# And there are idiots in California too who believe that Jews steal organs...

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**Created:** [January 19, 2005, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551 "2005-01-19T16:18:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/1 "2005-01-19T16:18:12Z")

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Based on my [previous thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=293372).

(For those who don’t want to read through three pages of the previous thread and revisit the ugliness there, the thread was about an Iranian TV special that portrayed Jews in Israel stealing eyeballs and other organs from Palestinian children).

Lest you think that that madness is confined to Iran or the Arab/Muslim world at large, I present to you last week’s Bus 19 exhibit in Berkeley, California.

In short, the Bus 19 exhibit is a bus that was destroyed by a suicide bomber in Israel. The bombed-out remains of the bus now tour as an “exhibit” on terrorism.

When it arrived in Berkeley, California, a number of protesters showed up, eschewing the pro-Palestinian position. Among the protesters were children holding up signs showing mutilated corpses and text stating “Organ Theives.” Somehow, I don’t think they were referring to “Invasion of the Body Snatchers.”

Sigh. The madness comes to the U.S. ☹

[Pictures of the event](http://www.zombietime.com/bus_19_berkeley/).

Note: The pictures with the signs I was referring to are about halfway down the page. The pictures on the signs to me seemed far enough away to not really be too gory, but the more sensitive may have trouble with the pics.

Zev Steinhardt

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/2 "2005-01-19T16:35:14Z")

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FRom **Zev** ’s link:

> [@](#):
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> Palestinian protesters: One, three, five, seven, all our martyrs go to heaven!  
> Two, four, six, eight, we are martyrs, we can’t wait!  
> One, three, five, seven, all our martyrs go to heaven!  
> One, three, five, seven, all our martyrs go to heaven!  
> Two, four, six, eight, we are martyrs, we can’t wait!  
> Two, four, six, eight, we are martyrs, we can’t wait!  
> One, three, five, seven, all our martyrs go to heaven!

\<sigh\> How long before our Palestinian guests start becoming _shahids_ here in the US?

It was bad enough when they sang and danced on 9/11 in their land, but this behavior on US soil is just plain repugnant.

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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/3 "2005-01-19T16:40:21Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> \<sigh\> How long before our Palestinian guests start becoming _shahids_ here in the US?

Forgive the ignorance, but what are _shahids_?

Zev Steinhardt

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/4 "2005-01-19T16:44:17Z")

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> [@zev\_steinhardt](#):
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> Forgive the ignorance, but what are _shahids_?
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> Zev Steinhardt

It’s the Arabic word for “martyr,” and it’s how the Arabs refer to anyone killed in conflict with Israel or America, and to suicide bombers in particular.

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**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/5 "2005-01-19T16:49:21Z")

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Jews steal organs?

Where the hell is my cut, then?! :mad:

_Is half Jewish_

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**Author:** ![Exgineer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Exgineer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exgineer)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/6 "2005-01-19T16:51:49Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> FRom **Zev** ’s link:
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> \<sigh\> How long before our Palestinian guests start becoming _shahids_ here in the US?

Given that those pictures could have been taken in Ramallah, I’d say not very long.

Damned inconsiderate Jews, wanting to live and all.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/7 "2005-01-19T16:54:33Z")

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> [@Incubus](#):
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> Jews steal organs?
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> Where the hell is my cut, then?! :mad:
> 
> _Is half Jewish_

You only get your “cut” if you’ve donated to the international Jewish foreskin bank.

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/8 "2005-01-19T17:21:47Z")

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I’ll have to ask my wife if she’s stolen any organs. She does like to borrow one of mine.

Seriously though, what the fuck is Berkeley coming to? A few months ago some people hung a huge banner over I-80 at University proclaiming, “MARRIAGE = MAN + WOMAN”. Now we have people advocating terrorism in public. This isn’t your parents’ Berkeley anymore.

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**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/9 "2005-01-19T17:23:25Z")

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> [@zev\_steinhardt](#):
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> Sigh. The madness comes to the U.S. ☹

I converted to Judaism specifically to get in on the organ stealing. Oh, and to control the banks. It comes in handy, you know.

Sadly this is [not new madness](http://www.livejournal.com/community/weirdjews/156677.html) . If’n you are looking for a SF area protest buddy, you should drop me a line.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/10 "2005-01-19T17:23:52Z")

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> [@Incubus](#):
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> Jews steal organs?

