to much into the name.

I liked the computer animated cartoon series (_ROughnecks_) though…it had its logic flaws too, but nowhere near as egragarious and I didn’t pay to watch it.)

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**Author:** ![mancunian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mancunian/32/12244_2.png) [@mancunian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mancunian)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2001, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-is/92642/99 "2001-11-26T23:32:33Z")

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I’ve just had a quick glance through this thread, but I can’t see this anywhere **COYOTE UGLY!**. God, this is not just bad, I actually felt myself blushing while watching this (and I was there was only me and my girlfriend watching). Of course it goes without saying, she absolutely loved it. [sub]chickflick, chickflick[/sub]😃

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