# And then there was Justin. John Lodge of the Moody Blues dies **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [October 10, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852 "2025-10-10T17:32:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![2\_More\_Bits](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2_more_bits/32/4148_2.png) [@2\_More\_Bits](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2_More_Bits)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/1 "2025-10-10T17:32:16Z")
John Lodge, bassist/ singer/ songwriter for the Moody Blues has died. That leaves Justin Hayward the only surviving member. [NYT gift link](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/10/arts/music/john-lodge-dead-moody-blues.html?unlocked_article_code=1.sU8.LM6A.6iUXl8exJH9V&smid=url-share) One of his songs: [https://youtu.be/N\_J-hmyAS6c?si=5T\_OyHFlQ9PRiRwM](https://youtu.be/N_J-hmyAS6c?si=5T_OyHFlQ9PRiRwM) ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/2 "2025-10-10T17:42:43Z")
The Moody Blues are the band I’ve seen live most, before I was 21. My brother was obsessed. They really made some wonderful music together. ---
**Author:** ![2\_More\_Bits](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2_more_bits/32/4148_2.png) [@2\_More\_Bits](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2_More_Bits)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/3 "2025-10-10T17:50:52Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > The Moody Blues are the band I’ve seen live most Me too. I was the obsessed one ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/4 "2025-10-10T19:30:57Z")
I have fond memories of buying and enjoying Lodge & Hayward’s “Blue Jays” album that came out in '75. Still have it, in fact. mmm ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/5 "2025-10-10T20:03:18Z")
RIP 😔 The Moodies music has been a part of my life for a long time and John was an indispensable part of it. My first concert experience was the Question Of Balance tour in '71 and I saw John onstage with them several times after that. Thanks for the music & memories. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/6 "2025-10-10T20:21:38Z")
Ride that see-saw to the great beyond, John. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eRQ3MwA4Nws/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-CYAC0AWKAgwIABABGEcgXihlMA8=&rs=AOn4CLCbXTOZ9pujeN_Cm1Vh1MMNWaspVQ "NEW 📀 Ride My See Saw - Moody Blues {Stereo} 1968") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRQ3MwA4Nws) ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/7 "2025-10-10T20:35:57Z")
That was one of my few 45s 🙂 I looked up the lyrics and they say: “School taught one and one is two But by now, that answer just ain’t two.” Rhyming two with two. I thought for sure it was “just ain’t _true_”, til I watched again. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/8 "2025-10-10T20:37:51Z")
He was about to embark on a tour starting in December ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/9 "2025-10-10T21:03:59Z")
I hope it’s okay to copy and paste what his family posted on Facebook: > [@](#): > > Announcement from John’s Family > > It is with the deepest sadness that we have to announce that John Lodge, our darling husband, father, grandfather, father-in-law and brother has been suddenly and unexpectedly taken from us. As anyone who knew this massive hearted man knows, it was his enduring love of his wife, Kirsten, and his family, that was the most important thing to him, followed by his passion for music, and his faith. > > He was never happier than being on stage - he was ‘Just a ‘Singer in a Rock and Roll Band’ and he adored performing with his band and son-in-law, Jon (vocalist with YES), and being able to continue sharing this music with his fans. It gave him even more joy to be able to work with his daughter Emily and son Kristian and spend time watching his grandson John-Henry play football and dream of him playing for Birmingham City one day! > > John peacefully slipped away surrounded by his loved-ones and the sounds of The Everly Brothers and Buddy Holly. We will forever miss his love, smile, kindness, and his absolute and never-ending support. We are heartbroken, but will walk forwards into peace surrounded by the love he had for each of us. As John would always say at the end of the show, thank you for keeping the faith. > > Please understand that we are not making any further comments, however we would like to leave you with John’s song ’Whispering Angels’ whilst we take a moment to reflect on this incredible man who touched so many lives.” > > [Moody Blues](https://www.facebook.com/MoodyBlues? __cft__ %5B0%5D=AZV319VV0AT8oZnmNtX33f4Nv70alFmHcxX1mJX_lIE4CVYo0XZaquRqtW_-09E7NwMbgets7pd99_3emJtp-4P1yrWD4aQ_2fXYD3UkTPjaTtF3HV3arEYX0B1uxE_v9SU4XAe3kA5AtEdiRrrtPJpAv2WaFBW4kuV1Ouaq2TEUHiSHzBY3Ijh7IibB-1QvvKE& __tn__ =-%5DK-R) > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XErh5-eeoIU](https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DXErh5-eeoIU%26fbclid%3DIwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAYnJpZBExb1FRN1R4SVJwbDF6TThvMgEeUCbHJs2l5gqpURa1jF1g-7oMGW_-oX6UNbTy8_vPDwLISCjPCE0fbsDGK0I_aem_crJSqHsijG6ytsO4YJhRQA&h=AT1fPwhvu6ldX4GJMnOuxXm7LNsqs20jvKG5oqMyohXnN1jKYlKCRQrbeLQL1YF19pk0iHjxKphpa5HV54AGmXrV1mikyyq0yr0r6_e7FqnIrQcvYK1rRWrIRuCta0L7U1BMXcyBityt4NPC4boW1Fjeelh9zQ& __tn__ =-UK-R&c%5B0%5D=AT2blZsMNa85HesyiL9M4WBjgT_7NIkGHGzPgVnrDjyXlAwLzmV9sP8X3XktRV9TLwivAX7OVwb9FuTE3s9pKZnrKofRgHOftxDFRjOwRpRyaPB3b9MAUo4uNcfsaB41rhc_m9j4NOeh_rK9frtVh6iD8udeF1orJm-3hEdG9mes0aG2fpPxoDciysI_FPfajGDbJrzEVIrpC-zOSPH5V1badA) ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/10 "2025-10-10T22:24:27Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I looked up the lyrics and they say: “School taught one and one is two > But by now, that answer just ain’t two.” > > Rhyming two with two. I thought for sure it was “just ain’t _true_”, til I watched again. It **isn’t**? 