# And … we’re sheltering in place …

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 4, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944 "2022-09-04T18:18:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/41 "2022-09-07T04:24:07Z")

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One mother and daughter had a weird experience on Sunday morning:

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> Leona Lees was jolted awake Sunday morning to the sound of an emergency alert from RCMP about [several stabbings](http://www.cbc.ca/1.6572464) on the nearby James Smith Cree Nation, located roughly 30 kilometres northeast from her home in Weldon, Sask.
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> Not thinking much of it, she started her day the way she usually does: with a cup of coffee on her front deck.
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> However, shortly after she sat down, the woman saw a dark-coloured SUV zoom by — an unusual sight for a sleepy village of roughly 200 people.
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> “Why is that car going so fast? Give me a break. Slow down!” she remembered thinking.
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> A few minutes later, she said a man walked around the side of her house with his face covered asking for help.
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> “He said, ‘I need somebody to take me to the hospital. My mouth has been hurt — I’ve been stabbed,’” her mother, Doreen Lees, remembered.
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> Leona Lees said she and her mother were prepared to help a man who came to their door claiming to be injured on Sunday morning, but he ran off before they could.
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> When they asked to see the injuries and he refused, Leona said she went to grab her phone, and when she came back, she saw the man running away.
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> At that point, she said she called 911. Within 10 minutes, she said police officers arrived on scene and took a statement.

> **[Weldon, Sask., residents recall strange encounter shortly after stabbing alert...](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6572775)**
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> Leona and Doreen Lees say a man who claims he was injured came to their door in Weldon, Sask., on Sunday morning, shortly after an RCMP alert was issued warning people about a stabbing rampage in the nearby community of James Smith Cree Nation.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/42 "2022-09-07T13:32:11Z")

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Wikipedia article on it:

> **[2022 Saskatchewan stabbings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Saskatchewan_stabbings)**
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> On September 4, 2022, a mass stabbing occurred in 13 locations on the James Smith Cree Nation and in Weldon, Saskatchewan, Canada, in which 12 people died and 18 others were injured. Some of the victims are believed to have been targeted, while others were randomly attacked. It is one of the deadliest massacres in Canadian history.
> Emergency alerts relating to the incidents were issued throughout the province of Saskatchewan and later extended to Manitoba and Alberta. Police quickly identifie...

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/43 "2022-09-07T13:45:08Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Seriously y’all be careful. I worry so.

> [@superwombat](#):
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> Stay safe, Saskadopers.

Thanks, folks. I’m pretty far removed from the area where it happened, but for the report that they were seen on a major artery street that I drive regularly. Nothing further on that report. Manhunt still underway.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/44 "2022-09-07T19:45:36Z")

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No ideas yet on a possible motive? What a terrible attack. They sure did a lot of damage.

Please do stay safe.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/45 "2022-09-07T21:06:20Z")

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Just got a new province-wide alert on my cellphone:

> Individual reported to be armed with a knife is travelling in a 2008 White Chevrolet Avalanche, Sask licence 953 LPL that was reported stolen out of Wakaw around 2:10 pm today. Last seen travelling in Wakaw on Cemetery Road. Their direction of travel is unknown. Unknown persons involved. We believe this may be related to the Melfort dangerous person alert issued Sunday September 4.

Melfort is the RCMP detachment which issued the first alert about the James Smith / Weldon stabbings.

Wakaw is not that far from the James Smith / Weldon; I’m thinking that the report of him being seen in Regina on Sunday was a false sighting. Would be odd for him to come this far south, and then go back north afterwards.

> **[Wakaw](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakaw)**
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> Wakaw, Saskatchewan, is a town 90 kilometres (56 mi) northeast of Saskatoon and 66 kilometres (41 mi) south of Prince Albert. It is about halfway between the two cities and is served by Highway 2, Highway 41, and Highway 312. Wakaw is in hilly partially forested country east of the South Saskatchewan River. The area is part of the aspen parkland biome.
> Wakaw is a Cree word meaning "crooked". The name was taken from nearby Wakaw Lake and applied to the town.
> The area was peopled primarily by ...