And Buddhists swipe pianos…

::d&r::

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/11 "2005-01-19T17:31:07Z")

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> [@zev\_steinhardt](#):
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> When it arrived in Berkeley, California, a number of protesters showed up, **eschewing** the pro-Palestinian position.

[nitpick]

I suspect that “eschew” is not the verb you’re looking for here.

From the _Oxford English Dictionary_:

[quote]  
\*\*eschew, _v_[sup]1[/sup]

1.\*\* _trans._ \*\*To avoid, shun.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/12 "2005-01-19T17:33:17Z")

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Damn. Hit submit too soon.

> [@zev\_steinhardt](#):
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> When it arrived in Berkeley, California, a number of protesters showed up, **eschewing** the pro-Palestinian position.

[nitpick]

I suspect that “eschew” is not the verb you’re looking for here.

From the _Oxford English Dictionary_:

> [@](#):
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> \*\*eschew, _v_[sup]1[/sup]
> 
> 1.\*\* _trans._ \*\*To avoid, shun.
> 
> a. To avoid, keep clear of, escape (a danger or inconvenience).
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> b. To ‘fight shy of’, avoid (a place); to stand aloof from (a person).\*\* _obs._\*\*
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> c. To abstain carefully from, avoid, shun (an action, a course of conduct, an indulgence, an article of food or drink, etc.).\*\*

[/nitpick]

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/13 "2005-01-19T17:33:34Z")

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Probably looking for “espousing”

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/14 "2005-01-19T17:43:38Z")

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> [@Maeglin](#):
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> You only get your “cut” if you’ve donated to the international Jewish foreskin bank.

Retrieving an ancient Al Franken joke from the Memory Bank…  
“He only took tips.”

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/15 "2005-01-19T17:46:03Z")

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Espousing? Hey, that’s how I met my wife.

“The Final Victory Is Ours!”??? Victory, Solution, whatever. Reeks all the same.

Btw, loved the _shofar_!

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/16 "2005-01-19T19:22:57Z")

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> [@zev\_steinhardt](#):
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> Sigh. The madness comes to the U.S. ☹
> 
> [Pictures of the event](http://www.zombietime.com/bus_19_berkeley/).
> 
> Note: The pictures with the signs I was referring to are about halfway down the page. The pictures on the signs to me seemed far enough away to not really be too gory, but the more sensitive may have trouble with the pics.
> 
> Zev Steinhardt

The madness extends to my place too. At first glance, the last photo in this link appeared to me to suggest an Israeli supporter flashing his penis to taunt the Palistinian supporters :smack:

If I must explain, I once read a book back in the late 60’s that suggested Jewish men where very sexually adept at pleasing their partners. My own anecdotal favourable experience as a young man with a Jewish woman did nothing to dispel this impression 😃

On a more serious note, I’m disturbed by what appears to be another example of a shameless use of children by Palistinian adults to “further” their cause. I can’t think of any other ethnic faction that uses their children so.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/17 "2005-01-19T19:32:31Z")

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> [@zev\_steinhardt](#):
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> [Pictures of the event](http://www.zombietime.com/bus_19_berkeley/).

What’s with the guy proclaiming that he’s had a successful sexual reassignment surgery?

😉

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/18 "2005-01-19T20:28:41Z")

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Excuse me, but FUCK those parents. Is that the way to raise your child? Learn them how to hate other people and let your kids walk around with signs like that?  
Beats a bed-time story, huh.  
I hope the children had lovely dreams. ☹

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/19 "2005-01-19T21:56:55Z")

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> [@zev\_steinhardt](#):
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> Among the protesters were children holding up signs showing mutilated corpses and text stating “Organ Theives.” Somehow, I don’t think they were referring to “Invasion of the Body Snatchers.”

Maybe they were thinking of [The Great Boston Organ](http://www.mttlg.net/boston/musichallw/musichall200206080040w.jpg), now in Methuen (probably due to foul play).  
Always a great time to be had in Berkeley.

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**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-are-idiots-in-california-too-who-believe-that-jews-steal-organs/285551/20 "2005-01-19T23:22:32Z")

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I don’t know the author of this quote but IIRC it went “We will have peace when the Palistinians love their children as much as they hate us.”

We have homegrown hate like that; klan children at rallies, Fred Phelps children with “fag sin” signs. The real evil is ingrained, the parents actually think they are doing the right thing by teaching their children to hate.

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