🤨 Sounds like “wave’s chicane” all over again from ELO’s I Can’t Get It Out Of My Head (a pic however confirms that Jeff Lynne’s rough draft notes indeed have it as “Walking on a wave, she came”-which note unlike the mondegreen at least _rhymes_). Justin himself has been guilty of that too, from Question: _I’m looking for someone to change my life_ _I’m looking for a miracle in my life_ A release from my strife? :shrug: He was indeed scheduled for some dates in Ohio, sigh… [Annnd _of course_ the ELO song randomly plays off of my daily playlist here…] ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/11 "2025-10-10T22:29:45Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > he adored performing with his band and son-in-law, Jon (vocalist with YES) This bit confused me for a moment – Jon Anderson, who was Yes’s vocalist for close to 40 years, was Lodge’s contemporary. And, then, I remembered that the _current_ singer for Yes is also named [Jon (Davison)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Davison); Wikipedia indicates that Davison is, in fact, Lodge’s son-in-law. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/12 "2025-10-10T23:58:11Z")
Isn’t life strange? A turn of the page. ---
**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/13 "2025-10-11T02:11:51Z")
RIP John Lodge ---
**Author:** ![f.coli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eada6e/32.png) [@f.coli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/f.coli)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/14 "2025-10-11T16:32:41Z")
Hard to believe that the Moody Blues were not inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame until 2018 - over 50 years after _Days of Future Passed_ was released. The Hall should be embarrassed. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/15 "2025-10-12T01:32:26Z")
> [@f.coli](#): > > Hard to believe that the Moody Blues were not inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame until 2018 - over 50 years after _Days of Future Passed_ was released. The RaRHoF appeared to have a long-standing bias against progressive rock and related bands; fans of those bands believed that this was largely due to the personal distaste for the genre held by Jann Wenner (_Rolling Stone_ founder and key force behind the HoF). The Moodies, Genesis, Yes, Rush, and ELO were all arguably way overdue for recognition, but the dam broke around 2010, when Genesis was voted in, and the rest all got in over the succeeding few years. Heck, the Moodies weren’t even _nominated_ until 2018! ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/16 "2025-10-12T02:07:43Z")
> [@2\_More\_Bits](#): > > That leaves Justin Hayward the only surviving member. Does Patrick Moraz not get at least partial credit? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/17 "2025-10-12T03:00:18Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The Moodies, Genesis, Yes, Rush, and ELO were all arguably way overdue for recognition, but the dam broke around 2010, when Genesis was voted in, and the rest all got in over the succeeding few years. Heck, the Moodies weren’t even _nominated_ until 2018! And Jethro Tull & King Crimson are still on the outside looking in. ---
**Author:** ![2\_More\_Bits](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2_more_bits/32/4148_2.png) [@2\_More\_Bits](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2_More_Bits)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/18 "2025-10-12T03:01:05Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > Does Patrick Moraz not get at least partial credit? That’s a complicated story. (But technically you are correct) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/19 "2025-10-12T03:09:04Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > And Jethro Tull & King Crimson are still on the outside looking in. And Emerson, Lake & Palmer, for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852/20 "2025-10-12T04:14:55Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > on the outside looking in. Ha! I came here to say “and Timothy Leary’s still dead.” That’s the song I most associate with John Lodge, for some reason. (He’s memorable in the video for this.) Also, House of Four Doors. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dp29XacCe8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dp29XacCe8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-then-there-was-justin-john-lodge-of-the-moody-blues-dies/1023852.md?page=2)