# And we love you too, Martin Hyde! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 1, 2006, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635 "2006-03-01T17:42:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/61 "2006-03-02T01:02:27Z")
> [@Antinor01](#): > > Oh oh, I wanna join!!! But only if it’s a giant frikkin laser and I can reserve the right to hump it if I choose. Ever play FF7? That’s how fricken giant a laser it is?(If you haven’t…it’s pretty damn big). But, yeah, you can hump the laser. We’re also looking for suggestions for a better name and mission statement. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/62 "2006-03-02T01:11:27Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > Wow a lot of people try to politely tell you that that phrase does not mean what you think it means and you respond with that. I will just have to write you off as another dumb motherfucker right up there with Hyde. Would you lighten and whiten up?!? Christ Almighty (Ash Wednesday, going to hell for that) :eek: , let it go. It wasn’t racist in it’s meaning. You’re ascribing your own prejudice and superiority to the intent. Just because you say it’s offensive doesn’t make it so. I’m sure, of course, none of this matters as your mind is made up on the matter. Why confuse you with truth? And as a degenerate, mentally-ill, semi-washed rightie, where do I fit in the grand scheme of things? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/63 "2006-03-02T01:11:29Z")
> [@davenportavenger](#): > > Wow, that post explains a LOT. > > And I thought the “white” comment was a subtle jab at Martin (aka Marty) owing to the fact that someone like him might see the white race as being superior so he might take it at face value (“yes, I AM a right-thinking white fellow!”) when in fact the poster meant to be derisive. Sort of a layered sarcastic effect. I laughed, anyway. Thank you–you and a few others “got” it. Ah, maybe it’s my cold, but I can’t get too worked up about **Marty**. Or maybe I’m innured of his views, since my inlaws make him look like a knee jerk liberal. Live and let live–it’s a big board, and at least here he gets exposed to alternate views. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/64 "2006-03-02T01:14:24Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > And as a degenerate, mentally-ill, semi-washed rightie, where do I fit in the grand scheme of things? 😕 You go get your own interstate underpass to do unspeakable things at. Jeesh, trying to horn in on us like this and all! I am deeply shocked at your brazenness, sirrah! ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/65 "2006-03-02T01:20:44Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > I don’t consider myself “homosexual” but for many years earlier in my life I had lots of homosexual urges and fantasies. And I even came close to acting on them. However I did not. I also have to say that I had trouble for a long time finding the concept of heterosexual sex particularly appealing to me, but I was able to overcome those qualms. And I think there are many people out there just like me who are able to deny their baser instincts in order to do what is right. I am glad to see Martin was able to overcome his homosexuality. There’s lesson for all you faggots out there, you just need to set you mind to it to overcome your “baser instincts”. You homo’s obviously don’t have enough will-power. > [@Martin Hyde](#): > > Also, god created all people equal but he created men and women differently. Just because they are equally deserving of god’s love does not mean they are equally situated to be higher officers in the church. So ladies don’t worry when you have to stay home having the babies, you are equally deserving of God’s love. You just can’t aspire to be a higher officer of the church, ok girls? ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/66 "2006-03-02T01:24:34Z")
> [@rayh](#): > > So ladies don’t worry when you have to stay home having the babies, you are equally deserving of God’s love. You just can’t aspire to be a higher officer of the church, ok girls? Or join a church that allows women to hold higher offices. You know, that freedom of religion malarky the Constitution mentions. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/67 "2006-03-02T01:35:02Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > Ever play FF7? That’s how fricken giant a laser it is?(If you haven’t…it’s pretty damn big). > > But, yeah, you can hump the laser. > > We’re also looking for suggestions for a better name and mission statement. Society of Criminals and Unrepentant Malefactors (S.C.U.M.) - kinda catchy, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/68 "2006-03-02T01:43:16Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > Thank you–you and a few others “got” it. Problem is, **eleanor** , though (I think) all of us “got” it, and **Larry Mudd** ’s defense was accurate, in the south that phrase has a distinct racist connotation. _shrug_ One of them there cultural differences, y’know? If you consider that part of your audience has that understanding of the phrase, that will explain the flak you’ve been getting. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/69 "2006-03-02T01:44:23Z")