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/46 "2022-09-07T21:42:21Z")

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My grandfather had a close friend from this reserve, and it seems pretty clear from the names of the victims that this is that friend’s family. My grandfather died ten years ago, and his friend 30 years ago, so there’s no connection, but it’s still haunting.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/47 "2022-09-07T21:54:16Z")

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Saskatchewan: one real big small town.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/48 "2022-09-07T22:31:51Z")

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[They got him](https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/09/07/canadian-police-arrest-2nd-suspect-in-stabbing-rampage/).

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/49 "2022-09-07T22:35:55Z")

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That woman appears to have dodged a not-a bullet.

I just heard on NBC News that the other suspect is in custody.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/50 "2022-09-07T22:37:26Z")

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Such good news. I’m glad this is over for our Saskatchewan neighbors to the north. What a horrible ordeal.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/51 "2022-09-07T23:00:49Z")

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Yes, this is good news.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/52 "2022-09-08T01:02:46Z")

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rumours circulating that he is dead:

> **[Sources report stabbing suspect, Myles Sanderson, is dead](https://panow.com/2022/09/07/sources-report-stabbing-suspect-myles-sanderson-is-dead/)**
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> There are reports Myles Sanderson is dead.Law enforcement sources told paNOW the stabbing suspect may have ove...

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/53 "2022-09-08T01:09:28Z")

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I’m glad he’s no longer a threat, at least.

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He’s definitely dead. Some unconfirmed sources are saying it was self-inflicted. Assistant Commissioner for the RCMP refused to comment, pending autopsy, saying only that they gave him immediate first aid treatment on the scene, like CPR, and he was taken by ambulance to hospital in Saskatoon, where he was pronounced dead.

> **[Subject of Sask. manhunt dead after going into 'medical distress' following...](https://regina.ctvnews.ca/subject-of-sask-manhunt-dead-from-self-inflicted-injuries-1.6058299)**
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> The prime suspect in a mass stabbing incident in Saskatchewan was taken into custody Wednesday afternoon. He subsequently went into medical distress and was later pronounced dead in hospital, according to police.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/55 "2022-09-08T04:41:49Z")

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Was up in Prince Albert for work today and on the way home drove right past the final scene on Highway 11, about halfway between Rosthern and Hague. Was dark, so nothing to see other than a lot of blue and red flashing lights as we got detoured around the scene on gravel sideroads. That can absolutely be my closest ever connection to a mass murder, thank you very much.

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> He’s definitely dead. Some unconfirmed sources are saying it was self-inflicted.

Not that I’m doubting it, but it’s curious how someone just placed into custody (almost certainly handcuffed) could manage to off himself. I wonder if he inflicted injuries on himself prior to being captured, or if it was somehow related to the circumstances of his apprehension, which AIUI included forcing his vehicle off the road into a ditch at high speed.

So the story continues to be interesting, but thankfully the scary part is over. The RCMP seems to have done a good job.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/57 "2022-09-08T09:36:46Z")

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The arrest …

Doesn’t help answer the question about cause of death, but it’s nice to see the capture of a dangerous psychopath.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/vaEy5dt.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/vaEy5dt.jpg)

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-we-re-sheltering-in-place/970944/58 "2022-09-08T11:45:29Z")

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I just assumed it meant he shot (or probably stabbed) himself before he was arrested. Bad enough to be fatal, but not so bad that he couldn’t be arrested/cuffed. The above article mentions this was a fairly high speed chase and I thought it said the airbags went off, but I’m not seeing that now. In any case, I’m wondering if he hit something when they ‘directed’ him into the ditch and by “self inflicted injuries” they mean hitting a tree or something.  
My guess is the former, that he stabbed/shot himself before being arrested.

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Take care, **NoPi** , and all the good people of Saskatchewan !

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I thought it said the airbags went off, but I’m not seeing that now.

Definitely heard a CBC reporter say last night that the airbags in the Avalanche were deployed, and a few video clips I’ve seen you can make out what looks like airbags as well.

Based on the photos in the news and where I got detoured last night, I’d say it happened somewhere right around here:

https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=%213m2%212sen%214v0%216m8%211m7%211sFQHndW2tLZ9eKEqT3hgi_Q%212m2%211d52.5691675%212d-106.3761146%213f323.34%214f7.922%215f0.75

Just some smallish willow or poplar bushes between the highway and the tracks. Not sure what he would have hit hard enough to trigger airbags, but it was apparently pretty high speed so it needn’t take much.

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