# And There It Is: Gunman was regular at Pulse **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 14, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312 "2016-06-14T01:43:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![jasnooks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f4b2a3/32.png) [@jasnooks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasnooks)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/21 "2016-06-14T09:41:37Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Ultimately, if you are taught to hate what you are and have no way of changing that, you are going to be fucked-up in many ways. Tragically some of those ways will be murderous. Yep ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/22 "2016-06-14T10:37:09Z")
Of course it could have been a false fag attack. Too soon? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/23 "2016-06-14T10:53:38Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > OMG! How on Earth will “The Donald” spin this? Last I heard, the orange stain was spinning that the deceased assailant was an immigrant. Funny thing, though; Trump and the killer were born in the same town. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/24 "2016-06-14T11:06:04Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > Too soon? Never. 😉 Good one. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/25 "2016-06-14T11:15:16Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > OMG! How on Earth will “The Donald” spin this? “A gay Muslim Democrat just murdered fifty people.” ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/26 "2016-06-14T11:27:31Z")
Well actually, I’m pretty sure Trump thinks Obama is somehow involved. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/27 "2016-06-14T11:46:14Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > Of course it could have been a false fag attack. > > Too soon? Not as “too soon” as this: > [@Little\_Pig](#): > > This is the best gift we’ve been given in a long … Long … Time… BwaHaaHaahaa! :eek: Dude, _seriously_? 😕 Save us from such “gifts”… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/28 "2016-06-14T13:46:09Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > Yeah, when his father described (so soon on Sunday) the reaction his son had had to seeing two guys kissing in public, I immediately thought, “the lady doth protest too much.” At least in front of his father, who appears to be quite the homophobe himself, one may take it from there to see what may have caused the man to snap like he did. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/29 "2016-06-14T15:41:26Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > . . . that he was apparently a mean drunk . . . Some Muslim. ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nauplius/32/51_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/30 "2016-06-14T16:07:44Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > This is the best gift we’ve been given in a long … Long … Time… BwaHaaHaahaa! Fuck off, you troll. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/31 "2016-06-14T16:09:48Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Definitely greatly reduces the odds of ISIS being directly and materially involved if true, IMO. > > Come to think of it, I wonder if they’ll backpedal on claiming this dude now… I don’t see why they would backpedal, he hated gays it just turns out he hated himself for being gay as well. It’s just all unbelievably tragic. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/32 "2016-06-14T17:27:42Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > This is the best gift we’ve been given in a long … Long … Time… BwaHaaHaahaa! I know right. Thank God all those people died and got injured just so we can find out some random nobody was secretly gay. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/33 "2016-06-14T18:10:05Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > OMG! How on Earth will “The Donald” spin this? “Thanks, Obama !” (paraphrased, but there’s the gist of it) ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/34 "2016-06-14T22:05:59Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > Thanks. Damn. I forgot the winky smilie. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/35 "2016-06-14T23:15:46Z")
He was probably very disappointed to find 72 FEMALE virgins waiting for him in paradise. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emtar_KronJonDerSohn)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/36 "2016-06-14T23:34:21Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > “A gay Muslim Democrat just murdered fifty people.” > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Well actually, I’m pretty sure Trump thinks Obama is somehow involved. I’m pretty sure “gay Muslim democrat” is one of Obama’s nicer nicknames among Trump supporters. ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/37 "2016-06-14T23:40:43Z")
I saw on the news that he was going there to scope the club , this is just what I thought . He was getting the layout of the club and the feel of the people . It was reported on TV that he kept to himself . ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/38 "2016-06-14T23:46:48Z")
Was his secondary plan to attack Grinder? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/39 "2016-06-14T23:58:27Z")
> [@purplehearingaid](#): > > I saw on the news that he was going there to scope the club , this is just what I thought . He was getting the layout of the club and the feel of the people . It was reported on TV that he kept to himself . I heard it on the news that he had visited the club twice a month for three years and mingled with the crowd in a very friendly manner. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312/40 "2016-06-15T00:04:23Z")
The horrific persecution of LGBT people in Muslim, Christian and almost every other society until quite recently causes some LGBT people to become self-loathing psychopaths. I guess I’m not seeing any gloating angle here. What difference does this make to any of the issues at stake here? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-there-it-is-gunman-was-regular-at-pulse/757312.md?page=3)