[QUOTE= **Martin Hyde** Also, god created all people equal but he created men and women differently. Just because they are equally deserving of god’s love does not mean they are equally situated to be higher officers in the church[/QUOTE] And my cold induced tolerance just ended. But my rage meter is just plain broken by other threads here in the Pit. I will say this in his “defense”–at least he is open about his bigotry. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/70 "2006-03-02T01:46:54Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Problem is, **eleanor** , though (I think) all of us “got” it, and **Larry Mudd** ’s defense was accurate, in the south that phrase has a distinct racist connotation. _shrug_ One of them there cultural differences, y’know? If you consider that part of your audience has that understanding of the phrase, that will explain the flak you’ve been getting. As the Pit goes, that was fairly minor flak. I’m ok with it–I was somewhat startled by the response and I understand it. I think it’s being misconstrued because while it seem to deify all things and people “white”, it really is derogatory towards the person it is applied to. It is always used (for me) sardonically and pejoratively. Again, YMMV, so it’s not something that will be used commonly by me. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/71 "2006-03-02T01:54:24Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > And as a degenerate, mentally-ill, semi-washed rightie, where do I fit in the grand scheme of things? 😕 Hey, we can always use a whipping boy for when our nefarious plots – _ **PLOTS** _, I said! – are foiled. When you’re not busy with that, we’ll keep you in a corner of the dungeons so you can gibber piteously at any new captives we drag in and throw into the oubliette. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/72 "2006-03-02T02:01:37Z")
> [@Martin](#): > > Degenerates, the mentally ill, the unwashed masses of extreme leftism that are literally a cancer upon mainstream society. . . They are _not_ unwashed…at least I don’t see how he could know that. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/73 "2006-03-02T02:03:26Z")
Some of you are so fixated with **eleanorigby** ’s “that’s white of you” comment that you are missing the very funny line she wrote earlier in the same post: > [@](#): > > The support group for the unwashed was cancelled on account of rain. Well, it’s pretty darn funny to me anyway. Now please carry on with the the **Martin Jekyll** bashing… ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/74 "2006-03-02T02:03:46Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Hey, we can always use a whipping boy for when our nefarious plots – _ **PLOTS** _, I said! – are foiled. > > When you’re not busy with that, we’ll keep you in a corner of the dungeons so you can gibber piteously at any new captives we drag in and throw into the oubliette. And I’ll be happy to outfit you with body lice and scabies. Scurvy can be acquired on alternate Thursdays. STDs are the next level down in the dungeons. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/75 "2006-03-02T02:05:27Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > And as a degenerate, mentally-ill, semi-washed rightie, where do I fit in the grand scheme of things? 😕 You have a niggardly role, son. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/76 "2006-03-02T02:06:27Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > You have a niggardly role, son. I almost tried working that in, but considering the mood of some… ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/77 "2006-03-02T02:07:40Z")
BWAH!!! I’m giddy from laughing (that and the cold medicine) And thanks to **I Love Me** --happy to gladden your heart with a quip or two. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/78 "2006-03-02T02:09:22Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Hey, we can always use a whipping boy for when our nefarious plots – _ **PLOTS** _, I said! – are foiled. > > When you’re not busy with that, we’ll keep you in a corner of the dungeons so you can gibber piteously at any new captives we drag in and throw into the oubliette. Damnit, and here I’ve spent all my time studying the fine art of spoiling **plans!** :smack: Is the corner wired so I can post musings on my various and sundry roomies? And a wet bar. I certainly need a wet bar if in a dungeon. Lace would be nice as well, but I’m open to negotiations. And I’m not sure what the hell an oubliette is, but provide some lube and cactus spikes and I could probably make it work. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/79 "2006-03-02T02:12:27Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Is the corner wired so I can post musings on my various and sundry roomies? Well, it’s wired… but not so much for the internet as electro-convulsive therapy. And really, I’m using “therapy” in the loosest sense of the word, there. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635/80 "2006-03-02T02:16:35Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > He also believes that gays [are mentally ill and incapable of real love.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6979580&postcount=62) > > Yeah, he’s a real peach, that **Martin Hyde**. I knew I remembered him saying something like that. So he’s basically a miserable, emotionless, self-hating closet case? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-love-you-too-martin-hyde/346635.md?page=5)