# And this is one reason why Vigilante's are a bad idea

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 6, 2004, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852 "2004-10-06T15:01:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/1 "2004-10-06T15:01:04Z")

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[Family living in terror because of rumors of parolee living with them](http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1129944.html?menu=news.quirkies)

For Og’s sake! This is right up there with those idiots who attacked a pediatrician’s practice because they reasoned pediatrician = pedophile.

I don’t even care if it turns out the rumor is correct and Carr is indeed staying there. Where the fuck do you get off threatening innocent families for no good cause. Fucking Imbeciles.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/2 "2004-10-06T15:09:21Z")

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Apologies for the attack of the random apostrophe. I was looking over my right shoulder, and the damn thing must have jumped over my left shoulder.

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/3 "2004-10-06T15:18:26Z")

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The link’s not working for me. What’s going on where?

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/4 "2004-10-06T15:20:20Z")

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> [@Sublight](#):
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> The link’s not working for me. What’s going on where?

dunno what happened there

[fixed link](http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1129956.html?menu=)

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/5 "2004-10-06T15:21:04Z")

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Cite?

Er, better cite? The link doesn’t work for me.

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/6 "2004-10-06T15:22:13Z")

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Ah, found it.

[http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm\_1129956.html?menu=news.weirdworld.sexlife](http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1129956.html?menu=news.weirdworld.sexlife)

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/7 "2004-10-06T15:22:16Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Cite?
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> Er, better cite? The link doesn’t work for me.

Nevermind.

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**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/8 "2004-10-06T17:19:12Z")

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Can’t be that hard to provide a [link](http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1130090.html?menu=) to the story.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/9 "2004-10-06T17:35:57Z")

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Who the hell is Maxine Carr?

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/10 "2004-10-06T17:51:45Z")

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> [@The Long Road](#):
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> Can’t be that hard to provide a [link](http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1130090.html?menu=) to the story.

Apparently it can, and thanks for providing one that actually worked for me.

Maxine Carr is the “former girlfriend of Soham killer Ian Huntley.”

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/11 "2004-10-06T17:59:54Z")

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> [@neuroman](#):
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> Apparently it can, and thanks for providing one that actually worked for me.
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> Maxine Carr is the “former girlfriend of Soham killer Ian Huntley.”

Who the hell is Soham killer Ian Huntley?

If he’s a serial killer, we can’t be expected to keep track of him, the US has too many of its own. Armies of em.

In fact, I expect to see somebody publish a Cannibal’s Cookbook & a bottled Long Pork Sauce just to cater to the US market.

For market branding we could entitle the book “To Serve Man”.

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**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/12 "2004-10-06T18:02:22Z")

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Ian Huntley was a school janitor who killed two young girls. Maxine Carr was his girlfriend. She initially provided him with an alibi.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/13 "2004-10-06T18:03:10Z")

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> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#):
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> For market branding we could entitle the book “To Serve Man”.

I’m trying to work a Simpsons joke in here, but not having any luck.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/14 "2004-10-06T18:11:30Z")

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This is being seen everywhere I guess. It’s really unfortunate. In the Bay Area in California, we see this all the time. Someone does a heinous crime, serves their time, and is released only to be run out of city, and towns and eventually ends up in the middle of the country living in a shack hiding from locals and the press.

Usually it’s for sex-based offenses here since they must register upon release and it is unfortunately public information. If we are going to allow locals to trample all over former felons who are released, why release them at all?

The ridiculousness if the situation came to light for me when they released Carey Verse. Local communities picketed and made the guy’s life hell. He has been treated, was incarcerated for many years and was chemically sterilized. They interviewed some guy who said that he was worried about Verse being released in his city because he had young daughters and who knew what a monster like Verse could do…

Except that Verse was an offender who stayed in his own age group and was a homosexual abuser…

Fucking morons.

I don’t have an answer for “why”, this happens, but if we aren’t going to treat people who are released from jail as fucking humans, we ought to give them all lifetime sentences, assuming that they will not be rehabilitated no matter what, and will always be “monsters”. It sickens me.

Sam

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/15 "2004-10-06T20:07:12Z")

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> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#):
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> In fact, I expect to see somebody publish a Cannibal’s Cookbook & a bottled Long Pork Sauce just to cater to the US market.
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> For market branding we could entitle the book “To Serve Man”.

[It’s been done.](http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1880448823/wwwlink-software-21/026-8505529-4814002)

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**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/16 "2004-10-06T22:45:25Z")

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> [@GaWd](#):
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> The ridiculousness if the situation came to light for me when they released Carey Verse. Local communities picketed and made the guy’s life hell. He has been treated, was incarcerated for many years and was chemically sterilized. They interviewed some guy who said that he was worried about Verse being released in his city because he had young daughters and who knew what a monster like Verse could do…
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> Except that Verse was an offender who stayed in his own age group and was a homosexual abuser…

I was pissed off at this as well, so pissed in fact that I’ve decided that I’m going to make sure Ignacio De La Fuente (city council president in Oakland and rep for the Fruitale District) never serves another term in office. The asshole was responsible for the closing of a halfway house (as if we have plenty of resources for felons in Oakland) . He was also responsible for the priest running that halfway house being arrested of false “sex charges”. He’s planning on running for Mayor, I plan to actively help his opponent or run against him myself if I have to.

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**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/17 "2004-10-07T03:36:47Z")

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Totally off topic but I was looking for this Ian guy on Google and wandered over to a website about serial killers which has this bit about Henry Lee Lucas:

“Years later, in a drunken binge, Henry stuck a knife in his mother’s back and proceeded to rape her dead corpse.”

Wow, guess they had some real issues in that relationship.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/18 "2004-10-07T07:40:05Z")

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> [@The Long Road](#):
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> Can’t be that hard to provide a [link](http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1130090.html?menu=) to the story.

I just want to say that none of the links work for me. I get the Ananova page, with a menu at the side, but no story of any kind. So obviously it is very, very hard to provide a link for some of us.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/19 "2004-10-07T09:01:23Z")

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[heres a non ananova link. hopfully will work for all](http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3591834)

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-this-is-one-reason-why-vigilantes-are-a-bad-idea/267852/20 "2004-10-07T09:25:02Z")

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That one finally works. Thanks!

Idiots.

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